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MisssCackle · 2025-09-16T18:04:59+00:00

Couldn’t see a thread on this. In the latest of Breastfeeding batshittery..‘Breastfeeding and Lactation Support UK’ have today posted this. I am so angered by it. The UK breastfeeding rates are amongst some of the lowest globally. We should be empowering women, not erasing them. Encouraging them to leave if they disagree?? They should be ashamed.

Honish · 16/09/2025 22:48

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:40

Creepy? For being inclusive - ok

Yes creepy, you seem to have built an online group that masquerades as a support group for breastfeeding mothers but really is a place for inserting biological males in women's breastfeeding experiences as some kind of perverse fetish. Its utterly abhorrent and predatory.

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MisssCackle · 16/09/2025 22:47

Lavender14 · 16/09/2025 22:44

Is it really so hard to believe that not all women think or speak the same as you?

Surely anyone would become defensive when people are talking about damaging their career?

At what point did we as a society completely lose the ability to discuss things respectfully and disagree respectfully. This is exactly why it's impossible to have a genuine debate or discussion around this issue or any other issue that borders into the existence of trans or non binary people. People care way too much about being 'right' or the most 'virtuous' and it just shuts down what should be a fair discussion about how things can be done to include everyone in a practical way.

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Can you look at my posts and then ‘Becs’ and tell me which were sensible? I don’t recall sticking my finger up to anyone. (Still don’t believe it is her).

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STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:47

I'm comparing transphobia and racism.

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:46

Yes one would be racism and the other would be transphobic. Both still still not okay though.

Waitwhat23 · 16/09/2025 22:45

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:40

They agree to the group rules when they join, they are then tagged in them as well they are well aware of the rules and any post that goes against the rules are decline otherwise what would be the point in having rules. Would your energy be the same if someone posted using racist language would you be okay with that being posted in the group?

....you do see tbe difference between someone saying 'hey mamas' and someone using racist language, right?

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:45

I'm not registered with the NMC hahaha 😂

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MisssCackle · 16/09/2025 22:44

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:40

They agree to the group rules when they join, they are then tagged in them as well they are well aware of the rules and any post that goes against the rules are decline otherwise what would be the point in having rules. Would your energy be the same if someone posted using racist language would you be okay with that being posted in the group?

Please tell me you are not comparing saying ‘mamas’ in a breastfeeding group to racism….

I’m getting off this crazy train 👋🏻

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Namelessnelly · 16/09/2025 22:44

Deadlyc0rpse · 16/09/2025 22:42

Show me where the original post specifically mentions males or men?
Imagine being so close minded that when you see the word "trans" or "inclusivity" your mind automatically jumps to men or male presenting people.
AFAB (assigned female at birth) Non binary people are also transgender and deserve inclusive language and to feel comfortable within a social space. AFAB non binary people also breastfeed and deserve support.

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Ummm. Chestfeed please!, why are you being so transphobic!!!!

Lavender14 · 16/09/2025 22:44

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Is it really so hard to believe that not all women think or speak the same as you?

Surely anyone would become defensive when people are talking about damaging their career?

At what point did we as a society completely lose the ability to discuss things respectfully and disagree respectfully. This is exactly why it's impossible to have a genuine debate or discussion around this issue or any other issue that borders into the existence of trans or non binary people. People care way too much about being 'right' or the most 'virtuous' and it just shuts down what should be a fair discussion about how things can be done to include everyone in a practical way.

Namelessnelly · 16/09/2025 22:43

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:40

They agree to the group rules when they join, they are then tagged in them as well they are well aware of the rules and any post that goes against the rules are decline otherwise what would be the point in having rules. Would your energy be the same if someone posted using racist language would you be okay with that being posted in the group?

To be fair, some of the language you have used tonight could be seen to be akin to racism, you’ve been quite offensive to trans folx and I do think you should maybe educate yourself more if you wish to truly support the vulnerable members of your group.

FattyMcFattyArse · 16/09/2025 22:43

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 21:21

I'm not required to be professional on Mumsnet babe!

I think you actually are. You have already publicly outed yourself as Rebecca O'Connor, identifiable on the NMC register of midwives which is available online. Your professional conduct is in the public domain here and you can be reported to your regulator if there is a breach.

You may want to revisit some of your comments on this post.

Deadlyc0rpse · 16/09/2025 22:43

MisssCackle · 16/09/2025 19:46

And she’s a student midwife….

And a fucking amazing one xoxo

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:42

So now you're saying gender doesn't exist? Weird take.

Deadlyc0rpse · 16/09/2025 22:42

KilkennyCats · 16/09/2025 19:44

Why on earth would any males need “including” in a breastfeeding support group?
Such utter tripe.
“The validity of people’s existence” !!
What the actual fuck?

Show me where the original post specifically mentions males or men?
Imagine being so close minded that when you see the word "trans" or "inclusivity" your mind automatically jumps to men or male presenting people.
AFAB (assigned female at birth) Non binary people are also transgender and deserve inclusive language and to feel comfortable within a social space. AFAB non binary people also breastfeed and deserve support.

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:41

No.

Honish · 16/09/2025 22:40

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:40

They agree to the group rules when they join, they are then tagged in them as well they are well aware of the rules and any post that goes against the rules are decline otherwise what would be the point in having rules. Would your energy be the same if someone posted using racist language would you be okay with that being posted in the group?

Race is something that actually exists though.

AnneLovesGilbert · 16/09/2025 22:40

Namelessnelly · 16/09/2025 22:38

I’m just here to educate the no doubt well meaning folx who founded this group. They seem very uneducated in how to support trans identifying folx.

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This is a pisstake yes?

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:40

Creepy? For being inclusive - ok

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:40

They agree to the group rules when they join, they are then tagged in them as well they are well aware of the rules and any post that goes against the rules are decline otherwise what would be the point in having rules. Would your energy be the same if someone posted using racist language would you be okay with that being posted in the group?

CornishMaid93 · 16/09/2025 22:39

Waitwhat23 · 16/09/2025 22:35

Did a bit of a double take at this. A woman, needing support and advice, feeling vulnerable and perhaps desperate (I remember the lonely nights breastfeeding, needing advice and feeling completely alone in the small hours) would have her post declined for not using ideological language? You do have to wonder how many women would simply self exclude with that kind of reception.

But as long as you feel virtuous, right?

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Except that’s not what happens. They say “oh heck, my bad”, edit the post to change “ladies” to “everyone” and repost. It’s really not a big deal and takes minutes at most.

MyAcornWood · 16/09/2025 22:39

Waitwhat23 · 16/09/2025 22:35

Did a bit of a double take at this. A woman, needing support and advice, feeling vulnerable and perhaps desperate (I remember the lonely nights breastfeeding, needing advice and feeling completely alone in the small hours) would have her post declined for not using ideological language? You do have to wonder how many women would simply self exclude with that kind of reception.

But as long as you feel virtuous, right?

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Quite. To be fair, I just had a look at that group, out of interest, and they’ve got some quite exacting standards for posts and discussion in their list of rules. Some make sense and would certainly help foster a supportive environment, some… do not.

Namelessnelly · 16/09/2025 22:38

LouiseSarah27 · 16/09/2025 22:33

how are you not bored yet?

I’m just here to educate the no doubt well meaning folx who founded this group. They seem very uneducated in how to support trans identifying folx.

Honish · 16/09/2025 22:36

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:34

Midwives can be male, health visitors can be male, gp's can be male ALL of which can and often do give breastfeeding/chestfeeding/lactation support and help. Why does someone have to be female to provide support?

So you are in fact male then?

Namelessnelly · 16/09/2025 22:36

STMWBec · 16/09/2025 22:32

Yet trans women often use the term cis women 🤦🏼‍♀️

No. No they don’t. Only those pretending to be trans do so,and those well meaning folx such as yourself. I mean, how would you like it if every day you were reminded you would never be a woman and had to be referred as a transwoman, whilst those who were not trans got to be “cis” women. Do you not see how harmful that would be, please, just use “woman” it will include all those who identify as women and prevent harm to vulnerable trans folx.

Honish · 16/09/2025 22:35

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