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GUM clinic asked for gender.....

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OverlyFragrant · 05/09/2025 22:45

Had reason to visit a GUM clinic today, the booking in form asked for my gender, nothing about sex, just gender.
So I did what I always do when asked such stupid questions and chose the 'prefer not to disclose' option and handed back in to reception.
The poor woman then asked me if I meant to select that option.
It wasnt the time or the place to announce my disbelief in gender, or gender identity, so just said quite firmly "yeah".
I'm quite obviously a woman, with problems unique to the female sex.
Why on earth isn't that more relevant than my gender at a sex clinic of all places?

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Howseitgoin · 06/09/2025 00:17

ErrolTheDragon · 06/09/2025 00:12

No, they should just ask how you would like to be referred to. This is properly inclusive; it allows anyone who prefers pronouns not congruent with their sex to say so, but it also allows for any other naming preference people have. For instance, MiL went all her life by her middle name but hospitals she was admitted to seemed unable to cope with this and persistently used her first name which she’d always hated. Otoh my late DM disliked anyone she didn’t know well calling her by her given name; fortunately she had her heart op in a hospital where they had the courtesy to ask and so called her Mrs XX.

surely you don’t think only the dignity of people with ‘preferred pronouns’ matter?

'Nick' names are problematic in medical/hospital settings because they have to constantly check whether its 'you' before they give out meds or perform surgery so I can understand the confusion using different names.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/09/2025 00:15

Howseitgoin · 06/09/2025 00:13

One of my elderly neighbours who we in our street regularly all socialise with & have known for years, expects us all to still refer to him as 'Mr' not by his first name. If that's his preference big deal.

It's really just first world problems & frankly demented to agonise over such minor issues.

Xpost - good, then you agree they should just ask what people would like to be referred to as. The ‘gender’ question doesnt do this broadly enough.

Howseitgoin · 06/09/2025 00:13

Magenta82 · 06/09/2025 00:07

Its not really polite to use 3rd party pronouns at someone though is it?

I remember the standard response to such rude behaviour being "Who is she? The cat's mother?"

One of my elderly neighbours who we in our street regularly all socialise with & have known for years, expects us all to still refer to him as 'Mr' not by his first name. If that's his preference big deal.

It's really just first world problems & frankly demented to agonise over such minor issues.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/09/2025 00:12

Howseitgoin · 06/09/2025 00:00

Look sure they could ask differently like 'would you like to be referred to a she or he or they' but it's the same thing & they have an obligation to treat people with dignity & respect not just treat them.

No, they should just ask how you would like to be referred to. This is properly inclusive; it allows anyone who prefers pronouns not congruent with their sex to say so, but it also allows for any other naming preference people have. For instance, MiL went all her life by her middle name but hospitals she was admitted to seemed unable to cope with this and persistently used her first name which she’d always hated. Otoh my late DM disliked anyone she didn’t know well calling her by her given name; fortunately she had her heart op in a hospital where they had the courtesy to ask and so called her Mrs XX.

surely you don’t think only the dignity of people with ‘preferred pronouns’ matter?

Magenta82 · 06/09/2025 00:07

Howseitgoin · 05/09/2025 23:49

Maybe so they could use correct pronouns & be polite?

Its not really polite to use 3rd party pronouns at someone though is it?

I remember the standard response to such rude behaviour being "Who is she? The cat's mother?"

Howseitgoin · 06/09/2025 00:00

ErrolTheDragon · 05/09/2025 23:55

They just need to ask for sex (clinically relevant, I’m sure anyone sane agrees?) and how you want to be referred to. That’s polite to everyone without getting into details of personal data which they don’t need to collect for their purpose.

Look sure they could ask differently like 'would you like to be referred to a she or he or they' but it's the same thing & they have an obligation to treat people with dignity & respect not just treat them.

OverlyFragrant · 05/09/2025 23:57

Howseitgoin · 05/09/2025 23:49

Maybe so they could use correct pronouns & be polite?

I'd prefer they know if I needed a male or female nurse first, and accurate tools relevant to my sex specific anatomy

That's a bit more important than referring to someone as him or her behind their back isn't it.

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ErrolTheDragon · 05/09/2025 23:55

Howseitgoin · 05/09/2025 23:49

Maybe so they could use correct pronouns & be polite?

They just need to ask for sex (clinically relevant, I’m sure anyone sane agrees?) and how you want to be referred to. That’s polite to everyone without getting into details of personal data which they don’t need to collect for their purpose.

Howseitgoin · 05/09/2025 23:49

OverlyFragrant · 05/09/2025 22:45

Had reason to visit a GUM clinic today, the booking in form asked for my gender, nothing about sex, just gender.
So I did what I always do when asked such stupid questions and chose the 'prefer not to disclose' option and handed back in to reception.
The poor woman then asked me if I meant to select that option.
It wasnt the time or the place to announce my disbelief in gender, or gender identity, so just said quite firmly "yeah".
I'm quite obviously a woman, with problems unique to the female sex.
Why on earth isn't that more relevant than my gender at a sex clinic of all places?

Maybe so they could use correct pronouns & be polite?

ErrolTheDragon · 05/09/2025 23:41

RedToothBrush · 05/09/2025 23:10

Because of bullshit like this.

It's 'humiliating' to acknowledge your sex, whilst simultaneously being open on bluesky about the fact you are trans.

It makes no sense.

Good grief. Does that foolish person honestly not understand why a triage system needs to know medically relevant information even when it’s clearly explained below? Do they want to earn a Darwin Award?

Northquit · 05/09/2025 23:36

LeftieRightsHoarder · 05/09/2025 23:05

Bizarre. Whatever your gender, star sign or other fantasies, it’s your body that needs treatment, and your sex is likely to be relevant.

I feel worried when people I rely on for physical healthcare don’t seem to understand biology.

Oh my! You've made decide to say 'sagittarius' next time I'm asked.

I know I'm not a Sagittarius but hey that'll be an interesting conversation too.
Tee hee.

MotherJessAndKittens · 05/09/2025 23:26

Good luck to anyone trying to insert a coil in a man who identifies as female then! And bad luck to the man!

JeremiahBullfrog · 05/09/2025 23:22

Woman on desk is pressuring you to comment on your gender identity against your will, isn't that terrible bigotry in gender theory?

RedToothBrush · 05/09/2025 23:10

Because of bullshit like this.

It's 'humiliating' to acknowledge your sex, whilst simultaneously being open on bluesky about the fact you are trans.

It makes no sense.

GUM clinic asked for gender.....
HobnobsChoice · 05/09/2025 23:10

I had a similar experience when I went to a sexual health and contraception clinic (which was run by virgin health which was very amusing). I was 6 weeks post partum and there for a new IUD. This was before most places had started asking if your gender is was the same as "your sex assigned at birth" but it's still a ludicrous question as it changes the type of examination you need as well as different chaperone requirements

LeftieRightsHoarder · 05/09/2025 23:05

Bizarre. Whatever your gender, star sign or other fantasies, it’s your body that needs treatment, and your sex is likely to be relevant.

I feel worried when people I rely on for physical healthcare don’t seem to understand biology.

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