Serious life ending Sexual assault on a stroke ward

The nurse in charge who made questionable decisions was struck off it seems in 2023 (the assualt happened in 2018). For stealing drugs, drink driving.

https://www.nmc.org.uk/globalassets/sitedocuments/ftpoutcomes/2024/april-2024/reasons-pover-ftpcsm-95399-20240430.pdf

No of course not, I said "probably" not "she was" but she bled significantly which indicates she was likely on blood thinners.

Either way I do not believe there was no evidence to the people supposedly providing care.

Reckon there's loads like that.

Not just same hospital. Same ward. Same male head nurse was charged in the above case. I presume it was this investigation that prompted the post mortem

In reply to the poster who thinks I could do a better job than the police, I'd have a damn good go at it for the sake of poor Valerie and her family. A rapist and murderer hasn't been caught and the man who was in charge of the ward, around the time Valerie was raped murdered, a man who has since been involved in the drugging scandal at the hospital, who openly admits he "doesn't know why" he completely ignored the fact that Valerie was found bleeding profusely and therefore vital evidence was lost, I think I know who I'd be investigating first! The fact that no one has been held accountable for Valerie's rape and murder after a 5 year+ investigation, on a ward full of vulnerable people, where all sorts of criminal activity seems to have been freely taking place, is absolutely appalling.

How do you know she was on blood thinners? You do know there are two types of strokes- on caused by a clot, but you can also have haemorrhagic strokes where the brain bleeds and blood thinners would be catastrophic.

the bleeding happened after death. The PM notes there would not have been bleeding beforehand. There was also no clinical signs of bleeding recorded- BP, pulse etc.

we don’t have the full clinical history from one BBC article.

I responded in this way because your comment was insensitive, disrespectful and condescending.

Omg, that's horrific. Think we should all bombard Wes Streetings inbox today.
Regardless of where we live.
Doing it now!!

So the post mortem was carried out 18 days after poor Valerie's death and the CCTV is only kept for 18 days on the ward.

Is that correct ?

At nearly 70, I was brought up to respect the medical world. Unquestioningly.

Thankfully nothing like this but some very poor treatment.

Male nurse "in disbelief" at hearing of sexual assault claim on hospital ward

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clydydl3n49o.amp

"Mr Pover was also asked about an exchange with a health care assistant who had been asked to clean Mrs Kneale's body shortly after her death.

He said she had told him there was a large amount of blood on the bed which was "too much for someone to deal with", and had asked for assistance.

Another health care assistant then went to help her, the court heard.

Gareth Thompson, representing Mrs Kneale's family, asked Mr Pover why he had not raised the matter with anyone else, saying: "The nurse brought concerns to you. Why didn't you do your job and react to those concerns?"

Mr Pover said he honestly did not know.
He told the inquest that he thought he had underestimated the seriousness of the situation.
"I don't think I computed it as blood," he said.
Mr Pover also said the health care assistant had not appeared "overly upset" about the situation and so he did not appreciate the urgency."

Horrific.

I had the misfortune to be in Singleton hospital a few years ago and the nurses bar one who I only saw occasionally were vile and sadistic.

This is just so shocking, and horrendous on so many levels. Valerie has been utterly failed

I cannot believe her injuries were severe enough to cause internal bleeding to the point of death but no external evidence. No one noticed any external bleeding or injuries. "clotting", yet she was likely on blood thinners which is what would have triggered the bleeding in the first place. Did no one provide any proper care to her? No toileting care? No washes? Did they not change her sheets? No one mentioned her mattress was soaked with blood? Someone must have cleaned it. She was on the ward for 3-4days afterwards.

Not to mention that someone must have done this without anyone else noticing. It's unlikely she was the only patient who this happened to. They only did the post mortem because of the serious other failings on this ward, how many other patients were missed? How many other women have been victims and perhaps don't even know if patients were drugged on this ward?

I’m really glad to hear that. No need to be snippy with me.

This 100%
Whistleblowers, and those who have the nerve to speak up when things go wrong are penalised / punished. Their names get dragged through the mud while the perpetrators and bullies get away with it, they’re not held accountable.
This is why a lot of staff won’t speak up when they see wrongdoing.
How anyone can be a bystander when it comes to something as horrific as this I will never know.

Fucking hell.

My MIL died this year, and the thought of someone doing anything like this to her in her most vulnerable time makes me both incredibly angry and emotional

Is there already a petition?

Oh yes, I didn't think you meant that at all. Sorry, I was just thinking how awful it must be for them given that they were probably worried for her safety anyway.

I plan to write to my MP today and to Wes Streeting.
As a mum in her 50s with teenage children struggling and elderly parents approaching end of life, I am very conscious of the lack of care in our hospitals.
The NHS has got behind the trans movement in such a phenomenal way as evidenced by the NHS Fife tribunal, trending on Mumsnet, that they cannot say they do not have the resources to improve care for the elderly and mentally ill. They lack the desire to do so not the funds.

On a visit to an elderly person’s ward recently, I heard a lady ask for the toilet. There is no doubt that the health care assistants were busy but instead of acknowledging the lady’s request, they ignored her. When I went to them and told them that this lady needed the toilet, they told me that she had a pad. As a result, I did not leave my mother’s side for duration of her stay, other than overnight.
What has happened to some of the people working in the NHS that this is acceptable? What is wrong with the management?
I agree with a previous poster who said that we need to take the NHS off its pedestal and acknowledge the dire situation that it is in

But Nurses Are Angels 😇

Having complained to pals about a situation with a close relative in hospital, staff absolutely do protect their own.

been following the Valerie case on the local news. It was only discovered by accident. i thought there would be some cctv footage for the day she died but seemingly not. No one saw anything or anyone. Appalling failure that seemingly was brushed away

The faces of evil.

Cross posted with this - look at the dates. Those nurses were on the stroke ward, outed by a student nurse in November 2018 - that whistleblowing student nurse prompted the police coming in, clearly. That was what prompted them to investigate in the first place.

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