Feminist activist sent to prison for ‘Allah is lesbian’ T-shirt - Morocco

Oh, and setting bombs not to harm people doesn't make sense. That is the purpose of a bomb. To harm.

Lucy Connelly was in prison bc she spoke about setting fire to hotels during a riot, broadcasting that to countless people and only taking it down when protested. It was hyperbole, but in a violent atmosphere where people dod attempt to burn the immigrants in the hotels, I agree w the decision. She should have gone to prison. But the sentence was far too long, and the Labour man who talked about cutting Tory throats should be in jail too. So should Kneecap. All this violent incitement is unacceptable.

Lucy Connelly has lost a child some years ago, which is terrible, and an element But that isn't an excuse for what she posted. It wouldn't be for a bereaved father, neither should it be for a mother. I think an overlooked element of the case is that troubled people should not be conditioned by SM to broadcast their feelings to the world, but that's how the SM companies make their money. I feel they are also culpable.

Then maybe trust that it's possible that they know more than you and that that law maybe there for reasons you don't fully understand. Too many people protest laws on such a narcissistic basis because they don't like them or feel they aren't beneficial to them as individuals when laws are often in existence for the benefit of society as a whole. If your government doesn't allow it then prey one day you wake up a resident of somewhere like Britain where we allow terrorist supporters to protest on the streets burning flags of our close allies.

Then maybe trust that it's possible that they know more than you and that that law maybe there for reasons you don't fully understand. Too many people protest laws on such a narcissistic basis because they don't like them or feel they aren't beneficial to them as individuals when laws are often in existence for the benefit of society as a whole. If your government doesn't allow it then prey one day you wake up a resident of somewhere like Britain where we allow terrorist supporters to protest on the streets burning flags of our close allies.

What if the government allows no other way?

BTW, Mandela did support setting bombs, but not to harm people. Still wrong, ofc.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/mandelas-freedom-fighter-days-not-part-saintly-image-flna2d11744279

Do what instead
People get put in prison in UK for hurty Facebook posts
We don't have free speech any more

Not by breaking them, no. There are processes to do this the right way.

What appointees?

All the more reason to not knuckle down!

But you don’t think we should ever campaign or protest to change laws?

They are critical of the idea that gendered behaviour is the ultimate determiner of whether you are a woman or man. They believe it usually aligns but is not the ultimate determiner, biological sex is that.

I agree it's not a full gender critical position, and it's confusing and annoying to see radfems like Bindel or Bellos lumped in with Matt Walsh.

What appointees?

All the more reason to not knuckle down!

I don't think we have far to go
Look at the two new appointees

If you believe in gendered behaviours then how are you being critical of the concept of gender?

Mandela was a terrorist, you think it's OK to go around blowing things up. There are people who thought the cause of the Manchester arena bomber was just, however blowing shit up isn't ever OK.

Youre not getting my point though. Whether you think it's right or wrong, laws are pointless without enforcement so yes, laws should always be enforced.

So you think Stalin was right to imprison protestors? And the South African government were right to imprison Mandela?

You think we live in a caliphate in the UK?

I know there have been worrying restrictions, but we are still able to criticise Islam. You wouldn't go to prison for that T shirt here (you might get attacked by a zealot though)

That's funny
You not from the UK then ?

But that's their country,that's their decision
Who are we to tell another country what's right or wrong
That's how wars start , getting involved in how other countries discipline their people.
Has that worked out well in any war the UK got involved in before.
No it's not right what is happening to her ..maybe she didn't go about ,what she wanted to achieve ,in the right way

Just because I have a negative view of it doesn't mean I think people shouldn't be free to practice it in their own countries. Just keep it at bay in ours.

The state has every right to persecute her for it and indeed were right to do so. Enforcing the laws of a state is essential to it's functioning whether you believe it to be right or not isn't relevant

If you have such a negative view of Islam, as I correctly anticipated you would, why do you speak so unpleasantly about brave protestors like Ibtissam Lachgar? (Let's give her the dignity of a name from now)

People challenging blasphemy laws is a step forward.

I agree that Islam has some v negative effects. Otoh the Biblical God has moments too : ordering Abraham to kill his son for one, even if he takes it back later, and condoning Lot's daughters having sex w their drunken father bc it preserves the tribal line. And I say that as a Christian!

The problem is that Saudi-funded Salafism & Wahhabism have made Islam more extreme in the last 3 centuries, not less. There are many moderate Muslims, they must be brave & we must support them to reclaim their faith from the crazies.

But that's their country,that's their decision
Who are we to tell another country what's right or wrong
That's how wars start , getting involved in how other countries discipline their people.
Has that worked out well in any war the UK got involved in before.
No it's not right what is happening to her ..maybe she didn't go about ,what she wanted to achieve ,in the right way

It’s not about whether it’s a good thing or not. I never found Charlie Hebdo particularly funny. However I don’t think they should be imprisoned or beheaded or murdered for drawing cartoons.

You can think this activists t-shirt is offensive and in bad taste whilst also thinking that the state has no right to persecute her for it.