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JKR accused of 'quoting hitler'

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Dominoodles · 15/09/2025 22:38

Within the context of condemning political violence following the murder of Charlie Kirk, she quoted on X a line from Mein Kampf where Hitler talked about how he utilised political violence for his own gain. This was a clear statement in how allowing for political violence against one's rivals can lead to that in power manipulating things in order to harm others.

Unfortunately, articles are springing up across the internet shaming JKR for quoting or referring to this text at all, with many condemning her for 'nazi' views and accusing her of being far right.

(Personally I love JK, and it is such a shame that every single thing she says is twisted to mean the opposite of what she's actually saying!)

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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 23:12

teawamutu · 20/09/2025 22:48

Every allegation is an admission, they say.

Do you even understand what you just wrote? You just turned all of what you alleged on yourself.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 23:06

greengagesummers · 20/09/2025 22:44

Eh? Obviously the entire comparison only works in the first place if she condemns Hitler? Otherwise what would be the point of it?

You really do have some serious comprehension issues; and the silly crack about dementia just makes you look even more of a fool, my dear. Go back to school and do some work in your English lessons.

The comparison works either way, after all JKR is of the group who think wokeness is fascism and doesn’t shy away from saying it
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-wokeness-really-is-like-fascism/

So she could equally be inciting violence in doublespeak

Let’s not forget she was happy to cash in on racist stereotypes of Jews:

In JKR’s first Harry Potter book (c)1997, Harry discovers that he has inherited a fortune. The keepers of this fortune are a race of bankers-Goblins. Goblins have hook noses, olive skin, bald heads, and small, beady eyes. They are exceptionally intelligent but obsessed with gold and ownership. They are a persecuted minority with a history of rebellions. There are many suggestions throughout the series that goblins are meant to be subservient and their race has some inherent violence that needs to be kept at bay. They speak a language called “Gobbledegook.”

This did not, and still does not sit well with many of us. The goblins rendered for the “Harry Potter” movies were very shockingly like anti-Semitic cartoons.

Every film, every reprint, means children all over the world are even today being taught a caricature of a Jew that is in far more minds than Shakespeare’s Shylock ever was.

AnSolas · 20/09/2025 23:03

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 22:44

I’m on page 1 of the thread.
You are the one who is a) late and b) not read the thread.

You are late to the "everybody I dont agree with is Hitler party".
Your waa waa waa points are so old and recycled off Twitter from when it was still Twitter.

teawamutu · 20/09/2025 22:48

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 22:47

I can’t decide which chat AI you used to write that. Probably one of those free ones.

Every allegation is an admission, they say.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 22:47

teawamutu · 20/09/2025 22:43

I genuinely can't decide whether you're:

  • so high on your own virtue you actually can't conceive of being wrong
  • too dim to read and process anything more complex than a Bluesky post
  • so brainwashed (what there was of it) that you won't engage with heretical material first hand.

Don't much care which, and I suspect it's past your bedtime anyway. Go well (emphasis on first word).

I can’t decide which chat AI you used to write that. Probably one of those free ones.

greengagesummers · 20/09/2025 22:44

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 22:36

Nope. She wasn’t condemning Hitler. She was condemning the “many who scream fascist at opponents”

Hitler is dead so he isn’t doing any present tense screaming….😱 he hugged and drank and smoked with other fascists so he would not think of a fascist as an opponent.

Odd, how in 5 days you seem to have forgotten you said that she was making a comparison of her opponents to Hitler…

greengagesummers · 15/09/2025 22:46
Wasn’t she actually using the quote to suggest that anyone advocating violence is similar to Hitler?

Do your loved ones also notice you forgetting your own opinions and inexplicably arguing the opposite of what you said earlier?

https://www.dementia.co.uk/dementia-tests/do-at-home-dementia-test

Eh? Obviously the entire comparison only works in the first place if she condemns Hitler? Otherwise what would be the point of it?

You really do have some serious comprehension issues; and the silly crack about dementia just makes you look even more of a fool, my dear. Go back to school and do some work in your English lessons.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 22:44

AnSolas · 20/09/2025 22:30

You are a little late to the party and

a) have not read the thread or

b) have not understood what was discussed

I’m on page 1 of the thread.
You are the one who is a) late and b) not read the thread.

teawamutu · 20/09/2025 22:43

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 22:36

Nope. She wasn’t condemning Hitler. She was condemning the “many who scream fascist at opponents”

Hitler is dead so he isn’t doing any present tense screaming….😱 he hugged and drank and smoked with other fascists so he would not think of a fascist as an opponent.

Odd, how in 5 days you seem to have forgotten you said that she was making a comparison of her opponents to Hitler…

greengagesummers · 15/09/2025 22:46
Wasn’t she actually using the quote to suggest that anyone advocating violence is similar to Hitler?

Do your loved ones also notice you forgetting your own opinions and inexplicably arguing the opposite of what you said earlier?

https://www.dementia.co.uk/dementia-tests/do-at-home-dementia-test

I genuinely can't decide whether you're:

  • so high on your own virtue you actually can't conceive of being wrong
  • too dim to read and process anything more complex than a Bluesky post
  • so brainwashed (what there was of it) that you won't engage with heretical material first hand.

Don't much care which, and I suspect it's past your bedtime anyway. Go well (emphasis on first word).

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 22:43

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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 22:38

Namelessnelly · 20/09/2025 22:36

So if no one can quote hitler, how can anyone criticise his ideas and words?

Was JKR criticising Hitler? No

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/09/2025 22:37

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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 22:36

greengagesummers · 20/09/2025 22:24

Don’t be silly. The entire force of the message was to condemn Hitler! There really are some serious reading comprehension issues here.

Nope. She wasn’t condemning Hitler. She was condemning the “many who scream fascist at opponents”

Hitler is dead so he isn’t doing any present tense screaming….😱 he hugged and drank and smoked with other fascists so he would not think of a fascist as an opponent.

Odd, how in 5 days you seem to have forgotten you said that she was making a comparison of her opponents to Hitler…

greengagesummers · 15/09/2025 22:46
Wasn’t she actually using the quote to suggest that anyone advocating violence is similar to Hitler?

Do your loved ones also notice you forgetting your own opinions and inexplicably arguing the opposite of what you said earlier?

https://www.dementia.co.uk/dementia-tests/do-at-home-dementia-test

Namelessnelly · 20/09/2025 22:36

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 21:46

I see it as accurate. She quoted Hitler all properly in quotes and didn’t even forget to cite Mein Kampf as the Hitler authored source either.

It’s not an accusation so much as the truth.

JKR quoted Hitler.

The rest is just stans who think quoting Hitler is acceptable because it’s JKR!

So if no one can quote hitler, how can anyone criticise his ideas and words?

AnSolas · 20/09/2025 22:30

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 21:46

I see it as accurate. She quoted Hitler all properly in quotes and didn’t even forget to cite Mein Kampf as the Hitler authored source either.

It’s not an accusation so much as the truth.

JKR quoted Hitler.

The rest is just stans who think quoting Hitler is acceptable because it’s JKR!

You are a little late to the party and

a) have not read the thread or

b) have not understood what was discussed

greengagesummers · 20/09/2025 22:24

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 22:23

Did JKR quote Hitler? Yes
Was it in the context of condemning Hitler or Nazis? No

Don’t be silly. The entire force of the message was to condemn Hitler! There really are some serious reading comprehension issues here.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 22:23

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/09/2025 22:05

Quoting someone doesn't mean you agree with them FFS.

Did JKR quote Hitler? Yes
Was it in the context of condemning Hitler or Nazis? No

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/09/2025 22:05

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 21:46

I see it as accurate. She quoted Hitler all properly in quotes and didn’t even forget to cite Mein Kampf as the Hitler authored source either.

It’s not an accusation so much as the truth.

JKR quoted Hitler.

The rest is just stans who think quoting Hitler is acceptable because it’s JKR!

Quoting someone doesn't mean you agree with them FFS.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/09/2025 21:46

logiccalls · 19/09/2025 11:32

Admittedly not read the thread (preferring the other thread about all the things JKR must have been guilty of) but it seems half hearted to stop at accusing her of "quoting" Hitler, when with a little extra effort they could accuse her of "being" a reincarnated Hitler.

I see it as accurate. She quoted Hitler all properly in quotes and didn’t even forget to cite Mein Kampf as the Hitler authored source either.

It’s not an accusation so much as the truth.

JKR quoted Hitler.

The rest is just stans who think quoting Hitler is acceptable because it’s JKR!

MarieDeGournay · 20/09/2025 10:28

RedToothBrush · 17/09/2025 14:49

Phrases that should be banned.

'breaks silence' or 'break silence'

Its in EVERY OTHER newspaper headline atm. Its total bollocks and means fucking nothing.

Someone could be happily rabbiting on about something and in no way silent, but just doesn't mention a particular subject in the a particular way.

Anyone who uses it should be cancelled regardless of their political alignment, just cos they are lazy, illiterate click baiters.

I have spoken. I should be law on this.

Any disagreement?

Nope thought not. Lets action this.

Also off-topic, sorry, but I can't resist adding my pet hate:
'Tributes are being paid today to X...'
😬
I was caught out once when they said 'Tributes are being paid today to X...' and I thought Oh no, that's sad, so young, so talented... but in fact 'tributes were being paid' because she had left her current position to move on to another🙄

So it's not even an unambiguous cliché.

GiraffesAtThePark · 19/09/2025 20:50

So Hitler’s writings need to be held in some kind of reverence? We can’t just quote them to show fascism for what it is?

Valeriekat · 19/09/2025 15:46

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 16/09/2025 01:28

JKR has done a Holocaust minimisation by quoting Mein Kampf by Hitler just to tweet a basic moral comment that murder is wrong no matter how awful you may think a person’s opinions are.

This is categorically antisemitic.

Keep in mind, Mein Kampf (My Battle) isn’t wholly a memoir. The part she quoted, he wasn’t writing about how he used political violence for his own gain, he was writing his plan for success.- “'The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence."

Chillingly, Hitler defined success as a Germany rid of Jews (Judenrein), because he thought Jews were subhumans.

She has literally compared the murderer of a minor political activist to Hitler himself, and the plan for this murder to Hilter’s plan for the genocide of millions of Jewish people. Both plans ‘succeeded.’

I should not need to say that this is Holocaust minimisation and JKR should receive a lot of flak for this.

The memory of the Holocaust isn’t to be appropriated like that to shock jock a public controversy so you get those tons of views and upvotes on X (which can be monetised - not that she needs more money).

Yes JKR, murder is wrong. Try and post that without disrespecting the Holocaust. If you really feel a need to mention ‘fascism’ you can also do that without quoting Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf!!

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Are you OK?

logiccalls · 19/09/2025 11:32

Sazzasez · 18/09/2025 21:22

IIRC someone at a Let Women Speak event a while ago referenced the concept of The Big Lie: the idea that if you repeat a big enough falsehood often enough it becomes unchallengeable (which I hesitate to explain as that apparently makes me literally Goebbels, & in favour of murdering all my children whose names all began with H when the jig was finally up) & the TRAs were all “Posie Parker endorses Goebbels”.

Admittedly not read the thread (preferring the other thread about all the things JKR must have been guilty of) but it seems half hearted to stop at accusing her of "quoting" Hitler, when with a little extra effort they could accuse her of "being" a reincarnated Hitler.

Sazzasez · 18/09/2025 21:22

IIRC someone at a Let Women Speak event a while ago referenced the concept of The Big Lie: the idea that if you repeat a big enough falsehood often enough it becomes unchallengeable (which I hesitate to explain as that apparently makes me literally Goebbels, & in favour of murdering all my children whose names all began with H when the jig was finally up) & the TRAs were all “Posie Parker endorses Goebbels”.

Namitynamename · 17/09/2025 21:39

RedToothBrush · 17/09/2025 14:49

Phrases that should be banned.

'breaks silence' or 'break silence'

Its in EVERY OTHER newspaper headline atm. Its total bollocks and means fucking nothing.

Someone could be happily rabbiting on about something and in no way silent, but just doesn't mention a particular subject in the a particular way.

Anyone who uses it should be cancelled regardless of their political alignment, just cos they are lazy, illiterate click baiters.

I have spoken. I should be law on this.

Any disagreement?

Nope thought not. Lets action this.

I would support a party with that in their manifesto!
Can I also add the phrase "performative". It has a general meaning but increasingly just seems to be a way of casting aspersions on people going around their daily lives in public. It's quite a narcissistic way of viewing the world.Particularly "performative parenting" and "performative reading". Nothing to do with KKR. Just something I needed to say.

SinnerBoy · 17/09/2025 16:27

Yes, it means to finally answer, after a long period of not doing so, not "Responded after yesterday's incident."