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Mandelson believed Epstein over victims and should go

109 replies

StarlightRobot · 11/09/2025 07:59

This is a feminist issue. Mandelson has admitted that he chose to believe Epstein, who had at that point been convicted of sex trafficking children, over Epstein’s victims. Surely this choice makes him an unacceptable person to represent the UK? Why on Earth does Starmer think it’s ok to keep Mandelson in his position? I stand with the victims and it is not good enough for Mandelson to sheepishly apologise with the benefit of hindsight.

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TeenagersAngst · 11/09/2025 13:42

Foolsgold74 · 11/09/2025 11:40

Stamer was daft to come out to back him so vociferously when a storm was brewing. He could have made a holding statement instead.

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Yet another example of his lack of political chops.

I'm actually starting to feel sorry for him. What a shit job he has.

Pollyanna87 · 11/09/2025 13:28

The emails read as though Mandelson had a crush on Epstein.

RayonSunrise · 11/09/2025 13:01

Good, I’m glad we’re in agreement. I suspect we’re going to find a lot of British politicians have been a little too close to Epstein for comfort, and Labour should not be the only party feeling nervous. Bring it on.

EasternStandard · 11/09/2025 12:58

RayonSunrise · 11/09/2025 12:56

It’s hardly late, unless you are actually advocating Starmer do nothing. Mandelson going should not be the end. That s the point.

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I have no desire to protect any of them don’t worry. Starmer is accountable on this too.

RayonSunrise · 11/09/2025 12:56

EasternStandard · 11/09/2025 12:50

Bit late after he declared ‘full confidence’ a few days ago.

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It’s hardly late, unless you are actually advocating Starmer do nothing. Mandelson going should not be the end. That s the point.

EasternStandard · 11/09/2025 12:50

RayonSunrise · 11/09/2025 12:46

Excellent commentary on this from Stella Tsantekidou. She’s right, Starmer has to go scorched earth on Mandelson and not stop til he gets to the bottom of every Epstein link across the British political spectrum:

https://open.substack.com/pub/humancarbohydrate/p/labour-must-drag-mandelson-through?r=xhvm&utm_medium=ios

Bit late after he declared ‘full confidence’ a few days ago.

RayonSunrise · 11/09/2025 12:46

Excellent commentary on this from Stella Tsantekidou. She’s right, Starmer has to go scorched earth on Mandelson and not stop til he gets to the bottom of every Epstein link across the British political spectrum:

https://open.substack.com/pub/humancarbohydrate/p/labour-must-drag-mandelson-through?r=xhvm&utm_medium=ios

DryAndBalmy · 11/09/2025 12:22

deadpan · 11/09/2025 11:51

I'd like to take responsibility for his sacking, because I emailed my MP this morning. 😂

Good for you!

Uricon2 · 11/09/2025 12:20

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 11/09/2025 12:11

Good point, we know he's partial to accepting a loan and those big houses won't buy themselves...

Also totally OT, but hope your feeling better.

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Thank you, yes, getting there!

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 11/09/2025 12:11

Uricon2 · 11/09/2025 11:42

Given Mandelson's financial history, I wonder how much money he got from Epstein.

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Good point, we know he's partial to accepting a loan and those big houses won't buy themselves...

Also totally OT, but hope your feeling better.

NautilusLionfish · 11/09/2025 12:03

deadpan · 11/09/2025 11:51

I'd like to take responsibility for his sacking, because I emailed my MP this morning. 😂

Well done you. Who is next (rubbing hands gleefully)

deadpan · 11/09/2025 11:51

I'd like to take responsibility for his sacking, because I emailed my MP this morning. 😂

Uricon2 · 11/09/2025 11:42

Given Mandelson's financial history, I wonder how much money he got from Epstein.

Foolsgold74 · 11/09/2025 11:40

MinnieBaldock · 11/09/2025 11:05

I bet Starmer is getting fed up defending so many people he has backed and given top places to. He must be wondering what is going to happen next.

Stamer was daft to come out to back him so vociferously when a storm was brewing. He could have made a holding statement instead.

Foolsgold74 · 11/09/2025 11:37

CurlewKate · 11/09/2025 11:04

Good. I’m glad he’s gone. I am however, bothered by the suggestion in some posts that gay men are less likely to be concerned about sexual exploitation than straight men.

Men in general don't give a shit about women. Gay or straight.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 11/09/2025 11:26

CurlewKate · 11/09/2025 11:04

Good. I’m glad he’s gone. I am however, bothered by the suggestion in some posts that gay men are less likely to be concerned about sexual exploitation than straight men.

i don't think there's much, if any, difference. Gay men and straight men both include a sizeable proportion with little respect for women, and both include men who are "of the Tatchell persuasion" and think they can justify their behaviour by claiming that children are not damaged by sexual activity with older people.

I am not making any claim about Tatchell's behaviour other than his advocacy for normalising sexual contact with children.

NautilusLionfish · 11/09/2025 11:17

Fired!

NautilusLionfish · 11/09/2025 11:15

ArabellaSaurus · 11/09/2025 10:57

If he has any sense he'll have someone reading it for him.

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And interpreting. He might be stamped by terms like LTB, cocklodger, woman, women's rights, women and girls safety, but please dont let him know people survive on a huuuge bowl of salad. He might put this ailing nation on a salad diet and tell us not to worry about cost of food.

MinnieBaldock · 11/09/2025 11:05

I bet Starmer is getting fed up defending so many people he has backed and given top places to. He must be wondering what is going to happen next.

CurlewKate · 11/09/2025 11:04

Good. I’m glad he’s gone. I am however, bothered by the suggestion in some posts that gay men are less likely to be concerned about sexual exploitation than straight men.

Wolbutter · 11/09/2025 11:01

He's gone. I think PM has never thought women matter. Maybe I'm naive but I thought much better of Starmer

Radiatorvalves · 11/09/2025 10:59

Gone and good riddance.

murasaki · 11/09/2025 10:59

He's always so reactive, and slow with it. This should have been done immediately, not when the media had spent several days pointing it out. Really, given he's admitted knowing something at the time of appointment, there should have never been an appointment. Saying effectively 'we knew it was bad, but not that bad' isn't a good look.

HangingOver · 11/09/2025 10:58

I'm generally a fan of Starmer's but if it turns out he knew that Mandy was defending a convicted paedo and appointed him anyway because he'd get on well with he sleezy mate Trump then I'm jumping ship. I am so angry.

ArabellaSaurus · 11/09/2025 10:57

StarlightRobot · 11/09/2025 10:53

Was Keir reading mumsnet this morning?

If he has any sense he'll have someone reading it for him.

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