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Gender incongruence in surgeon who amputated legs

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ArabellaScott · 04/09/2025 19:20

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/surgeon-neil-hoppers-twisted-world-10476298

'The case of double amputee surgeon Andrew Neil Hopper, who infected his own legs with dry ice so they could be amputated because he had a fetish for amputations has opened a window into a truly bizarre world of dark web pornography and weird sexual fantasies for cut-off limbs and "stumps that look so sexy".
At a sentencing hearing at Truro Crown Court today (Thursday September 4) it was heard how Hopper had throughout his life felt that he was in the wrong body and wanted to be a woman, but could not talk to anyone about it in the small rural village in Wales where he grew up.
The court was told how Hopper went to medical school where met his wife and future mother of his children and confided in her about his gender issues but never to his colleagues for fear he would be cast out out and left isolated. Neither did he confide to anyone about his body integrity disorder and the deep-rooted loathing he had for his legs and feet.'

Inside twisted world of surgeon who fantasised about amputations

A deep-rooted loathing for his legs and feet and truly bizarre world of dark web pornography and weird sexual fantasies for cut-off limbs and 'stumps that look so sexy'

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/surgeon-neil-hoppers-twisted-world-10476298

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cosimarama · 03/08/2026 14:44

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/08/2026 11:15

Culture in the NHS isn't it? All sorts or reasons including power, lack iof sanctions/ consequences, lack of professional curiosity, demands to be kind or else, class, race and of course medical misogyny.
Given the sheer volume of issues (think maternity care scandals, numbers of sexual assaults etc) it's no wonder many of these men operate in plain sight.

And if as the main surgeon he says he’s having trouble with something to make an operation last longer, no one will question it. I wouldn’t be surprised if he found a way to film them too. Could be jumping to conclusions there but who knows...in the article, when he tells the other sicko that he doesn’t need to rewatch mutilations because his tastes had become more “exotic”, what does that mean?

Bobbieiris · 03/08/2026 13:47

I came across this article this morning when I was scrolling through Facebook while eating my breakfast 🤢 there's some very strange people out there....what on earth did he go through as a child to be like that? And the worst thing was taking all that insurance money when he did it to himself! Oh and of course putting his wife and kids though that too.
I guess we could say similar to those people who have really extreme plastic surgery. All very tragic really
@SmugYetSadTimes who is susie green??

PeonyPatch · 03/08/2026 12:53

There definitely needs to be an independent inquiry!!!!

ArabellaScott · 03/08/2026 12:38

I know it's horrible to say it, but it seems highly highly likely this man was deliberately hurting and harming patients in order to derive sexual satisfaction from their suffering.

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lcakethereforeIam · 03/08/2026 12:37

Wasn't there an anaesthetist, possibly in South America, who sexually assaulted women who were under general anaesthetic. I think a nurse got suspicious of him but felt she couldn't report him until she'd caught him red handed.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/08/2026 11:15

RoyalCorgi · 03/08/2026 11:09

You'd hope so. The thing that bothers me is that when someone has surgery, there is a whole surgical team in the theatre. You don't have a surgeon just doing an operation on his own. So surely those people would have known if he was engaged in inappropriate behaviour during surgery or making the operation last twice as long as it should do. Why haven't they come forward?

Culture in the NHS isn't it? All sorts or reasons including power, lack iof sanctions/ consequences, lack of professional curiosity, demands to be kind or else, class, race and of course medical misogyny.
Given the sheer volume of issues (think maternity care scandals, numbers of sexual assaults etc) it's no wonder many of these men operate in plain sight.

RoyalCorgi · 03/08/2026 11:09

ArabellaScott · 03/08/2026 08:38

My god. Those poor people. I wonder if they are able to report him to the police.

You'd hope so. The thing that bothers me is that when someone has surgery, there is a whole surgical team in the theatre. You don't have a surgeon just doing an operation on his own. So surely those people would have known if he was engaged in inappropriate behaviour during surgery or making the operation last twice as long as it should do. Why haven't they come forward?

YoucancallmeAI · 03/08/2026 10:51

OldCrone · 02/08/2026 14:15

who else remembers that guy (I think he was Dutch?) who was not only trans but got about in a wheelchair despite being able bodied?

Chloe/Clive Jennings-White? He's American.

More about him here:
Spinal column: no truck with transableists

Archive link:
https://archive.ph/E8cyc

Edited

Or Jørund Viktoria Alme
www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/23101806.issue-day-able-bodied-norwegian-identifies-disabled-woman/

TrainedByCats · 03/08/2026 10:00

Patients don’t always remember the name of their surgeons. In the nhs you often don’t know your surgeon was, you may have seen the main consultant briefly but you know the surgery is often carried out by a member of their team. Even privately you often forget as the name is generally not relevant to remember after the event.

ArabellaScott · 03/08/2026 09:48

There should 100% be a proper, independent enquiry. This all stinks.

'Bird says his firm has had about 20 serious inquiries from Hopper’s former patients. “There hasn’t been a long line of people saying, ‘I’ve had my limb amputated and I believe it was inappropriately done,’” he tells me; a significant proportion of amputees are elderly, and many of Hopper’s former patients may have already died. “Of those who’ve contacted us, some have felt a sense of betrayal or even a feeling of assault because of what they now think was going on in his mind when he was treating them. They are questioning whether the decisions he made about their treatment were appropriate, whether they were motivated by his own sexual gratification rather than clinical need.” It’s much harder to claim damages for psychological trauma compared with physical injuries. “The law doesn’t always follow reality,” Bird says.

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AMansAManForAllThat · 03/08/2026 09:43

cosimarama · 02/08/2026 22:11

Very important article. One woman was operated on by him for almost twice the expected length of time, dying under two weeks later. Another woman who was in agony during a routine private surgery for vein removal now wonders if he had given her anywhere near enough anaesthetic - and he weirdly waived his fee for her. Who knows how many more stories there are like these.

And no records of it at the hospital apparently.

ArabellaScott · 03/08/2026 08:38

My god. Those poor people. I wonder if they are able to report him to the police.

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cosimarama · 02/08/2026 22:11

Very important article. One woman was operated on by him for almost twice the expected length of time, dying under two weeks later. Another woman who was in agony during a routine private surgery for vein removal now wonders if he had given her anywhere near enough anaesthetic - and he weirdly waived his fee for her. Who knows how many more stories there are like these.

lcakethereforeIam · 02/08/2026 17:40

OldCrone · 02/08/2026 14:15

who else remembers that guy (I think he was Dutch?) who was not only trans but got about in a wheelchair despite being able bodied?

Chloe/Clive Jennings-White? He's American.

More about him here:
Spinal column: no truck with transableists

Archive link:
https://archive.ph/E8cyc

Edited

All those people who get done for fraudulently claiming disability benefits, they actually are suffering from BIID! The DWP should stop being so bigoted towards the trans-disabled.

ArabellaScott · 02/08/2026 14:27

Bakeittillyoumakeit · 02/08/2026 12:08

Are you really suggesting that reading 50 Shades of Grey and having your legs chopped off for sexual kicks are in the same ball park?

If so then there must be something very, very wrong with you.

Why are you so desperate to try and make this about women?

Because reading fantasy romance is just the same as amputating your own legs for kicks. Jesus, that's weak.

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ArabellaScott · 02/08/2026 14:26

AMansAManForAllThat · 02/08/2026 12:01

My God! Honesty. It’s startling.

Well. IMO 'in plain sight' is relevant.

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OldCrone · 02/08/2026 14:15

ChequerToRed · 02/08/2026 12:32

There’s a Blocked & Reported primo episode from last week where Katie Herzog talks about this case, and some of the striking similarities with gender dysphoria. TBH, it does seem to involve a lot of the same metal processes, and is similarly resistant to psychological therapy and medication. She also points out that there’s a signifiant overlap with trans, and though he wasn’t mentioned who else remembers that guy (I think he was Dutch?) who was not only trans but got about in a wheelchair despite being able bodied?

who else remembers that guy (I think he was Dutch?) who was not only trans but got about in a wheelchair despite being able bodied?

Chloe/Clive Jennings-White? He's American.

More about him here:
Spinal column: no truck with transableists

Archive link:
https://archive.ph/E8cyc

ChequerToRed · 02/08/2026 12:32

There’s a Blocked & Reported primo episode from last week where Katie Herzog talks about this case, and some of the striking similarities with gender dysphoria. TBH, it does seem to involve a lot of the same metal processes, and is similarly resistant to psychological therapy and medication. She also points out that there’s a signifiant overlap with trans, and though he wasn’t mentioned who else remembers that guy (I think he was Dutch?) who was not only trans but got about in a wheelchair despite being able bodied?

heathspeedwell · 02/08/2026 12:09

It's sad that it comes as such a surprise when a trans activist is so honest about the consequences of blockers.

We know that hardly any adult men who transition have surgery to invert their penis, so obviously sexual pleasure is extremely important to them. Yet so many of them pretend they would have taken blockers given the chance.

Bakeittillyoumakeit · 02/08/2026 12:08

captainoctopus · 04/09/2025 22:41

Sado masochism is a paraphilia. Over 150 million copies of 50 Shades of Grey were sold and overwhelmingly read by women.

Are you really suggesting that reading 50 Shades of Grey and having your legs chopped off for sexual kicks are in the same ball park?

If so then there must be something very, very wrong with you.

Why are you so desperate to try and make this about women?

AMansAManForAllThat · 02/08/2026 12:01

heathspeedwell · 02/08/2026 11:55

Once good thing about Marci Bowers is that he's quite open about the fact that blockers cause kids to be sterile and inorgasmic.

"On the effects of puberty blockers, Dr. Bowers said, "When you enter a field like this where there's not a lot of published data, not a lot of studies, the field is in its infancy, you see people sometimes selling protocols like puberty blockers in a dogmatic fashion, like, 'This is just what we do.'"
Dr. Bowers said once a child begins the transition process, it's nearly impossible to return to normal.
"You're going to go socially to school as a girl, and you've made this commitment. How do you back out of that?" Bowers said.
In response to Shrier asking Bowers what her stance was on puberty blockers, Dr. Bowers said, "This is typical of medicine. We zig and then we zag, and I think maybe we zigged a little too far to the left in some cases."
"I think there was naivete on the part of pediatric endocrinologists who were proponents of early (puberty) blockade thinking that just this magic can happen, that surgeons can do anything," Dr. Bowers said.
...
"There are definitely people who are trying to keep out anyone who doesn't absolutely buy the party line that everything should be affirming, and that there's no room for dissent," Bowers said. "I think that's a mistake."
"Affirmative care" urges doctors to support patients that believe they are trapped in the wrong body, including young children. It's the idea that the patient knows best. In the past, psychologists treated gender dysphoria with "watchful waiting." This method of psychotherapy sought to understand the root cause of a child's gender dysphoria, attempting to help a child grow comfortable in their own bodies before allowing them to transition.
According to Shrier, Bowers said puberty blockers result in the lack of sexual stimulation, referred to as puberty blockade.
"If you've never had an orgasm pre-surgery, and then your puberty's blocked, it's very difficult to achieve that afterwards," Bowers said. "I consider that a big problem, actually. It's kind of an overlooked problem that in our 'informed consent' of children undergoing puberty blockers, we've in some respects overlooked that a little bit."
"I'm not a fan of blockade... I really am not," Bowers told Shrier. "The idea all sounded good in the very beginning. Believe me, we're doing some magnificent surgeries on these kids, and they're so determined, and I'm so proud of so many of them and their parents. They've been great. But honestly, I can't sit here and tell you that they have better — or even as good — results. They're not as functional. I worry about their reproductive rights later. I worry about their sexual health later and ability to find intimacy."
"My fear about these young children who never experience orgasm prior to undergoing surgery are going to reach adulthood and try to find intimacy and realize they don't know how to respond sexually," Dr. Bowers added.
https://thepostmillennial.com/doctor-jazz-jennings-not-as-functional

My God! Honesty. It’s startling.

heathspeedwell · 02/08/2026 11:55

Once good thing about Marci Bowers is that he's quite open about the fact that blockers cause kids to be sterile and inorgasmic.

"On the effects of puberty blockers, Dr. Bowers said, "When you enter a field like this where there's not a lot of published data, not a lot of studies, the field is in its infancy, you see people sometimes selling protocols like puberty blockers in a dogmatic fashion, like, 'This is just what we do.'"
Dr. Bowers said once a child begins the transition process, it's nearly impossible to return to normal.
"You're going to go socially to school as a girl, and you've made this commitment. How do you back out of that?" Bowers said.
In response to Shrier asking Bowers what her stance was on puberty blockers, Dr. Bowers said, "This is typical of medicine. We zig and then we zag, and I think maybe we zigged a little too far to the left in some cases."
"I think there was naivete on the part of pediatric endocrinologists who were proponents of early (puberty) blockade thinking that just this magic can happen, that surgeons can do anything," Dr. Bowers said.
...
"There are definitely people who are trying to keep out anyone who doesn't absolutely buy the party line that everything should be affirming, and that there's no room for dissent," Bowers said. "I think that's a mistake."
"Affirmative care" urges doctors to support patients that believe they are trapped in the wrong body, including young children. It's the idea that the patient knows best. In the past, psychologists treated gender dysphoria with "watchful waiting." This method of psychotherapy sought to understand the root cause of a child's gender dysphoria, attempting to help a child grow comfortable in their own bodies before allowing them to transition.
According to Shrier, Bowers said puberty blockers result in the lack of sexual stimulation, referred to as puberty blockade.
"If you've never had an orgasm pre-surgery, and then your puberty's blocked, it's very difficult to achieve that afterwards," Bowers said. "I consider that a big problem, actually. It's kind of an overlooked problem that in our 'informed consent' of children undergoing puberty blockers, we've in some respects overlooked that a little bit."
"I'm not a fan of blockade... I really am not," Bowers told Shrier. "The idea all sounded good in the very beginning. Believe me, we're doing some magnificent surgeries on these kids, and they're so determined, and I'm so proud of so many of them and their parents. They've been great. But honestly, I can't sit here and tell you that they have better — or even as good — results. They're not as functional. I worry about their reproductive rights later. I worry about their sexual health later and ability to find intimacy."
"My fear about these young children who never experience orgasm prior to undergoing surgery are going to reach adulthood and try to find intimacy and realize they don't know how to respond sexually," Dr. Bowers added.
https://thepostmillennial.com/doctor-jazz-jennings-not-as-functional

Doctor who operated on Jazz Jennings says children are ‘not as functional’ after transitioning

“This is typical of medicine. We zig and then we zag, and I think maybe we zigged a little too far to the left in some cases,” said Dr. Bowers, who operated on reality tv star Jazz Jennings.

https://thepostmillennial.com/doctor-jazz-jennings-not-as-functional

ArabellaScott · 02/08/2026 11:55

Epstein donated at least $50k to Ting's work.

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ArabellaScott · 02/08/2026 11:53

Jazz Jennings' other surgeon Jess Ting was a guest on Esptein's island.

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ArabellaScott · 02/08/2026 11:51

lcakethereforeIam · 02/08/2026 10:50

There's that male surgeon (tw Marcie...?) who castrated Jennings. Iirc he talked about porn when conducting a physical examination of the poor child. In a jokey way, but still!😨He's made a good, financially and status, career of it.

Marcie Bowers. High head yin in WPATH. President iirc.

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