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Serious life ending Sexual assault on a stroke ward

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mrshoho · 04/09/2025 09:44

Stroke 'played no part' in Blackpool hospital patient's death - BBC News https://share.google/E1kG2EjcGHJWiPXvA

Omfg. This is just horrendous. This poor woman. Bled to death on a stroke ward following a sexual assault on the ward. What on earth?

Valerie Kneale, with shoulder-length grey curly hair, wears a pink, lilac and green floral blouse as she is photographed in a garden. She is standing in front of a pebble-dashed house with a white plastic door and windows.

Stroke 'played no part' in Blackpool hospital patient's death

Valerie Kneale's inquest is told she died because of a "forcible sexual assault" while in hospital.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy9neq9e7qqo

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kittykarate · 04/09/2025 11:31

Not wanting to be indelicate - did no-one take any care of this ladies toilet needs between the incident and her death? I mean, she was likely on anti clotting medication so I can't see how clotting would have kept the blood hidden. I feel like they basically jammed her in incontinence pants overnight to cut down on those annoying buzzers and didn't change them once she went 'end of life'.

HappierTimesAhead · 04/09/2025 11:31

helpfulperson · 04/09/2025 11:24

This is appalling but i'm not sure why everyone is presuming it was a staff member. It could well have been a visitor which would be considerably harder to identify as no record is kept. Or someone posing as a visitor.

I am assuming it because a healthcare professional was arrested in connection with it and because the ward was rife with nurses drugging patients and stealing drugs.

Cardinalita90 · 04/09/2025 11:29

Its absolutely appalling. It's obvious it was covered up because the staff on that ward were routinely stealing drugs and two of them were jailed for drugging patients for an easy life. Apparently it was pervasive. Reporting the assault would have led to that can of worms being opened so they covered it up.

There was also a male staff member from that ward jailed for sexually assaulting colleagues. Seems a massive coincidence for two sex offenders to be working on the same wing.

Mustbethat · 04/09/2025 11:28

helpfulperson · 04/09/2025 11:24

This is appalling but i'm not sure why everyone is presuming it was a staff member. It could well have been a visitor which would be considerably harder to identify as no record is kept. Or someone posing as a visitor.

honestly chuck on a white coat and walk confidently and unlikely you’ll be questioned. Or a porters uniform

HarrietBond · 04/09/2025 11:27

Her family was with her at all times other than one overnight. So it would need to be someone with access at night. If someone who was not a staff member could access the ward at that time then it’s a serious safeguarding and security issue in itself.

helpfulperson · 04/09/2025 11:24

This is appalling but i'm not sure why everyone is presuming it was a staff member. It could well have been a visitor which would be considerably harder to identify as no record is kept. Or someone posing as a visitor.

Rickyrainfrogcroaks · 04/09/2025 11:24

It needs reopening and on the news ,with a new team looking at evidence
You should be safe in hospital

LoveItaly · 04/09/2025 11:21

IOSTT · 04/09/2025 10:34

Just read the article, so awful, and it sounds likely a staff member assaulted her and then downplayed the amount of blood when she had died 😔

My thoughts too, as it is hard enough for visitors to get on wards during the day, let alone at night. Plus staff usually need to let you out when you want to leave.

HappierTimesAhead · 04/09/2025 11:21

MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/09/2025 11:11

There's a massive history of abuse and neglect at this hospital. Two nurses jailed for abusing patients on this ward. They and others convicted of stealing drugs from the hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67706765

A male healthcare professional was arrested on suspicion of rape, murder and sexual assault but subsequently released and no charges ever laid.

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/blackpool-stroke-patient-75-died-20571934

Don't suppose the NHS have taken any action against senior staff overseeing this shocking situation. They never seem to, Suggests yet another NHS cover up.

So the police did arrest someone in connection with this but they were later released as not enough evidence?

The stuff going on in this ward is horrifying

Miraclesforme · 04/09/2025 11:21

That is horrific, that poor lady

Mustbethat · 04/09/2025 11:20

MadameCholetsDirtySecret · 04/09/2025 11:14

This screams of coverup. Locard’s principle would suggest that the perpetrator would have left some physical evidence after such a horrific attack and likely to have been blood spattered afterwards, but no evidence or any witnesses were found. Do they think we are stupid?

Why would they be blood spattered? The bbc report/PM stated the blood loss happened after death.

There may well be physical evidence recovered. But until it can be matched to an individual it sits in evidence.

Rickyrainfrogcroaks · 04/09/2025 11:19

Meanwhile the police arrest people for comments on Facebook
Fucking disgrace this government

TonTonMacoute · 04/09/2025 11:19

Mustbethat · 04/09/2025 11:05

I don’t think it’s that simple. The police have said they’ve exhausted every line of enquiry- the delay in discovering the death wasn’t due to the stroke, which meant the body won’t have been forensically preserved etc, will mean much of the evidence was lost.

not so much can’t be arsed but a series of failures have led to not being able to find out who did it.

sometimes if the evidence isn’t there it isn’t there. My neighbour is a csi and I know how frustrated they get when they’ve spent weeks/months, even years on a case to come up blank. Only for social media to then come up with “oh they just couldn’t be arsed”.

I wasn't blaming the police.

Thisweeksdrama · 04/09/2025 11:19

Mustbethat · 04/09/2025 11:10

not weird. Chances are an active ongoing investigation details can’t be published. If they had have found a suspect they need to be really careful the case isn’t prejudiced by too much information being published.

people always jump to “the police didn’t do nowt” when they can’t publish every minute action. To start a lot of investigative tactics are not public so the criminals aren’t given a masterclass in the daily mail on how to avoid detection.

Right - that makes sense. Although I wasn't really suggesting that police were sitting on their laurels, just surprised I've read nothing at all about this case until now.

Rickyrainfrogcroaks · 04/09/2025 11:19

Could not

Rickyrainfrogcroaks · 04/09/2025 11:18

That could any of us ,any of your mum's or daughters
I can't believe they could catch the killer ,was there no DNA or cctv

Dancingsquirrels · 04/09/2025 11:14

This happened in 2018. Why did the inquest only happen now? What potential harm has come to patients since 2018?

MadameCholetsDirtySecret · 04/09/2025 11:14

This screams of coverup. Locard’s principle would suggest that the perpetrator would have left some physical evidence after such a horrific attack and likely to have been blood spattered afterwards, but no evidence or any witnesses were found. Do they think we are stupid?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/09/2025 11:11

There's a massive history of abuse and neglect at this hospital. Two nurses jailed for abusing patients on this ward. They and others convicted of stealing drugs from the hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67706765

A male healthcare professional was arrested on suspicion of rape, murder and sexual assault but subsequently released and no charges ever laid.

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/blackpool-stroke-patient-75-died-20571934

Don't suppose the NHS have taken any action against senior staff overseeing this shocking situation. They never seem to, Suggests yet another NHS cover up.

Catherine Hudson and Charlotte Wilmot

Blackpool nurse and colleague jailed over drugging patients

Catherine Hudson, 54, and Charlotte Wilmot, 48, conspired to unlawfully drug a patient at a hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67706765

Mustbethat · 04/09/2025 11:10

Thisweeksdrama · 04/09/2025 11:05

Jeez, this is absolutely appalling, poor woman. But also just incredibly weird that this is only coming to light now.

not weird. Chances are an active ongoing investigation details can’t be published. If they had have found a suspect they need to be really careful the case isn’t prejudiced by too much information being published.

people always jump to “the police didn’t do nowt” when they can’t publish every minute action. To start a lot of investigative tactics are not public so the criminals aren’t given a masterclass in the daily mail on how to avoid detection.

Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 04/09/2025 11:09

This is the same hospital happening at the same time.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67706765

My dad was a patient there in 2010, when we made enquires as to how he was doing we were told his lung operation had gone well. Oh, well that's odd since he's there for heart bypass. He was also sent home with somebody else's meds.

Mustbethat · 04/09/2025 11:05

TonTonMacoute · 04/09/2025 11:00

So, let me get this straight, because I'm really struggling here, a violent rapist and sexual abuser can gain access to vulnerable patients in hospital - more than likely works at the hospital - and no one can be arsed to find out who did it!?

I don’t think it’s that simple. The police have said they’ve exhausted every line of enquiry- the delay in discovering the death wasn’t due to the stroke, which meant the body won’t have been forensically preserved etc, will mean much of the evidence was lost.

not so much can’t be arsed but a series of failures have led to not being able to find out who did it.

sometimes if the evidence isn’t there it isn’t there. My neighbour is a csi and I know how frustrated they get when they’ve spent weeks/months, even years on a case to come up blank. Only for social media to then come up with “oh they just couldn’t be arsed”.

MyrtleLion · 04/09/2025 11:05

And I just know that TRAs will use this case to say that women are assaulted by men who don’t identify as women, so men who do so identify are not a danger.

Thisweeksdrama · 04/09/2025 11:05

Jeez, this is absolutely appalling, poor woman. But also just incredibly weird that this is only coming to light now.

tommyhoundmum · 04/09/2025 11:04

mrshoho · 04/09/2025 10:04

This beautiful woman, Valerie Kneale, so loved by her family who barely left her side while she was in that hospital. I will be writing to Wes Streeting. This shows just how unsafe hospitals are in this day and age. With all our cctv, security and monitoring. Surely the hospital should investigate all staff who had access in the short period. Everyone who had access to the ward should be investigated. If someone could do such a horrific assault they have probably previously done it and will go on doing it.

If you do write to Wes Streeting go through your local MP as you are more likely to get a considered response that way.

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