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JKR asking similar questions to what I have been asking for years on here.

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DialSquare · 01/09/2025 12:11

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J.K. Rowling@jk_rowling29m
As another man who once worked with me declares himself saddened by my beliefs on gender and sex, I thought it might be useful to compile a list for handy reference. Which of the following do you imagine makes actors and directors who aren’t involved with the HBO reboot of Harry Potter so miserable?

Is it my belief that women and girls should have their own public changing rooms and bathrooms?

That women should retain female-only rape crisis centres?

That men don’t belong in women’s sport?

That female prisoners shouldn’t be incarcerated with violent men and male sex offenders?

That women should remain a protected class in law, because they have sex-specific needs and issues?

That language should reflect reality rather than ideological jargon, especially in a medical context?

That women shouldn’t be harassed, persecuted or fired for refusing to pretend humans can change sex?

That women should not be threatened with violence and rape when they assert their rights?

That freedom of speech and belief are essential to a pluralistic democratic society?

That troubled minors, especially those who are gay, autistic and trauma-experienced, should be given mental health support instead of irreversible surgeries and drug treatments on non-existent evidence of benefit?

That gay people shouldn’t be pressured to include the opposite sex in their dating pools, nor should they be smeared as ‘genital fetishists’ when they don’t?

That cross-dressing heterosexual male fetishists aren’t actually oppressed, but having the time of their lives piggybacking off gender identity ideology?

That said ideology, and the privileged, blinkered fools pushing it because they suffer zero consequences themselves, have done more damage to the political left’s credibility than Trump and Farage could have achieved in a century?

Let me have your thoughts.

This sums up the views of the majority of posters on this board, however, we often have other posters tell us they don’t agree with us, but never what views they don’t actually agree with.

So, those of you that don’t agree with the majority view on here, what is it about the above that you don’t agree with?

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Datun · 02/09/2025 09:27

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 09:23

There have been reported incidents of transwomen attacking females.

There are NO evidence of the reverse. Transwomen are completely safe.

Transwomen however commit sexual offences against females.

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And there's no evidence women are at risk from trans people.

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BettyBooper · 02/09/2025 09:26

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:10

"But there doesn't seem to be any data at all about trans identifying men coming to harm in men's toilets."

There doesn't need to be all there needs to be is trans people at greater risk of violence from men. Use logic!

Everyone is at greater risk of violence from men.

Merrymouse · 02/09/2025 09:25

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/09/2025 09:10

I have read the thread. You have provided precisely zero relevant data to support trans identifying men using women's toilets.

There are more recorded crimes committed by trans identifying men against women and girls in women's toilets than there are crimes committed by men against trans identifying men in men's toilets.

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The overwhelming problem is that to make the argument that a particular group of men share characteristics with women and should therefore use some services for women, you have to be able to define who those men are.

However, the argument has been that there is no objective way to define this category, which undermines the relevance of any studies, and renders any rational policy impossible.

The choices are therefore just mixed sex or single sex.

Yet there is a curious lack of interest in engaging with keeptoiletssafe on what this means for toilet design.

So many posts, but still not clear what point is trying to be made.

Datun · 02/09/2025 09:25

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lol. Women not doing what you say?

Sad times.

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 09:25

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:16

Even with your 'data', and I say that loosely, there is zero evidence that transwomen are at increased risk of anything.
Even if they were, male-on-male violence is a male problem and is not a problem for women to solve. Male-on-female violence is a much greater problem.

Tell us you can't read without telling us….

I have read the data. It does not show any attacks on transwomen in the male facilities. Yet I have included below actual attacks by transwomen on females in female spaces. So you can't refuse that.

AND, male-on-male violence is NOT female problem to solve.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/09/2025 09:24

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:22

But how can we tell which beardy wanker is male and which beardy wanker is 'female' and therefore "allowed" in the toilets.
It doesn't even protect the 'legal' beardy wankers as a policy precisely because no one can tell which beardy wanker is legit and not legit!
Women are better off letting the beardy wankers sort it out between themselves and have a beardy wanker free zone!
Never mind this conversation always ignores the privacy and dignity element because ironically making it all about 'transwomen being perfectly safe' is an argument that's easier to make than the one about women not wishing to be around all penises.

Seems you can't even tell when they aren’t "beardy wankers"

vox.com/2016/5/18/11690234/women-bathrooms-harassment

We can tell when they are threatening to rape and murder us, and we can read about it in the news when they are actually convicted of assaulting women in female only spaces (Katie Dolatowski and Karen White, to give two examples).

Surely the fact that they keep harming or threatening to harm women is evidence that letting them into our single sex spaces is a risk?

Personally I prefer actual verified facts to "Vox".

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 09:23

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:15

There has never been any report that a transwoman was attacked in male facilities. The only reports have been transwomen attacking females in female facilities. In fact, transwomen themselves have said they are completely safe in male facilities, and the worst they get is a smirk.

That's because you can't or won't read the links provided.

Those links do not show a transwoman assaulted in a male toilet.

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 09:23

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:13

I have read the thread. You have provided precisely zero relevant data to support trans identifying men using women's toilets.
There are more recorded crimes committed by trans identifying men against women and girls in women's toilets than there are crimes committed by men against trans identifying men in men's toilets.

I DON'T HAVE TO. All I have to do is show trans people are at higher risk of violence around men who happen to be committing most of the violence against them according to the data.

And there's no evidence women are at risk from trans people.

There have been reported incidents of transwomen attacking females.

There are NO evidence of the reverse. Transwomen are completely safe.

Transwomen however commit sexual offences against females.

JKR asking similar questions to what I have been asking for years on here.
JKR asking similar questions to what I have been asking for years on here.
JKR asking similar questions to what I have been asking for years on here.
JKR asking similar questions to what I have been asking for years on here.
JKR asking similar questions to what I have been asking for years on here.
Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:22

But how can we tell which beardy wanker is male and which beardy wanker is 'female' and therefore "allowed" in the toilets.
It doesn't even protect the 'legal' beardy wankers as a policy precisely because no one can tell which beardy wanker is legit and not legit!
Women are better off letting the beardy wankers sort it out between themselves and have a beardy wanker free zone!
Never mind this conversation always ignores the privacy and dignity element because ironically making it all about 'transwomen being perfectly safe' is an argument that's easier to make than the one about women not wishing to be around all penises.

Seems you can't even tell when they aren’t "beardy wankers"

vox.com/2016/5/18/11690234/women-bathrooms-harassment

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/09/2025 09:20

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:13

I have read the thread. You have provided precisely zero relevant data to support trans identifying men using women's toilets.
There are more recorded crimes committed by trans identifying men against women and girls in women's toilets than there are crimes committed by men against trans identifying men in men's toilets.

I DON'T HAVE TO. All I have to do is show trans people are at higher risk of violence around men who happen to be committing most of the violence against them according to the data.

And there's no evidence women are at risk from trans people.

Really?

There's no evidence that letting the same men who keep threatening to rape and murder us for not believing that they are real women into our toilets and changing rooms puts us at risk of harm?

OldCrone · 02/09/2025 09:20

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:05

"Who committed these hate crimes? Was it women who don't believe that people can change sex or was it men?
I know the answer to that without seeing any statistics or surveys. Perpetrators of these crimes are almost all male. Why don't you pop over to a male dominated forum (lots to choose from) and tell them to be more kind and accepting to trans people?"

Um, the context of this conversation started upthread when a commenter wanted proof trans people were in physical danger from men necessitating they use the women's bathrooms.

Try & keep up.

Wow. You think that if some men are in danger from other men it's women's job to act as protectors and human shields?

And you're stating this on a feminist forum.

OK then. Explain why, if some men are in danger from other men, why it's 'necessary' for the men who claim they are in danger to use spaces which are supposed to be for women only.

AnSolas · 02/09/2025 09:19

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 08:37

"Well that's not self-selecting at all, is it?

Or based on what the respondent perceives to be a hate crime, as opposed to something actually recognised as a crime?

Does the same go for women reporting sexual assault too? See where this goes Einstein?

Not to mention the fact that trans people are one of the super special groups of people who can be victims of a hate crime, i.e. a crime committed against them is considered more serious than the same crime committed against the rest of us mere mortals.
Spray painting "I hate trannies" on a trans person's front door is a hate crime, but raping, murdering and dismembering a woman and then telling the police that you did it because you hate women is not.
Somewhat unsurprisingly, a group which can, as a matter of law, experience a hate crime is going to report a much higher incidence of hate crimes than a group which is not recognised as deserving any such special consideration in law. Funny, that.
I really resent the idea that a crime committed against me is automatically considered less serious than the same crime committed against that prick India Willoughby."

Oh dear, check out the police recorded violence graph for trans! God save the UK?
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-and-wales-2022-to-2023/hate-crime-england-and-wales-2022-to-2023

And the womens hate crime section is where in this report.

And how many sticker offences do you think are included in the official police records?
Lots of forces have told the public that they launched investigations over womens rights stickers because for some reason Womens rights are seen as anti-trans.

But please provide the breakout and details of any which took place in a toilet

RedToothBrush · 02/09/2025 09:19

Helleofabore · 02/09/2025 09:04

Hang on!!

Do we play the game back?

Where are the statistics just for the attacks on male people with transgender identities from male people while in the male single sex toilet?

Of course not.

We are supposed to be good little girls and do what what we are told.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/09/2025 09:18

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:15

There has never been any report that a transwoman was attacked in male facilities. The only reports have been transwomen attacking females in female facilities. In fact, transwomen themselves have said they are completely safe in male facilities, and the worst they get is a smirk.

That's because you can't or won't read the links provided.

No, it's because the links don't say what you are claiming they do.

Datun · 02/09/2025 09:17

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:05

"Who committed these hate crimes? Was it women who don't believe that people can change sex or was it men?
I know the answer to that without seeing any statistics or surveys. Perpetrators of these crimes are almost all male. Why don't you pop over to a male dominated forum (lots to choose from) and tell them to be more kind and accepting to trans people?"

Um, the context of this conversation started upthread when a commenter wanted proof trans people were in physical danger from men necessitating they use the women's bathrooms.

Try & keep up.

Mate, they're not allowed to use women's 'bathrooms'.

The hypocrisy of attempting to use crime stats to justify unlawful behaviour.

RedToothBrush · 02/09/2025 09:17

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:15

There has never been any report that a transwoman was attacked in male facilities. The only reports have been transwomen attacking females in female facilities. In fact, transwomen themselves have said they are completely safe in male facilities, and the worst they get is a smirk.

That's because you can't or won't read the links provided.

Won't

Because it's incel bollocks and guess what, I'll let you into a little secret,

We don't have to do what men tell us to do.

We can think and feel completely independently from men and even tell them to bog off when appropriate too!

Amazing isn't it?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 02/09/2025 09:16

OldCrone · 02/09/2025 08:58

Who committed these hate crimes? Was it women who don't believe that people can change sex or was it men?

I know the answer to that without seeing any statistics or surveys. Perpetrators of these crimes are almost all male. Why don't you pop over to a male dominated forum (lots to choose from) and tell them to be more kind and accepting to trans people?

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We all know why. Howie is scared of men. And deep down Howie knows it too.

That is why Howie is here. Howie likes bullying women to feel powerful. Howie can't punch up so Howie punches down.

Because if Howie really cared about trans people and was really here to try and convince us, Howie would be discussing and engaging instead of gish-galloping and insulting.

This is how we all know that Howie, despite Howie's pretence, knows very well who the female people (the sex class) are and is very ready to treat them differently to male. Howie's every post drips with it.

Yes, Howie likes to feel powerful, from behind a keyboard on the other side of the world.

Poor little Howie.

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:16

Even with your 'data', and I say that loosely, there is zero evidence that transwomen are at increased risk of anything.
Even if they were, male-on-male violence is a male problem and is not a problem for women to solve. Male-on-female violence is a much greater problem.

Tell us you can't read without telling us….

Helleofabore · 02/09/2025 09:16

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 09:09

It refers to someone who is a far rightist, conspiracy theorist, usually anti-vaxxer. It means their brains are cooked. For example, those conspiracy theorists against the covid jab are called cookers.

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And it has moved to being an all round abusive term to be used when women disagree with a man, or a man wants to marginalise a woman for any reason. Such as because she doesn’t react all friendly like when he looks her way.

RedToothBrush · 02/09/2025 09:16

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:10

"But there doesn't seem to be any data at all about trans identifying men coming to harm in men's toilets."

There doesn't need to be all there needs to be is trans people at greater risk of violence from men. Use logic!

But how can we tell which beardy wanker is male and which beardy wanker is 'female' and therefore "allowed" in the toilets.

It doesn't even protect the 'legal' beardy wankers as a policy precisely because no one can tell which beardy wanker is legit and not legit!

Women are better off letting the beardy wankers sort it out between themselves and have a beardy wanker free zone!

Never mind this conversation always ignores the privacy and dignity element because ironically making it all about 'transwomen being perfectly safe' is an argument that's easier to make than the one about women not wishing to be around all penises.

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 09:15

SionnachRuadh · 02/09/2025 09:10

If there were even anecdotal accounts we'd certainly have had them blazoned all over the media.

I suspect this doesn't matter to Brian, who will just spam us with hundreds of irrelevant comments and then say "you're not paying attention, keep up"

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Yup. If transwomen were attacked in the males, they'd rub our faces in it, bring it up every....day..., and NEVER let us forget it.

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:15

There has never been any report that a transwoman was attacked in male facilities. The only reports have been transwomen attacking females in female facilities. In fact, transwomen themselves have said they are completely safe in male facilities, and the worst they get is a smirk.

That's because you can't or won't read the links provided.

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 09:14

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:10

"But there doesn't seem to be any data at all about trans identifying men coming to harm in men's toilets."

There doesn't need to be all there needs to be is trans people at greater risk of violence from men. Use logic!

Even with your 'data', and I say that loosely, there is zero evidence that transwomen are at increased risk of anything.

Even if they were, male-on-male violence is a male problem and is not a problem for women to solve. Male-on-female violence is a much greater problem.

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:13

I have read the thread. You have provided precisely zero relevant data to support trans identifying men using women's toilets.
There are more recorded crimes committed by trans identifying men against women and girls in women's toilets than there are crimes committed by men against trans identifying men in men's toilets.

I DON'T HAVE TO. All I have to do is show trans people are at higher risk of violence around men who happen to be committing most of the violence against them according to the data.

And there's no evidence women are at risk from trans people.