Another breastfeeding one

I'm quite happy with my priorities and have no intention of continuing any cycles thanks, (what an unpleasant thing to say btw) I won't be responding to you any further.

Perhaps then, you need to support more people, because trans men and non-binary people exist, whether you like it or not. Which is apparent, you don’t.

Those ‘people’ don’t have the issue. You do.

Minority groups literally don’t care whether you or I call ourselves mother, they just don’t want to be called it themselves. Can you honestly not see that?

The focus is breastfeeding and lactation support, hence the name. Support for ALL.
It was a reminder that the group uses inclusive language, nothing more, nothing less.

I've never met a breastfeeding mother in need of genuine support who was even thinking about her identity - she's trying to successfully feed her baby! This is laughable.

This is not the gotcha you seem to think it is given that I knew all the mums in my bf group and none identified as anything other than women. Therefore what I said was the appropriate term for that particular group.

You seem to be deliberately missing the point that there's an expectation that you adjust language to convey respect depending on the demographic of the group you're in at the time.

So go and join another group.

although good luck, most people trained in breastfeeding support know how important it is to be inclusive.

No she'd be asked to edit her post for gender neutral terms.

I'm not required to be professional on Mumsnet babe!

Wrong again. She quite clearly knew those other mums identified as that.

They don't get booted for starting a post with Hey mamas their post would be declined and asked for gender neutral language to be used. For mastitis though they should go to the admin inbox not the group.

Well you don't have to continue the cycle, it's not too late to reasses your own priorities.

No. Not at all.
People who don’t want to be in a group where others talk about women breastfeeding can be in a group that talks about people or men chest feeding- whatever language they prefer.

I want to be in a group where the focus is on breastfeeding and supporting women and babies who are breastfeeding, not a group where the focus is on policing language.

That’s a very narrow minded view. There’s a reason breastfeeding supporters undergo constant training… you don’t know everything just because you’ve breastfed for several years.

This group and its constantly changing and expanding team of volunteers have helped thousands of people, online and in the community. The group is run as a safe space but heavily moderated to provide accurate and safe support.

There’s no “make sure you drink this lactation tea”, “eat oats”, “don’t feed for 5 hours so they drink loads” which you get in other unmoderated groups. This group protects and supports mothers, women, parents and people, however they identify. There is a time and place for warm community feeling with lots of chatting about life, but a safe and inclusive space for protecting people’s feeding preferences isn’t it.

🤣🤣 can't hack the responses.

I would imagine that these are the exact type of harmful and personally attacking posts that admins are keen to avoid in what's supposed to be a safe group setting.

You have no idea what my mother or upbringing was like so I wouldn't place a bet on where her priorities were if I were you.

Would depend on how much breast tissue was removed, how many milk ducts they have still, if they are willing to use a supplementing nursing system etc and then we'd discuss seeing an IBCLC which we happen to have in the group too.

You don't come across as professional at all.

Poor breastfeeding women, delirious with sleep deprivation and worried about latching or mastitis and getting booted out of the group for typing ‘hey mamas’ when they ask for help.

Might be worth mentioning that bits were left out of the screenshot as well saying that you won’t be banned for starting the post with such

but If you can’t be respectful that the group l is inclusive, maybe you should just F off instead

Ooh, interesting. So when breast tissue is removed and theres no lactation but they may wish to chestfeed and need support, where should they go?

Do you not think that's very isolating for them though? For me the first place I ventured out to was a bf group and its the only reason why I gained confidence actually feeding in public in front of people. That could be much more difficult for a transman or non binary person so obviously some may not feel able to do that, but for others that could be a massive help along their journey - never mind the amount I learnt just from listening to other bf mums who were at different stages from me. In fact being in that group was the only reason I bf for longer because I'd never seen or known anyone to bf let alone past the 6 month mark. Why should anyone miss out on that just because they don't identify as female?