Charlie Kirk assassin was living with trans roommate

Some strong Trump supporters view mainstream Republicans as being on the Left. (That's not a comment on where TR might lie on a Left-Right spectrum.)

I'll wait till the evidence comes out at trial. If it shows TR was decidedly Left wing that would be no skin off my nose.

Ya boi Kneon talks about the feds now taking a hard look at online extremism, specifically the crazies who gather on Discord, Reddit and Twitch:

Well there is also information about how his parents were strong Trump supporters and how he argued with them and that his parents said his views had become increasingly left wing/ liberal/ woke.

But that is of course just his parents opinion

Also, it's worth noting that such a straightforward hate motivation doesn't require TR to have any affiliation to Left or Right.

Actually it's a lot simpler than that.
He strongly disagreed with CK's views, or what he believed were CK's view particularly on homosexuality and trans. Issues.
He believed that CK was hateful and spread a message of hate.
He stated "I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out. "
He also stated stated, ‘I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I’m going to take it.’

His motives seem pretty clear to me.

He might even have been drinking coffee!

Report in Mail today about why Twiggs was kicked out his family home.

Apparently he was drinking and taking drugs (remember Mormons don't drink).

So potentially this suggests drug use as a possibility.

Baby blue and weird pink, I thought MN had been hacked by tra.

I think there's been an update and now my screen has different features. Either that or it's the Mandela Effect.

I dunno Sinner. There must be a reason why 'First against the wall, come the revolution' is a left wing trope.

Eta I don't know why MN deemed that worth repeating and has anyone else's screens just changed colour or is it just my device.

I dunno Sinner. There must be a reason why 'First against the wall, come the revolution' is a left wing trope.

Also worth wondering when was the last time college Republicans tried to get a speaker cancelled, never mind succeeded. You'd probably have to go back 20+ years to the immediate post-9/11 period.

Possibly, but you may also be out of date on what young, left leaning people believe. The US Fire college free speech rankings found that - while young Democrats might be less likely than young Republicans to say that using violence to stop a speaker might be acceptable - we’re looking at around 25%.

Frighteningly, ‘haven’t thought much about this’ scores at 40% think violence is acceptable.

Nadia Whittome and Loyd Russell Moyle actually literally shared a platform outside Parliament with convicted torturer and attempted murderer TRA Alan “Sarah Jane” Baker, to a backdrop of a crowd shouting “fuck Keir Starmer”.

I agree, I just thought it was interesting.

Incredibly depressing thread. 😔

ConcernedFarther · 15/09/2025 16:24

I think it's so funny how the left advocate for society without guns, then when they lose the argument around extreme ideologies and socialist/ communist views they're the first to pick one up, their last resort is to shut down the conversation by pulling a trigger, it's always the left who turn out the most aggressive.

This is exactly the sort of wildly inaccurate, counter factual drivel seen in the Daily Mail comments.

Let's not forget that Prevent was absolutely useless with what happened in Southport, and the fact that they couldn't label the killer as either Islamist or far-right, so didn't bother.

We're seeing (like with Kirk's killer) boys who have spent so much time online that their politics is all over the place, but clearly influenced by the violent rhetoric (from groups like TRAs) that certain political wings refuse to denounce.

Possibly related to all of this is the row surrounding Hasan Piker. He might be the no.1 streamer from the progressive Left in the world. He streams on the Twitch platform and pulls in a few million dollars a year, enough to have a private jet and mansions lifestyle.

One problem with Piker is he has a habit of calling for the murder of those having a political alignment opposed of his own, and because the CEO of Twitch likes his output, he's been doing this with impunity for years:

https://x.com/Osint613/status/1967179980904829031

Piker was about to have a debate with Charlie Kirk and seemingly in a spell of self-preservation awareness, has spoken of his shock at Kirk's murder.

Somebody, I forget who, mentioned in a podcast the other day about far left terrorism in the States in the 1970s, which actually was a serious problem. But there's quite a list of Weather Underground leaders who, once they'd served their prison sentence, went on to get teaching jobs at elite universities - Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Kathy Boudin and others. It's basically impossible to imagine a right wing terrorist emerging from prison and becoming a law professor.

The same asymmetry works here too. I know I could bore for Britain on this, but... Nigel Farage, whatever you think of him, has denounced Tommy Robinson for years, but people still talk as if they're best mates. Meanwhile any number of Labour MPs and union leaders will speak on SWP platforms and they're never pulled up on it. Not to mention politicians hanging around TRA events with very violent language. I feel that the centre left indulges the far left because their self-image says that extremism and political violence is something the other tribe do.

This article is depressing

https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/09/18/why-the-oxford-unions-charlie-kirk-scandal-matters/

I think George Abaraonye's SM comments were atrocious. Especially considering he'd actually met Charlie Kirk. The behaviour described in the article is almost more worrying. I suspect it's a little one sided, Abaraonye says he has received racist abuse, but there should be real consequences for threats of violence regardless of whether the perpetrator would consider themselves left or right wing.

And while I'm dreaming I'll have some Dorset apple cake. I realise consequences are restricted to those who believe sex is real and that sometimes it matters.

I’ve actually done Prevent training myself (2016, public sector org) and the focus was almost entirely presented as the far right and that was the example used.

in the links to a post about Hope not Hate the other day I ended up reading a recent government report into the Prevent programme. It talked about how the programme was not intended to tackle “hate crime” or educate people more generally but monitor and tackle credible terrorist threats, and the focus on the “far right” being demanded was disproportionate as the main terrorist threat in the U.K. was radical Islamism and had been since the programme was set up. It also said that there was concerning training material from partners which whitewashed “Antifa” and other leftist groups which the guy felt needed more focus along with the right.

Interesting, will take a look later!

Klippenstein had a 25 minute chat with Ana Kasparian at The Young Turks about his investigation. There was plenty of food for thought: