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TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown · 15/09/2025 14:14

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 14:11

Ah well then that's ok...only one dead...the other 2 were only shot ...they will be tickety boo in 3 shakes if a lambs tail...no lasting damage mentally or physically im sure . Next ! Talk about minimising.

This is not a thread about that event.

Feel free to start one.

Justnot · 15/09/2025 14:13

I feel like we need an entrance exam…..

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 14:11

TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown · 15/09/2025 14:00

How to demonstrate you’ve not RTFT without saying you’ve not RTFT.

The only kid that died in that Colorado school shooting was the perp who took his own life. We talked about him in the early part of the thread.

So far he seems to have been radicalised by the same Nihilistic extremism as many other teenage terrorists and mass killers/mass killer wannabes recently but not much info has been released yet.

Hopefully the two teens he shot will have a rapid recovery and go on to live full and happy lives.

Ah well then that's ok...only one dead...the other 2 were only shot ...they will be tickety boo in 3 shakes if a lambs tail...no lasting damage mentally or physically im sure . Next ! Talk about minimising.

TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown · 15/09/2025 14:11

TheKeatingFive · 15/09/2025 14:07

I 100% want the Epstein files published. But I fear it will never happen, because too many powerful people are implicated - on all sides.

Sadly, I feel the same.

Maybe it will be released in 100 years when all the major players and the women and girls they exploited are long dead.

TheKeatingFive · 15/09/2025 14:07

I 100% want the Epstein files published. But I fear it will never happen, because too many powerful people are implicated - on all sides.

TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown · 15/09/2025 14:02

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 13:32

Gullible im not. 😃

Release the epstein files, his name is all over them, he even signed the birthday card. The desperation to deflect is hanging out of him.

You know, it’s possible for people to both suspect that Tyler Robinson was influenced by extreme left Trantifa ideology AND want the Epstein files to be published.

TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown · 15/09/2025 14:00

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 13:12

...while ignoring the violence and death that has been inflicted by the far right conservative 'christian' (?) Trump supporting Republicans on many Democrats.
Let's not forget the shooting of the 3 children on the same day as ck was murdered, that hasn't so much as raised an eyebrow let alone an objection but that doesn't fit into trumps agenda to deflect from epstein, create a civil war and cancel the midterms...its so obvious he may as well just come out and say it with a banner above his head.

How to demonstrate you’ve not RTFT without saying you’ve not RTFT.

The only kid that died in that Colorado school shooting was the perp who took his own life. We talked about him in the early part of the thread.

So far he seems to have been radicalised by the same Nihilistic extremism as many other teenage terrorists and mass killers/mass killer wannabes recently but not much info has been released yet.

Hopefully the two teens he shot will have a rapid recovery and go on to live full and happy lives.

TalkingintheDark · 15/09/2025 13:58

Waitingforthecold · 15/09/2025 11:44

Are trans people seriously being held accountable to men’s treatment of women? Unfortunately men will find ways to abuse, assault and murder women regardless of what we do about single sex spaces.

my point is that I do not believe protecting single sec spaces will make any difference to the stats on male violence of women and girls. I would argue there’s a much larger, threat in common

Your fundamental logic fail here is to posit that “trans people” and “men” are two entirely separate, discrete groupings. Which is clearly nonsense.

While “trans people” in general can of course encompass people of both sexes, the “trans people” that women are concerned about invading our single sex spaces etc are men. All of them. It’s totally illogical to pretend that they’re a distinct group from men, when men who “identify as women” are clearly just a subset of men.

Adult human males: men, according to UK law, and of course material reality.

And these men are just as likely to abuse, assault and murder women as other men.

Of course not all of them will, just as not all other men will; but statistically theyre just as much of a risk as other men - and they’re proving they’re men who don’t care about violating women’s boundaries (or they even enjoy it) by being in our spaces/services/sports in the first place, a further risk factor. We have absolutely zero reason to make an exception for them or extend any trust to them.

This magical thinking of yours whereby the moment a man proclaims he “identifies as a woman”, he instantly stops being a man and loses all the characteristics associated with being a man and instead acquires all the characteristics associated with being a woman is just extraordinary, and completely divorced from the real world.

lcakethereforeIam · 15/09/2025 13:34

These three children that were shot. Don't I need to know and approve of what their opinions were on hot button topics before I'm allowed to condemn the harm inflicted on them? As some of the reactions to Charlie Kirk's murder have demonstrated, isn’t that how it works?

As I understand the shooter is the only one who died, from a self-inflicted gun shot. The other two children were injured. I wish them the best healing.

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 13:32

SionnachRuadh · 15/09/2025 13:17

Mate. You need to spend less time on Reddit.

Gullible im not. 😃

Release the epstein files, his name is all over them, he even signed the birthday card. The desperation to deflect is hanging out of him.

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 13:24

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2025 13:08

RTFT it’s been confirmed now and reported by NBC, CNN, BBC.

They're confirming what the fbi is saying, in other words what trump wants them to say. The fact remains whether he is gay or not whether his partner is transitioning or not ...it wasnt his partner who shot ck it was the maga born and bred young man who was immersed in gun culture. It doesn't exactly absolve the magas from.responsi elite despite what they would like you to believe.

For perspective republicans are gay and trans too. The rnc regularly crashes grinder when in town, they just like to pretend they're not gay .

SionnachRuadh · 15/09/2025 13:17

Mate. You need to spend less time on Reddit.

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 13:12

StellaAndCrow · 15/09/2025 12:53

Do we need a separate thread to discuss the murder of Charlie Kirk, and the links between the people who discussed it the day before it happened?

Though this thread has been excellent at showing the lengths some people will go to in order to derail the discussion and distract from the concerns of radicalised TRA violence.

...while ignoring the violence and death that has been inflicted by the far right conservative 'christian' (?) Trump supporting Republicans on many Democrats.
Let's not forget the shooting of the 3 children on the same day as ck was murdered, that hasn't so much as raised an eyebrow let alone an objection but that doesn't fit into trumps agenda to deflect from epstein, create a civil war and cancel the midterms...its so obvious he may as well just come out and say it with a banner above his head.

Merrymouse · 15/09/2025 13:09

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 13:06

...and therein lies the lies and bs. Fox news and fbi sources...you mean Donald Trump desperate to say its a trans lefty issue...deflect from epstein and create a civil war to stop the midterms ....
At least watch some other news outlet that challenges your mindset ...but fox...you may as well ask trump directly...and as for the fbi ...Kash Patel has reneged on every thing he has ever said about epstein and is now actively covering it up. Its a joke.

Can you explain which bit is lying?

The same information seems to be reported by the BBC.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2025 13:08

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 13:06

...and therein lies the lies and bs. Fox news and fbi sources...you mean Donald Trump desperate to say its a trans lefty issue...deflect from epstein and create a civil war to stop the midterms ....
At least watch some other news outlet that challenges your mindset ...but fox...you may as well ask trump directly...and as for the fbi ...Kash Patel has reneged on every thing he has ever said about epstein and is now actively covering it up. Its a joke.

RTFT it’s been confirmed now and reported by NBC, CNN, BBC.

JamieCannister · 15/09/2025 13:07

Merrymouse · 15/09/2025 12:18

I'm interested in the fact that he eventually targeted an outsider.

I would have thought that Charlie Kirk is less of a 'change maker' in Utah society than in other parts of the US, because the conservatism already exists and is so defined by the religion (and has form for being anti Trump e.g. Romney, Evan McMullen).

I think that he was targeted because he wanted (and was having) conversations, and transgender ideology can only survive, let alone thrive, in a #nodebate, "repeat our mantras" world.

SionnachRuadh · 15/09/2025 13:07

I think it's very clear from several threads that some people really don't want any discussion of what might have motivated the murder.

Tinytimmy123 · 15/09/2025 13:06

gruebleen · 14/09/2025 06:39

...and therein lies the lies and bs. Fox news and fbi sources...you mean Donald Trump desperate to say its a trans lefty issue...deflect from epstein and create a civil war to stop the midterms ....
At least watch some other news outlet that challenges your mindset ...but fox...you may as well ask trump directly...and as for the fbi ...Kash Patel has reneged on every thing he has ever said about epstein and is now actively covering it up. Its a joke.

TheKeatingFive · 15/09/2025 13:03

Spookygoose · 15/09/2025 12:38

The only societal issue at blame here is America’s ridiculous lack of gun control

It's one issue at blame.

Its definitely not the only issue.

ArabellaSaurus · 15/09/2025 13:03

Not sure what I was deleted for.

Perhaps a post linking to the ICD 11, which describes how 'gender incongruence' must be differentiated from 'transvestic fetishism'.

Not sure why, this is the diagnostic manual the WHO and the NHS rely on.

JamieCannister · 15/09/2025 12:59

Sorry to bring up an old tangent again, but in my view there are some causes that justify violence.

One might argue that giving women basic human rights is a cause that justifies violence.

One cannot argue that ending women's basic human rights is a cause that justifies violence... it doesn't even justify printing leaflets.

Helleofabore · 15/09/2025 12:55

Helleofabore · 15/09/2025 12:13

Can we also remember that the amount of sexual abuse in schools is horrifically high.

It is NOT inclusive to allow male students access to female single sex provisions. Because the very presence of any male person in a space that is supposed to be just for female people can cause distress for the female student. Just the presence of someone who is male can cause a female student to start to self exclude from that space which was supposed to be just for female people.

Can we also remember that just because someone says they are 'trans' doesn't mean that they are not an abuser who is male. And that allowing any male person legitimate access to their victim in what is expected to be a single sex space is causing additional harm.

As male children have now been established to have physical advantages over female children even from the age of 7, why would we be allowing any male children to use female children's single sex spaces? When a girl feels intimidated by a boy's presence knowing that they can overpower her, why are we ignoring her concerns and centring the boy? All because that boy has a belief about himself that is not based in material reality.

StellaAndCrow · 15/09/2025 12:53

Do we need a separate thread to discuss the murder of Charlie Kirk, and the links between the people who discussed it the day before it happened?

Though this thread has been excellent at showing the lengths some people will go to in order to derail the discussion and distract from the concerns of radicalised TRA violence.

Helleofabore · 15/09/2025 12:45

Fuck! Predictive auto fill.

"Take the example that a current single sex space for female people is 4 cubicles and the organisation provided one space for the female people who want female single sex spaces. All that will mean is that once the female people realise that the original space they thought was female only is mixed sex, they will all use the 'third space'. Then that 'third space' become over subscribed and likely result in lines so the organisation will then be under pressure to reinstate the original female single sex space where there are 4 cubicles and state that no male people are allowed access over a certain age."