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"Trans identified male" - there's hope for the BBC yet

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Charabanc · 03/09/2025 15:25

Oh dear, the transes are very upset about this. They're all "sad times" and "literal genocide".

I heard this phrase on the Radio 4 news yesterday. And here it is in black and white, on the BBC news report. This would never have happened a year ago, when TWWstillW.

The first post, from his X feed, called it a "violent, abusive act" for a trans-identified male to be in a female-only space. He suggested: "Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails punch him in the balls."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2922w73e1o

Linehan outside court in May, looking at the camera wearing glasses and a white T shirt.

Free speech laws need to be reviewed after Linehan arrest, says Streeting

The health secretary says ministers wanted police to focus on street crime rather than posts on social media.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2922w73e1o

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Ihavetoask · 04/09/2025 05:54

I'd not set too much by this theory at all. They quoted him.

orangegato · 04/09/2025 05:52

This latest Glinner debacle has at least rammed the term ‘trans identified male’ down a few more people’s throats and is now what some people will call those men instead of ‘trans women’. It boils my piss them appropriating the word women but they can have the word TIM. Baby steps.

WTDress · 04/09/2025 05:44

Why is it that when we tell TRAs that the term “cis woman” is a slur they dismiss it as a “statement of fact”, yet trans identifying woman is slur akin to racism/anti semitism according to them, and “literal genocide”
They are fucking nuts.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 03/09/2025 21:25

Charabanc · 03/09/2025 15:26

Complaints are being made.

https://bsky.app/profile/transsafety.network/post/3lxwq7rubrk23

Oh boo bloody hoo.

Anderson Cooper Crying GIF
ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2025 20:19

oh to have been a fly on the wall as they realised their transgression😂

Some hapless individual will have had a lesson on the all-important difference between a literal quote and just using the same words.

It was disappointingly predictable but at least the quote may start to instil reality into a few more people’s minds.

EyesOpening · 03/09/2025 20:12

bonfireoftheverities · 03/09/2025 18:03

It has indeed been changed, with the whole thing now in quotes. Archive of the way it was before: https://archive.ph/l1NBQ

It's as amazing just how much of that article was in quotation marks but that bit wasn't!

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2025 19:55

BackToLurk · 03/09/2025 19:00

Do we have a time for the change, for the sweep

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The piece says it was updated 6 hours ago but that’s before this thread started and it had the other version then, obviously.Confused

TheBeaTgoeson1 · 03/09/2025 19:37

Yes, I stand by what I said. Cheers.

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Charabanc · 03/09/2025 19:31

TheBeaTgoeson1 · 03/09/2025 19:09

Is ‘trans identified male’ not a quote from his tweet though?

Pls read the previous few posts.

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TheBeaTgoeson1 · 03/09/2025 19:09

Is ‘trans identified male’ not a quote from his tweet though?

BackToLurk · 03/09/2025 19:00

bonfireoftheverities · 03/09/2025 18:03

It has indeed been changed, with the whole thing now in quotes. Archive of the way it was before: https://archive.ph/l1NBQ

Do we have a time for the change, for the sweep

GallantKumquat · 03/09/2025 18:57

ginasevern · 03/09/2025 16:22

"Yes. They were his words. And now they are the BBC's words as well."

I'm confused. Those were Graham's words and the reporter was just repeating them. So does the same apply whenever the BBC quotes anyone (Trump or Putin for example). Do their words also become the words of the BBC?

In the original, the BBC used a closely following indirect quote to improve flow which invoked the same TIM formulation that Glinner had used in the direct quote. 🥀🥀 naughty, naughty. 😡 They've now changed it to a direct quote, bringing the sentence into compliance with the strictures of TRA political correctness. 🧐

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The first post, from his X feed, called it a "violent, abusive act" for a trans-identified male to be in a female-only space. He suggested: "Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails punch him in the balls."

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The first post, from his X feed, said: "If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls."

bonfireoftheverities · 03/09/2025 18:03

It has indeed been changed, with the whole thing now in quotes. Archive of the way it was before: https://archive.ph/l1NBQ

ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird · 03/09/2025 16:51

I'm pretty sure they will add the hazchem protection gloves (aka quote marks).

The Guardian has worn the same gloves.

Justme56 · 03/09/2025 16:37

Do they really think changing it to transwoman sounds better considering the topic in the tweet is about testicles?

ginasevern · 03/09/2025 16:33

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2025 16:31

only words within quotation marks are quotes. Echoing the terms someone uses outside of quotes implies acceptance of those terms.

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Ah, OK.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2025 16:31

ginasevern · 03/09/2025 16:22

"Yes. They were his words. And now they are the BBC's words as well."

I'm confused. Those were Graham's words and the reporter was just repeating them. So does the same apply whenever the BBC quotes anyone (Trump or Putin for example). Do their words also become the words of the BBC?

only words within quotation marks are quotes. Echoing the terms someone uses outside of quotes implies acceptance of those terms.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/09/2025 16:25

My bet would be they reword it as a direct quote.

ginasevern · 03/09/2025 16:22

"Yes. They were his words. And now they are the BBC's words as well."

I'm confused. Those were Graham's words and the reporter was just repeating them. So does the same apply whenever the BBC quotes anyone (Trump or Putin for example). Do their words also become the words of the BBC?

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Charabanc · 03/09/2025 15:50

Helleofabore · 03/09/2025 15:49

Ahh... but I wonder if they will delete that quote?

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It's not a "quote". That's the point.

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Helleofabore · 03/09/2025 15:49

Charabanc · 03/09/2025 15:42

No. They're not in quotes. That's what riling the TIMs.

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Ahh... but I wonder if they will delete that quote?

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Charabanc · 03/09/2025 15:47

Yes. They were his words. And now they are the BBC's words as well.

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Shortshriftandlethal · 03/09/2025 15:44

Charabanc · 03/09/2025 15:42

No. They're not in quotes. That's what riling the TIMs.

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The first post, from his X feed, called it a "violent, abusive act" for a trans-identified male to be in a female-only space. He suggested: "Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails punch him in the balls."

They might not have put the whole thing in speech marks...but those were Graham's words.

BackToLurk · 03/09/2025 15:44

Helleofabore · 03/09/2025 15:38

Oh wow.

And I wonder how long before it is changed. I reckon it will have changed by 5 pm.

If there's a sweep I'll take 4.47

BackToLurk · 03/09/2025 15:43

Charabanc · 03/09/2025 15:34

Indeed. And what they're fewmin about is that it's a BBC journalistic expression, not a quote from the antiChrist Glinner.

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That's the term Glinner used. If the BBC had used 'man' then trans activists would have complained that the journalist had ignored the fact that this was aimed at 'transpeople' specifically. If the BBC had used 'transwomen' then the activists would have to accept that everyone understands transwomen and trans-identifying males to be one and the same. The BBC have gone with the easy option. Ain't no pleasing them, as Chas and Dave said