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“Trans rights” on R4 now, Universities Challenged

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Davros · 16/09/2025 09:36

Ongoing series covering this today. Kathleen Stock featured now

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user9637 · 16/09/2025 10:28

Bluebootsgreenboots · 16/09/2025 09:52

Plus lots of we’re the poor victims here but without any actual evidence
Which is why debate is so important, so that Q can be asked. Where is your evidence?

Agree. When kids are never taught the skills of debate they resort to violence. We need to bring back debate as a priority.

Arguing for the view opposite of your own can be particularly enlightening.

terryleather · 16/09/2025 10:14

Declaring a “non-binary” identity is a power play and a means to launder your privilege - it’s almost never a surprise as to who makes this type of identity claim and the woman making it in this programme seems to fit the bill perfectly.

Bluebootsgreenboots · 16/09/2025 10:02

Interesting to hear the parallel ‘debate’ re Gaza. The terrible examples that tthe Jewish student gave, of swastikas scratched in to cars, and the damage to the Jewish centre. But that’s not free speech - that’s vandalism.

nauticant · 16/09/2025 10:02

It will be: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002jf27

TranscendentTiger · 16/09/2025 10:00

I hope this will be on BBC sounds to catch up later. I can't listen now unfortunately

nauticant · 16/09/2025 09:58

But as the non-binary journalist pointed out, anything that debates someone's right to exist cannot be permitted. That at university everyone has the right not to hear anything that offends them.

zanahoria · 16/09/2025 09:58

I never understand this business of announcing a "non binary" special status to the world. I certainly no not think it has the impact they believe it will, mostly it will be met with eye rolls.

Bluebootsgreenboots · 16/09/2025 09:52

Plus lots of we’re the poor victims here but without any actual evidence
Which is why debate is so important, so that Q can be asked. Where is your evidence?

Davros · 16/09/2025 09:51

The NB “journalist” is making all sorts of silly claims imo

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DrBlackbird · 16/09/2025 09:50

nauticant · 16/09/2025 09:48

The non-binary journalist sounds pretty intolerant to me. Basically that anything she or her fellows feel they don't like, well, it cannot be permitted.

Alice Sullivan was a welcome contrast.

Plus lots of we’re the poor victims here but without any actual evidence.

Bluebootsgreenboots · 16/09/2025 09:50

Also now on to Uni of Leeds - Connie Shaw’s uni.

Bluebootsgreenboots · 16/09/2025 09:48

So far, so fair I think. A neat summary of the GC standpoint (Sex is binary and matters sometimes) and opposing viewpoint (TWAW and debating this is debating someone’s right to exist).
Anyone listening is free to process the robustness of both of those claims.
ET adjust spelling
Now on to snowflakes - let’s see what comes up

nauticant · 16/09/2025 09:48

The non-binary journalist sounds pretty intolerant to me. Basically that anything she or her fellows feel they don't like, well, it cannot be permitted.

Alice Sullivan was a welcome contrast.

deadpan · 16/09/2025 09:41

Thanks I'll have a look for that!