Gender incongruence in surgeon who amputated legs

Surely it’s a fetish not an identity issue. The message sent along with pic of erect penis supports that!!

@nettie434 Completely agree. I think most of us feel like we would die rather than let people know we had this kind of extreme sexual fetish. And yet there do seem to be many cases where men with these strong feelings do want to talk about them and be open about it. It's almost as if they can't help themselves, or involving others in it is part of the compulsion.

Plus, in this case I think the evidence spoke for itself about his grim fantasies eg the messages and so on, although agree, I'm unsure why they, presumably voluntarily, brought the gender issues into it. I suspect as you say in an attempt to garner sympathy.

Instead, people might start to ask things like, 'What's the difference?', 'Why is it OK when it is a penis but not legs?', 'Why is one a mental health issue and one your true identity?', or even 'Why are the surrounding patterns of behaviour so similar if these things really are so different?'. And most of those people probably won't want to square that circle by concluding that the desire to live as a double amputee is a true identity worth celebrating.

Well it would be if you’d insured your penis for £400k and told the insurance company a pack of porkies about the circumstances necessitating its removal. Financial crimes have always been taken more seriously than crimes of violence in the UK.

And pretending you're a girl and having your penis cut off ... isn't fraud?

I can't help wondering why he and/or his legal team have been so open about his fantasies. Wouldn't he have been better off just pretending it was insurance fraud and was mainly driven by money? It's also hard not to question if the gender identity comments are just an ill judged attempt to help extenuate what he has done. Or maybe not so ill judged. His sentence seems remarkably lenient, given his position.

I'd also like to know how the truth emerged. It's reported that he was even interviewed on TV as a brave disability campaigner.

I totally agree with the other posters about the distress that will have been caused to some of those on whom he performed surgery.

This is a stop the world level of wtf.

A severed limb fetish isn’t comparable to reading 50 Shades of Grey is it.

Really struggle to see how this is wildly different from having your penis lopped off to satisfy an identity delusion? Both are absolutely absurd.

@BettyBooper No dice from MNHQ for me I'm afraid, maybe you could ask for it to be reinstated too? They won't discuss it with me because it wasn't my post but said they can discuss it with you

In one message he said: "It's going to be awesome being a double amputee", which he completed with a picture of his erect penis.

Is this the sort of distress you mean?

I reported my own post above pointing that out and asked mumsnet to reinstate your post. I think we've got a malicious reporter 🙄

I don’t understand what his sexual identity had to do with his offence / this story.

Although it feels alarming to have both gender dysphoria as well as such a weird and dark fetish.

I'm not saying th treatment includes that, just that it likely feels highly distressing for people who experience it.

Sado masochism is a paraphilia. Over 150 million copies of 50 Shades of Grey were sold and overwhelmingly read by women.

Still...

Hopper.

Yeah, nothing is predictable except men's ability to turn literally anything into a fetish

Its almost like we're not showed to look for or refer to patterns.

No, no patterns, nothing is predictable!

The queening of everything 🙄

What's most concerning about this story is that he is a vascular surgeon who has performed limb amputations in the course of his work, with a sexual fetish for limb amputation...

That is beyond grotesque and if you or your family had been operated on by this man you’d be feeling sick to your stomach.

Edited to add that the web is increasingly demonstrating the terrible toll it’s taking on society.

My thoughts exactly.

I read these things and think JKR was ahead of this in her books. It's almost like she took all the 'go and educate yourself ' stuff literally, it's just she learned a little too much.

Well congratulations @BettyBooper you must have said something right! 😬

Yes but this man was in a position of authority which required him to carry out aspects of his fetish on unsuspecting patients as part of his job.
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There are plenty of women with extreme sexual fantasies too. It is not as well known because much of women's porn is text based rather than visual images.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yvpx20le2o

Nope.

Double checked.

The BBC are lame reporting and are still terrified/unwilling to go near anything that suggest poor behaviour from anyone with gender questioning feelings.

How odd? (Not).