Page 8 | JKR asking similar questions to what I have been asking for years on here.

DialSquare · 2025-09-01T11:11:35+00:00

Copied from Nitter [[https://nitter.poast.org/jk_rowling J.K. Rowling@jk_rowling]][[https://nitter.poast.org/jk_rowling/status/1962462273496023476#m 29m]] *As another man who once worked with me declares himself saddened by my beliefs on gender and sex, I thought it might be useful to compile a list for handy reference. Which of the following do you imagine makes actors and directors who aren’t involved with the HBO reboot of Harry Potter so miserable?* *Is it my belief that women and girls should have their own public changing rooms and bathrooms?* *That women should retain female-only rape crisis centres?* *That men don’t belong in women’s sport?* *That female prisoners shouldn’t be incarcerated with violent men and male sex offenders?* *That women should remain a protected class in law, because they have sex-specific needs and issues?* *That language should reflect reality rather than ideological jargon, especially in a medical context?* *That women shouldn’t be harassed, persecuted or fired for refusing to pretend humans can change sex?* *That women should not be threatened with violence and rape when they assert their rights?* *That freedom of speech and belief are essential to a pluralistic democratic society?* *That troubled minors, especially those who are gay, autistic and trauma-experienced, should be given mental health support instead of irreversible surgeries and drug treatments on non-existent evidence of benefit?* *That gay people shouldn’t be pressured to include the opposite sex in their dating pools, nor should they be smeared as ‘genital fetishists’ when they don’t?* *That cross-dressing heterosexual male fetishists aren’t actually oppressed, but having the time of their lives piggybacking off gender identity ideology?* *That said ideology, and the privileged, blinkered fools pushing it because they suffer zero consequences themselves, have done more damage to the political left’s credibility than Trump and Farage could have achieved in a century?* *Let me have your thoughts.* This sums up the views of the majority of posters on this board, however, we often have other posters tell us they don’t agree with us, but never what views they don’t actually agree with. So, those of you that don’t agree with the majority view on here, what is it about the above that you don’t agree with?

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:02

The UK police themselves admit that the way they record the data creates "hate" crimes.
Once the officer hears "trans" she/he had been instructed to record any crime against that person under a code which auto-classed the crime as a hate crime
So 2 NDN are fighing over when a bin is blocking a parking space both involved in a breach of the peace. No hate crime involved unless one says I am trans. If that happens the police data gets skewed.

Oh sure they do….😂
However you try to spin it doesn't change that 'violence' is an actual metric. See charts.

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:01

Here you go, I'll do your work for you….
"The microsystem refers to transphobic interactions between individuals. In 2018, more than half of young trans respondents to a national Stonewall survey had experienced a hate crime in the past year 22]. Since then, estimates of police-reported transphobic hate crimes have increased by 200% 23]. Hate crimes based on gender minority status are more likely to involve enacted or threatened physical violence than crimes motivated by other minoritised characteristics 23]. Moreover, the results from a TransActual UK survey demonstrated that interpersonal transphobia is alarmingly commonplace, with experiences of transphobia from strangers (e.g., on public transport or when accessing goods and services), colleagues and family, each reported by a majority of respondents 21]."
being a sex realist is considered transphobic. Believing that women’s sports belong to biological women only is considered transphobic. Believing that JK Rowling is a thoughtful philanthropist and not a hateful bigot is considered transphobic. Excuse me if I find these “surveys” a complete joke.

Um the quote specifies:

"Hate crimes based on gender minority status are more likely to involve enacted or threatened physical violence than crimes motivated by other minoritised characteristics"

AnSolas · 02/09/2025 09:01

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/09/2025 08:25

In 2018, more than half of young trans respondents to a national Stonewall survey had experienced a hate crime in the past year.

Well that's not self-selecting at all, is it?

Or based on what the respondent perceives to be a hate crime, as opposed to something actually recognised as a crime?

Not to mention the fact that trans people are one of the super special groups of people who can be victims of a hate crime, i.e. a crime committed against them is considered more serious than the same crime committed against the rest of us mere mortals.

Spray painting "I hate trannies" on a trans person's front door is a hate crime, but raping, murdering and dismembering a woman and then telling the police that you did it because you hate women is not.

Somewhat unsurprisingly, a group which can, as a matter of law, experience a hate crime is going to report a much higher incidence of hate crimes than a group which is not recognised as deserving any such special consideration in law. Funny, that.

I really resent the idea that a crime committed against me is automatically considered less serious than the same crime committed against that prick India Willoughby.

Edited

Show quote history

The UK police themselves admit that the way they record the data creates "hate" crimes.

Once the officer hears "trans" she/he had been instructed to record any crime against that person under a code which auto-classed the crime as a hate crime

So 2 NDN are fighing over when a bin is blocking a parking space both involved in a breach of the peace. No hate crime involved unless one says I am trans. If that happens the police data gets skewed.

OldCrone · 02/09/2025 08:58

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:53

Again it doesn't actually list the offences. And further, it states; "the figures for disability and transgender hate crime were lower."

Wrong.

Being reduced is irrelevant to proving their existence which was the context of this discusiion.

Figure 2.8: Percentage of selected offences resulting in charge/summons, by hate crime strand, offences recorded in the year ending March 2023, England and Wales, 30 forces

Source: Police recorded crime, Home Office Data Hub

Note results split into "violence against person, public order offences & Criminal damage"

Edited

Who committed these hate crimes? Was it women who don't believe that people can change sex or was it men?

I know the answer to that without seeing any statistics or surveys. Perpetrators of these crimes are almost all male. Why don't you pop over to a male dominated forum (lots to choose from) and tell them to be more kind and accepting to trans people?

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 08:58

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:55

Yes but WHAT ARE YOU COMPARING THIS AGAINST?
Most people are not considered special enough to have a hate crime committed against them.
There is no data about the rate of equivalent crimes committed against women. (You know, the boring, female kind.)

The context of the discussion now was regarding whether trans people faced violence. Read the thread & try & keep up.

whether trans people faced violence

Anyone can face violence. Anyone. The issue is whether males face greater violence and sexual assault than females. And facts show they don't. And that males commit the majority of sexual offences, and the majority of victims of sexual offence are females.

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:57

Legally it would be helpful to define gender identity in law, but since we can't do this without using vague ideas in someone's head and sexist stereotypes this is pretty difficult.
Legally it would be helpful to define a hate crime as something other than correctly sexing a human being when it's entirely appropriate for safeguarding and privacy/dignity reasons aka human rights.
I guess when you live in a country which doesn't respect the human rights of women to the point that sex has been erased from the dictionary that might be hard to understand.
Fortunately we live in a country which retains to dictionary without pomo bollocks and has a law that recognises that trans people loose legal protection if you erase sex, because you can't identify the transpeople OR the women OR the lesbians and they don't live in it.
That must hurt to know sex exists and keeps on existing and you can't stop it. Hateful reality. Hateful biology. Hateful women who go about womaning at males.
Oh dear what a shame.

Seems you don't know your own laws. Why am I not surprised…

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 08:56

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:53

Again it doesn't actually list the offences. And further, it states; "the figures for disability and transgender hate crime were lower."

Wrong.

Being reduced is irrelevant to proving their existence which was the context of this discusiion.

Figure 2.8: Percentage of selected offences resulting in charge/summons, by hate crime strand, offences recorded in the year ending March 2023, England and Wales, 30 forces

Source: Police recorded crime, Home Office Data Hub

Note results split into "violence against person, public order offences & Criminal damage"

Edited

Wrong.

It's very relevant that transgender hate crime is lower. Even though I know you hate that fact.

And those offences could be anything. It doesn't list whether it's rape, physical or sexual assault, etc "violence against person" could be anything. As could "public order offences" and "criminal damage".

totalrocket · 02/09/2025 08:55

I do think generally that in politics a quick visual tick list of yes/no of what I believe would cut out so much bluster and bullshit. How many people when asked the direct questions (should males who now believe they are females be in women’s prisons for example…)are by the definition of terfs, complete terfs.

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:55

Yes but WHAT ARE YOU COMPARING THIS AGAINST?
Most people are not considered special enough to have a hate crime committed against them.
There is no data about the rate of equivalent crimes committed against women. (You know, the boring, female kind.)

The context of the discussion now was regarding whether trans people faced violence. Read the thread & try & keep up.

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:53

Again it doesn't actually list the offences. And further, it states; "the figures for disability and transgender hate crime were lower."

Wrong.

Being reduced is irrelevant to proving their existence which was the context of this discusiion.

Figure 2.8: Percentage of selected offences resulting in charge/summons, by hate crime strand, offences recorded in the year ending March 2023, England and Wales, 30 forces

Source: Police recorded crime, Home Office Data Hub

Note results split into "violence against person, public order offences & Criminal damage"

AnSolas · 02/09/2025 08:52

Helleofabore · 02/09/2025 08:24

And this link keeps being posted by a poster who repeatedly dismisses other statistics for being ‘not significant’.

Show quote history

Yep
Sexual assault of girls has to be more than 1+n

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 08:52

Helleofabore · 02/09/2025 08:50

“Cooker”

The personal attacks just keep coming.

He's trying to use Australian terms but was called out originally for using American terms. He's now switched to using Australian terms but still, rather tellingly, using American sources and an American online dictionary. He can't hide the fact he's an American.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/09/2025 08:51

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:29

A woman saying 'no' to a male is considered a 'hate crime'. A strange look to a transwoman is considered a 'hate crime'. There is zero evidence there has been any increase in assaults on transwomen. In fact, the increase has been transwomen/TRA physical assaults on females. A 'survey' of transwomen being upset that females so no to them or do a double take look is not evidence of an increase in assault or 'hate'.

Oh dear, check out the police recorded violence stat agains trans! Hope you're proud of yourselves!
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-and-wales-2022-to-2023/hate-crime-england-and-wales-2022-to-2023

You walked into that one…😂

Yes but WHAT ARE YOU COMPARING THIS AGAINST?

Most people are not considered special enough to have a hate crime committed against them.

There is no data about the rate of equivalent crimes committed against women. (You know, the boring, female kind.)

If the hate crime legislation actually extended to all nine protected characteristics in the Equality Act rather than only five, I'm willing to bet that there would be more recorded hate crimes committed by trans people against other groups than against trans people.

RedToothBrush · 02/09/2025 08:51

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 08:42

With no reference to what 'hate crime' it was.

Zero data and zero relevance. You're getting desperate now.

Show quote history

Legally it would be helpful to define gender identity in law, but since we can't do this without using vague ideas in someone's head and sexist stereotypes this is pretty difficult.

Legally it would be helpful to define a hate crime as something other than correctly sexing a human being when it's entirely appropriate for safeguarding and privacy/dignity reasons aka human rights.

I guess when you live in a country which doesn't respect the human rights of women to the point that sex has been erased from the dictionary that might be hard to understand.

Fortunately we live in a country which retains to dictionary without pomo bollocks and has a law that recognises that trans people loose legal protection if you erase sex, because you can't identify the transpeople OR the women OR the lesbians and they don't live in it.

That must hurt to know sex exists and keeps on existing and you can't stop it. Hateful reality. Hateful biology. Hateful women who go about womaning at males.

Oh dear what a shame.

Helleofabore · 02/09/2025 08:50

“Cooker”

The personal attacks just keep coming.

chrith · 02/09/2025 08:49

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:16

Here you go, I'll do your work for you….

"The microsystem refers to transphobic interactions between individuals. In 2018, more than half of young trans respondents to a national Stonewall survey had experienced a hate crime in the past year 22]. Since then, estimates of police-reported transphobic hate crimes have increased by 200% 23]. Hate crimes based on gender minority status are more likely to involve enacted or threatened physical violence than crimes motivated by other minoritised characteristics 23]. Moreover, the results from a TransActual UK survey demonstrated that interpersonal transphobia is alarmingly commonplace, with experiences of transphobia from strangers (e.g., on public transport or when accessing goods and services), colleagues and family, each reported by a majority of respondents 21]."

being a sex realist is considered transphobic. Believing that women’s sports belong to biological women only is considered transphobic. Believing that JK Rowling is a thoughtful philanthropist and not a hateful bigot is considered transphobic. Excuse me if I find these “surveys” a complete joke.

Datun · 02/09/2025 08:49

Helleofabore · 02/09/2025 08:46

Well, fuck. I am convinced!

A self selecting survey with non- existent hygiene around accuracy of answers is obviously very compelling.

Considering we know already that people with trangender identities report stickers and misgendering as ‘hate crimes’ if you read their social media, of course that Stonewall survey is going to be very compelling stuff to generate stats that can be just as misused as turning the 369 trans people vs 435 061 people into “Transgender people are over four times more likely than cisgender people to experience violent victimization, including rape, sexual assault, and aggravated or simple assault” (Note the “INCLUDING”).

Yep. Stickering and misgendering in a self selecting survey. But sure the crimes against this group are certainly not being mischaracterised and cataatrophised for effect at all….

Plus

Important Considerations

Perception-Based:
The initial recording of a hate crime relies on the perception of the victim or witness, which is a focus of current police guidance.

AnSolas · 02/09/2025 08:48

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:13

Can you show me your evidence please.
A list would be useful particularly in the U.K.
Not anything you have mentioned before from other countries.

Howabout this good enough?

"The microsystem refers to transphobic interactions between individuals. In 2018, more than half of young trans respondents to a national Stonewall survey had experienced a hate crime in the past year 22]. Since then, estimates of police-reported transphobic hate crimes have increased by 200% 23]. Hate crimes based on gender minority status are more likely to involve enacted or threatened physical violence than crimes motivated by other minoritised characteristics 23]. Moreover, the results from a TransActual UK survey demonstrated that interpersonal transphobia is alarmingly commonplace, with experiences of transphobia from strangers (e.g., on public transport or when accessing goods and services), colleagues and family, each reported by a majority of respondents 21]."

https://equityhealthj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12939-025-02509-z#:~:text=The%20microsystem%20refers%20to%20transphobic,majority%20of%20respondents%20%5B21%5D.

Wow….

Toilets

Toilets you are trying to wedge men into womens toilets

Try looking at the police data (by force etc) of attacks or use your friend google for evidence of why your demand that men should not use the mens should result in women have to use mixed sex toilet.

Helleofabore · 02/09/2025 08:46

Well, fuck. I am convinced!

A self selecting survey with non- existent hygiene around accuracy of answers is obviously very compelling.

Considering we know already that people with trangender identities report stickers and misgendering as ‘hate crimes’ if you read their social media, of course that Stonewall survey is going to be very compelling stuff to generate stats that can be just as misused as turning the 369 trans people vs 435 061 people into “Transgender people are over four times more likely than cisgender people to experience violent victimization, including rape, sexual assault, and aggravated or simple assault” (Note the “INCLUDING”).

Yep. Stickering and misgendering in a self selecting survey. But sure the crimes against this group are certainly not being mischaracterised and cataatrophised for effect at all….

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 08:45

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:43

"It doesn't list what these so-called 'hate crimes' are. So another one of your meaningless links with zero data. 🙄"

Oh yes it does:

Figure 2.8: Percentage of selected offences resulting in charge/summons, by hate crime strand, offences recorded in the year ending March 2023, England and Wales, 30 forces

Again it doesn't actually list the offences. And further, it states; "the figures for disability and transgender hate crime were lower."

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:43

"It doesn't list what these so-called 'hate crimes' are. So another one of your meaningless links with zero data. 🙄"

Oh yes it does:

Figure 2.8: Percentage of selected offences resulting in charge/summons, by hate crime strand, offences recorded in the year ending March 2023, England and Wales, 30 forces

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 08:42

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:37

"Well that's not self-selecting at all, is it?

Or based on what the respondent perceives to be a hate crime, as opposed to something actually recognised as a crime?

Does the same go for women reporting sexual assault too? See where this goes Einstein?

Not to mention the fact that trans people are one of the super special groups of people who can be victims of a hate crime, i.e. a crime committed against them is considered more serious than the same crime committed against the rest of us mere mortals.
Spray painting "I hate trannies" on a trans person's front door is a hate crime, but raping, murdering and dismembering a woman and then telling the police that you did it because you hate women is not.
Somewhat unsurprisingly, a group which can, as a matter of law, experience a hate crime is going to report a much higher incidence of hate crimes than a group which is not recognised as deserving any such special consideration in law. Funny, that.
I really resent the idea that a crime committed against me is automatically considered less serious than the same crime committed against that prick India Willoughby."

Oh dear, check out the police recorded violence graph for trans! God save the UK?
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-and-wales-2022-to-2023/hate-crime-england-and-wales-2022-to-2023

With no reference to what 'hate crime' it was.

Zero data and zero relevance. You're getting desperate now.

RedToothBrush · 02/09/2025 08:42

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

So you've spent all day harassing women who are mainly on the other side of the world because you've got a chip on your shoulder about the UK having it's own political discourse and independent and you don't like it.

And you are still a creep who thinks women and girls should be collateral damage and should be raped so that transwomen can get everything they want?

It's not sounding any better mate.

And guess what. Our law still says transwomen are men despite your desperate attempts to intimidate, smear and deride us. And it will be the same when you wake up again in the morning.

Every time you speak to accuse us of hate, you help with the process of solidifying our law because all your doing is showing up just how much this movement has in common with incelism.

Transwomen are men and transcels are incels.

Do carry on.

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:37

"Well that's not self-selecting at all, is it?

Or based on what the respondent perceives to be a hate crime, as opposed to something actually recognised as a crime?

Does the same go for women reporting sexual assault too? See where this goes Einstein?

Not to mention the fact that trans people are one of the super special groups of people who can be victims of a hate crime, i.e. a crime committed against them is considered more serious than the same crime committed against the rest of us mere mortals.
Spray painting "I hate trannies" on a trans person's front door is a hate crime, but raping, murdering and dismembering a woman and then telling the police that you did it because you hate women is not.
Somewhat unsurprisingly, a group which can, as a matter of law, experience a hate crime is going to report a much higher incidence of hate crimes than a group which is not recognised as deserving any such special consideration in law. Funny, that.
I really resent the idea that a crime committed against me is automatically considered less serious than the same crime committed against that prick India Willoughby."

Oh dear, check out the police recorded violence graph for trans! God save the UK?
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-and-wales-2022-to-2023/hate-crime-england-and-wales-2022-to-2023

Hate crime, England and Wales, 2022 to 2023 second edition

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-and-wales-2022-to-2023/hate-crime-england-and-wales-2022-to-2023

AnSolas · 02/09/2025 08:34

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 07:25

See, this is the problem with trans activists. They reference a second hand and third hand source, such as 'vox', which gives their own interpretation of what JK said. Vox will say this is what she said, "BUT this is what she really meant."
You never go straight to the ACTUAL SOURCE, JK herself, her own words. Instead, you rely on someone else's words, twisting what JK said. Give us a link straight to JK's....own....words. Not someone else's manipulative interpretation of it.
HER.....OWN.....TWEETS. HER.....OWN....WORDS. Not someone else's article. HER OWN WORDS AND TWEETS. Without an interpretation.

Lol, can you even read? The quotes & links are all in the piece.🤡

Personal abuse to cover lack of substance