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Mandelson believed Epstein over victims and should go

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StarlightRobot · 11/09/2025 07:59

This is a feminist issue. Mandelson has admitted that he chose to believe Epstein, who had at that point been convicted of sex trafficking children, over Epstein’s victims. Surely this choice makes him an unacceptable person to represent the UK? Why on Earth does Starmer think it’s ok to keep Mandelson in his position? I stand with the victims and it is not good enough for Mandelson to sheepishly apologise with the benefit of hindsight.

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NautilusLionfish · 11/09/2025 09:20

SeeTown · 11/09/2025 09:10

Did he believe Epstein though or did he just not care about what Epstein was doing?

He loved him and wanted him back.
"when Epstein was facing prosecution for soliciting sex from a minor, Mandelson emailed him to say: “Your friends stay with you and love you.”
Another reported message, shortly before Epstein was handed a brief jail term, said: “Fight for early release.”
Source: The Guardian.

So he cared more about Epshite than the young women whose lives he was destroying

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/09/2025 09:20

Mrsmunchofmunchington · 11/09/2025 09:05

This was a general statement. I’m well aware PM is gay.
That doesn’t mean he was any the more enlightened regarding older men using young women and girls.

It’s not an enormous stretch to wonder whether Epstein catered to different tastes either, is it?

His creepy notes made me feel sick. Not only must he go, his association ought to be investigated more deeply.

StarlightRobot · 11/09/2025 09:19

@SeeTown

He claims to have believed Epstein. If that is true, it is scandalous because that means he believed the victims were lying.

If he’s lying and never believed Epstein, that is scandalous because he maintained the friendship.

Either way, it is unacceptable

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JacknDiane · 11/09/2025 09:16

He should certainly go.

Mrsmunchofmunchington · 11/09/2025 09:11

I agree with @MinnieCauldwell there is something reptilian about him.

Some men give a vibe that they are not to be trusted, give off a sort of sexual slime. PM is one of them.

Probably why trump is now saying he likes him. Like calls to like.
Maybe they are covering for each other in a cesspit of sex pests.

NautilusLionfish · 11/09/2025 09:11

LizzieSiddal · 11/09/2025 09:07

Agree with you. It is deeply wrong of him to be brought back into any public role. You wonder who did the “due process” for him to be allowed back, they obviously felt being “best pals” with a sex trafficker and rapist didn’t matter.

Mandleson also didn’t declare most of the meetings he’d had with Epstein, when he was in government last time, so that’s a sackable offence in itself.

He should be sacked today.

Well they keep saying Mendelson is good with Trump.

Well obviously. Birds of a feather? Best pals with rapists

LizzieSiddal · 11/09/2025 09:10

This article details Mandelson’s relationship with Epstein throughout the years.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15086565/dossier-Epstein-Mandelson-desk-scandal-GUY-ADAMS.html

SeeTown · 11/09/2025 09:10

Did he believe Epstein though or did he just not care about what Epstein was doing?

PronounssheRa · 11/09/2025 09:09

ProfessorLayton1 · 11/09/2025 08:21

He will have excellent relationship with Trump, may know a thing or two about the president. This gives him and the UK leverage in dealing with the current US government. Keir Starmer knew exactly what he was doing !

Equally he is vulnerable to pressure from actors who are not Trump, who know a thing or two about Mandelson and other people who were in the orbit of Epstein.

Epstein had 'friends' all across the political spectrum, and knowledge of them and what went on could as much be used as leverage against Mandelson and the UK, as any leverage Mandelson may have with Trump.

This isn't a one way street

NautilusLionfish · 11/09/2025 09:09

StarlightRobot · 11/09/2025 07:59

This is a feminist issue. Mandelson has admitted that he chose to believe Epstein, who had at that point been convicted of sex trafficking children, over Epstein’s victims. Surely this choice makes him an unacceptable person to represent the UK? Why on Earth does Starmer think it’s ok to keep Mandelson in his position? I stand with the victims and it is not good enough for Mandelson to sheepishly apologise with the benefit of hindsight.

Right?
His letters are quite bizarre at times. Like a love sick teenager. And he blithely says there is worse to come. But Starmer. Oh not Starmer stands by him. Who will stand by women and girls?

LizzieSiddal · 11/09/2025 09:08

MargoLivebetter · 11/09/2025 09:07

Has Mandelson ever spoken up to apologise for his association before, or is this just him speaking up now because he has been caught out? I never liked him during the Blair days (nothing to do with him being gay). I always thought that there was such a streak of ruthless power hunting in him, that he was dangerous.

The Epstein saga disgusts me on so many levels. So many people corrupted by one man in so many different ways.

Before all this came out he said he’d only met Epstein “4 or 5 times”. Liar liar liar.

LizzieSiddal · 11/09/2025 09:07

Agree with you. It is deeply wrong of him to be brought back into any public role. You wonder who did the “due process” for him to be allowed back, they obviously felt being “best pals” with a sex trafficker and rapist didn’t matter.

Mandleson also didn’t declare most of the meetings he’d had with Epstein, when he was in government last time, so that’s a sackable offence in itself.

He should be sacked today.

RoyalCorgi · 11/09/2025 09:07

I agree. I'm absolutely disgusted at this. What an appalling man.

MargoLivebetter · 11/09/2025 09:07

Has Mandelson ever spoken up to apologise for his association before, or is this just him speaking up now because he has been caught out? I never liked him during the Blair days (nothing to do with him being gay). I always thought that there was such a streak of ruthless power hunting in him, that he was dangerous.

The Epstein saga disgusts me on so many levels. So many people corrupted by one man in so many different ways.

Mrsmunchofmunchington · 11/09/2025 09:05

JustineRobots · 11/09/2025 08:34

So many men still think a middle aged man having sex with very young women is great and only wish they could do the same. It’s deeply disturbing.

I very much doubt that Peter Mandelson is wishing for that…

This was a general statement. I’m well aware PM is gay.
That doesn’t mean he was any the more enlightened regarding older men using young women and girls.

GingerBeverage · 11/09/2025 09:05

His wiki clearly lists several other scandals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mandelson

He's 'dirty' and was never fit for his role.

Peter Mandelson - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mandelson

Nousernamesleftatall · 11/09/2025 09:03

He knew exactly what Epstein was. They all did, they just don’t care.

StarlightRobot · 11/09/2025 09:01

@TheCatsTongue

Which Labour MPs are outraged? My impression is that there has been a lack of outrage. I would love to hear otherwise

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TheCatsTongue · 11/09/2025 08:55

Interesting that a lot more Labour MPs are outraged over this as opposed to the rape gangs happening in their own country and constituency.

Abhannmor · 11/09/2025 08:50

Totally . How on earth was he rehabbed after being fired by Blair and Brown? Of course he was very active in the smear campaign and general sabotage of Corbyn , so perhaps Starmer owes him. A lot of the media tarts who worked with him in that disgraceful episode are now feigning shock and outrage. How nauseating.

John Prescott inspecting a crab at some reception : He's nice isn't he? Shall we call him Peter?

DryAndBalmy · 11/09/2025 08:41

Completely agree

HermioneWeasley · 11/09/2025 08:39

He supported Epstein after his conviction, he has to go. And Starmer has zero judgement on people, a week after he backed Rayner and then she had to resign, he’s now backing Mandleson!

Cardamomandlemons · 11/09/2025 08:36

He is ambassador to the US. Honestly he fits right in.

defrazzled · 11/09/2025 08:35

Mandelson knew exactly what he was doing as did all the other men who visited that island. They all knew. The BBC knew what Savile was up to. The Police and social workers knew about the rape gangs prey on looked after and vulnerable girls. They know and do nothing because mens feelings and perversions are more important than womens lives. Everyone knew. Blair knew so made sure Mandelson was in the firing line for it not him, the coward Stamer knows if he fires Mandelson it will raise heat on Trump so Stamer will not sack him. And so the world turns, perverted men escape justice and rape at will, women and children suffer, those in power join in or look the other way.

JustineRobots · 11/09/2025 08:34

So many men still think a middle aged man having sex with very young women is great and only wish they could do the same. It’s deeply disturbing.

I very much doubt that Peter Mandelson is wishing for that…

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