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Sikh woman raped in apparently racially motivated attack

88 replies

TheJoyOfWriting · 12/09/2025 15:53

Terrible. We need look out for ourselves and where possible other women, given the police seem far too unreliable and there is rising misogyny is various forms- in this case apparently aggravated by racism..

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/12/alleged-rape-sikh-woman-west-midlands-hate-crime

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TheJoyOfWriting · 12/09/2025 16:42

Chilliprawnpls · 12/09/2025 15:56

I hate ascribing any other “motivation” to a rape than sinister fuckhead who thought he’d rip the knickers of a woman and utterly violate her in the most unimaginably horrific way for his own satisfaction.

. Lesbians get raped in South Africa bc they are lesbian (happens here too sometimes, much less but does happen.)

In that case, it's important to recognise the misogyny but also homophobia involved.

The Rotherham victims were targeted partly bc they were white. That's important to know isn't it?

Native American women are very lilely to be sexually assaulted.

Saying there was a racial motive doesn't mean it wasn't misogynistic. It was BOTH.

One does not negate the other.

We have genuine immigrantion problems here, but we also have a racism increase, it's not all reasonable protest. As feminists, we can acknowledge all those facts and oppose all harm to women, while also being aware of aggravating factors.

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KkkIt · 12/09/2025 16:34

Grammarnut · 12/09/2025 16:22

I am confused by the police treating this alleged rape as a 'hate crime'. Aren't all rapes hate crimes? Poor woman. I don't think it helps at all to call this alleged rape a hate crime - the crime is rape, calling it a 'hate' crime disguises and minimizes the nature of the assault as if rape on its own isn't that bad.

Sadly no. Rape is not automatically hate crime.
A hate crime is one motivated by hostility based on race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity.
There have been campaigns to get misogyny added to this list but so far not successful.

Chilliprawnpls · 12/09/2025 16:33

ScholesPanda · 12/09/2025 16:33

Us? Are you in a hive mind with some other posters?

And yes, if someone's reaction to a rape is 'what about the other rapes', I will call it whatboutery, because that's literally what it is.

But I'm not stopping you from saying anything, you knock yourself out. In fact, I'd love to hear your take on what has happened.

How bizarre.

ScholesPanda · 12/09/2025 16:33

Chilliprawnpls · 12/09/2025 16:26

Accusing us of “whatsboutery” 🙄

Us? Are you in a hive mind with some other posters?

And yes, if someone's reaction to a rape is 'what about the other rapes', I will call it whatboutery, because that's literally what it is.

But I'm not stopping you from saying anything, you knock yourself out. In fact, I'd love to hear your take on what has happened.

AgnesX · 12/09/2025 16:29

Poor woman. It shouldn't happen to any woman much less by some mean minded brainless shit because of her religious background (and presumably race).

These people fill me with impotent rage.

Chilliprawnpls · 12/09/2025 16:26

ScholesPanda · 12/09/2025 16:25

In what way am I shutting down anything? What is it that I've said that you disagree with?

Accusing us of “whatsboutery” 🙄

ScholesPanda · 12/09/2025 16:25

Chilliprawnpls · 12/09/2025 16:23

And here you are just wanting to shut down anything other than unequivocal yes sir no sir three bags full sir

In what way am I shutting down anything? What is it that I've said that you disagree with?

Chilliprawnpls · 12/09/2025 16:23

ScholesPanda · 12/09/2025 16:16

Two posts in and we're already at whataboutery.

Every rape is awful. It's also awful that as racism rises, racially motivated rape rises. Not surprising though, given that in every conflict, war, genocide, ethnic conflict etc. men have used rape as a weapon.

And here you are just wanting to shut down anything other than unequivocal yes sir no sir three bags full sir

Grammarnut · 12/09/2025 16:22

I am confused by the police treating this alleged rape as a 'hate crime'. Aren't all rapes hate crimes? Poor woman. I don't think it helps at all to call this alleged rape a hate crime - the crime is rape, calling it a 'hate' crime disguises and minimizes the nature of the assault as if rape on its own isn't that bad.

ScholesPanda · 12/09/2025 16:16

Two posts in and we're already at whataboutery.

Every rape is awful. It's also awful that as racism rises, racially motivated rape rises. Not surprising though, given that in every conflict, war, genocide, ethnic conflict etc. men have used rape as a weapon.

SternJoyousBeev2 · 12/09/2025 16:04

Fingers crossed the police will find the thugs and they will be prosecuted by CPS.

CaroleLandis · 12/09/2025 15:58

How many other rapes have you posted about or have you just singled this one out ?

Women of all creeds and colours are raped every day. We need to prevent rape happening to EVERY woman.

Chilliprawnpls · 12/09/2025 15:56

I hate ascribing any other “motivation” to a rape than sinister fuckhead who thought he’d rip the knickers of a woman and utterly violate her in the most unimaginably horrific way for his own satisfaction.