Feminist activist sent to prison for ‘Allah is lesbian’ T-shirt - Morocco

Thank you, I wasn't aware of the ANC's violent terrorism. Terrible.

Nehru, Gandhi & MLK are better examples, as they and their movements didn't use violence.

Here's to that ! 👏

Brave woman. Fuck blasphemy laws.

Thats a fair point, I’ll re-phrase that to “my personal belief is that no individual should be persecuted for offending religious sensibilities”. Of course no country has to listen to me.

Any chance you could stop derailing?

Where have you heard this
Any links pls

It's categorically NOT genocide. If this WAS genocide then Israel could have had this over the next day. They have nukes and one of the most advanced army in the world.

If this was genocide then it must be the poorest attempt in all of human history and Israel must be so piss poor at this genocide business they'll become a laughing stock in years to come.

If you believe the Islamic terrorist fundamentalist narrative that this is genocide youre really not much brighter than they are IMO.

There has been concern over the amount of influence anti Semitic Muslim countries have over the UN and other organisations.

I agree the situation is terrible, I'm just not certain it's genocide. I hope not.

Maybe she can be a part of changing it. She knew what would happen. Very brave

Oh I am glad YOU don't think it is genocide. That will no doubt change the minds of everyone in WHO, ICC, ICJ, UN, UNICEF, IAGS and the hundreds of other non governmental organisations.

I know
Do you think they will let her out eventually

Lots of people value staying safe over speaking up for what is right. It is how totalitarian regimes are born.

It's not about knuckle under
It's about staying safe
And you can't argue with that religion
They have got her now

I don't want to derail to Connolly. I don't believe she herself wanted to invite violence, I think it was clearly hyperbole. But I still think it was ambiguous enough for a short jail sentence.

I'm sorry for mentioning her again, let's just focus on Lachgar

No, really, he didn't, he was responsible for the deaths of dozens of innocent civilians, Nelson Mandela, was a violent, murdering terrorist. These are facts despite his cause.

But the whole point is she is brave, and standing up to fight for rights. Not just knuckling under, as you keep chastising her to do (although you don't tell Connolly to do that though she was inciting violence, oddly)

No. It was not simply ridiculous, don't minimise, it was inciting violence. She wrote it during a riot. There was violence going on, it was a potentially very dangerous situation. For the same reason, people involved in the 2011 riots were given much harsher sentences than they would normally have got for such crimes, to discourage rioting

Like it or not, incitement to violence may not cause violence itself, but it is a crime for a reason.

We are in polarised times, and threats of violence should be taken seriously. That Labour councillor should also be in jail, as I said.

I do agree about the free speech threat, as in the sentence was way too harsh. Glinner's court case, too.

However, we DO have free speech. I don't believe she would have been arrested if she hadn't been inciting violence. People make racist and all other kinds of uneasant comments all the time on SM still & are OK.

I'm shocked too.

Though not surprised. This is why our country is in such a fucking mess in so many ways. People have been taught for decades to give up their basic humans rights in the cause of 'being kind' to others.

Totally
However
We haven't even got free speech in the UK
So what chance did lbtissam have where she lived .
Give it ten years ,and I can see something similar happening in uk

Ok
But
She said some ridiculous things
But if anyone had gone and done what she said
That would NOT of been her fault
She is not responsible for what other people do in a riot ,or any other time .
Plenty of people have written dreadful things on Facebook and not gone to prison
This was setting an example, letting us all know we do not now have free speech

I agree, we need to keep the distinction.

You believe these appointees support Islamic fundamentalism?

Let's not get into a discussion of Lucy Connelly, there are tons of othe threads on that. Let's keep the focus on Ibtissam Lachgar.

Let's not get into a discussion of Lucy Connelly, there are tons of othe threads on that. Let's keep the focus on Ibtissam Lachgar.

They should definitely do a better job of crime, they're a shitshow.

But inflammatory comments in a violent riot do need some curb sometimes, and I have explained why. Do you know what happens when riots get really out of control? People die. Our free speech laws do NOT cover incitement to violence, and in such a dangerous situation, violent comments should be curbed. But comments simply saying the migrants should be sent back should NOT be curbed. Free speech restriction needs to be tightly confined to violent incitement, as it should be.