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JKR asking similar questions to what I have been asking for years on here.

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DialSquare · 01/09/2025 12:11

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J.K. Rowling@jk_rowling29m
As another man who once worked with me declares himself saddened by my beliefs on gender and sex, I thought it might be useful to compile a list for handy reference. Which of the following do you imagine makes actors and directors who aren’t involved with the HBO reboot of Harry Potter so miserable?

Is it my belief that women and girls should have their own public changing rooms and bathrooms?

That women should retain female-only rape crisis centres?

That men don’t belong in women’s sport?

That female prisoners shouldn’t be incarcerated with violent men and male sex offenders?

That women should remain a protected class in law, because they have sex-specific needs and issues?

That language should reflect reality rather than ideological jargon, especially in a medical context?

That women shouldn’t be harassed, persecuted or fired for refusing to pretend humans can change sex?

That women should not be threatened with violence and rape when they assert their rights?

That freedom of speech and belief are essential to a pluralistic democratic society?

That troubled minors, especially those who are gay, autistic and trauma-experienced, should be given mental health support instead of irreversible surgeries and drug treatments on non-existent evidence of benefit?

That gay people shouldn’t be pressured to include the opposite sex in their dating pools, nor should they be smeared as ‘genital fetishists’ when they don’t?

That cross-dressing heterosexual male fetishists aren’t actually oppressed, but having the time of their lives piggybacking off gender identity ideology?

That said ideology, and the privileged, blinkered fools pushing it because they suffer zero consequences themselves, have done more damage to the political left’s credibility than Trump and Farage could have achieved in a century?

Let me have your thoughts.

This sums up the views of the majority of posters on this board, however, we often have other posters tell us they don’t agree with us, but never what views they don’t actually agree with.

So, those of you that don’t agree with the majority view on here, what is it about the above that you don’t agree with?

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Namelessnelly · 02/09/2025 09:38

Can I just ask… why are we engaging with this swivel eyed buffoon? @Howseitgoin men are not women, never will be. No means no. Women are saying no. Now please run along do
dear.

Datun · 02/09/2025 09:37

'Impractical nonsense'

😁

BettyBooper · 02/09/2025 09:37

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:35

Incidences MAKE UP STATISTICAL DATA.
Even one incidence is ONE TOO MANY.

So women perps = women unsafe ergo individual loos only? See where this impractical nonsense is going?

I could see where your nonsense is going from a satellite in space. 🛰️

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/09/2025 09:36

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:35

Incidences MAKE UP STATISTICAL DATA.
Even one incidence is ONE TOO MANY.

So women perps = women unsafe ergo individual loos only? See where this impractical nonsense is going?

Women are women.

Trans identifying men are men.

What is your justification for trans identifying men being treated as though they are women?

Please back it up with statistically significant data.

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 09:36

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:35

Incidences MAKE UP STATISTICAL DATA.
Even one incidence is ONE TOO MANY.

So women perps = women unsafe ergo individual loos only? See where this impractical nonsense is going?

Women in with women is different to men in with women. Your nonsense is irrational. Female only spaces have been practical for over a century.

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:35

Incidences MAKE UP STATISTICAL DATA.
Even one incidence is ONE TOO MANY.

So women perps = women unsafe ergo individual loos only? See where this impractical nonsense is going?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/09/2025 09:35

@Howseitgoin Why do you think we need significant statistical data to justify trans identifying men being excluded from women's toilets, but no data whatsoever to justify them being allowed in?

RedToothBrush · 02/09/2025 09:34

Btw one of the transwoman I know calls himself 'John' (basically a very male name which he hasnt changed) and uses female pronouns whilst wearing eyeliner and nail varnish.

And yes he does have a beard.

He's a nice guy as it goes. But he's definitely still a dude.

Datun · 02/09/2025 09:34

Honestly

TRAs: we'll rape and kill you if you don't give us access.

Also TRAs: we're absolutelyyyy no threat, so you must give us access.

Namelessnelly · 02/09/2025 09:33

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:31

"This is from the US (where they don't give a shit about women's rights) and not in any way relevant to what happens in the UK.
In the UK we have had Karen White sexually assaulting female prisoners in a women's prison, Katie Dolatowski sexually assaulting pre-teen girls in women's toilets, and trans activists threatening to rape and murder gender critical feminists thousands of times per day.
So yes, there is a very obvious risk.
I would say that letting men who don't claim to identify as women use women's toilets would actually be less risky than letting trans identifying men use them."

Isolated instances don't qualify as significant statistical data.

Oooh so then your proof of males with a trans identity being attacked in male spaces can also be ignored. So therefore there is no reason to let males into female spaces. I knew we’d get there in the end. Don’t forget your antibacterial wipes before you change hands. 😙

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/09/2025 09:32

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:29

The images I posted prove otherwise. They even have NAMES of the offenders.

Isolated instance don't qualify as significant statistical data.

Ahhh, so the crimes that have been committed against women by trans identifying men are statistically insignificant, are they?

I'd like to know what number of women or girls being harmed would be statistically significant, in your opinion, and over what time period.

I'd also point out that the crimes committed against trans identifying men by men in men's toilets appear to be statistically non-existent, and yet you want to put women at actual risk to spare trans identifying men from a hypothetical risk.

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 09:32

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:31

"This is from the US (where they don't give a shit about women's rights) and not in any way relevant to what happens in the UK.
In the UK we have had Karen White sexually assaulting female prisoners in a women's prison, Katie Dolatowski sexually assaulting pre-teen girls in women's toilets, and trans activists threatening to rape and murder gender critical feminists thousands of times per day.
So yes, there is a very obvious risk.
I would say that letting men who don't claim to identify as women use women's toilets would actually be less risky than letting trans identifying men use them."

Isolated instances don't qualify as significant statistical data.

Incidences MAKE UP STATISTICAL DATA.
Even one incidence is ONE TOO MANY.

The 'data' in your links individually, are 'isolated incidences' too.

RedToothBrush · 02/09/2025 09:31

RedToothBrush · 02/09/2025 09:30

Gosh vox magazine.

That totally is going to be high quality and prove that you can tell the difference between a beardy wanker and a beardy wanker.

Meanwhile the eyes have it.

Merrymouse · 02/09/2025 09:31

Hate crimes based on gender minority status

How does anyone know that somebody has a ‘gender minority status’, if as suggested previously, that would require a chromosome test?

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:31

"This is from the US (where they don't give a shit about women's rights) and not in any way relevant to what happens in the UK.
In the UK we have had Karen White sexually assaulting female prisoners in a women's prison, Katie Dolatowski sexually assaulting pre-teen girls in women's toilets, and trans activists threatening to rape and murder gender critical feminists thousands of times per day.
So yes, there is a very obvious risk.
I would say that letting men who don't claim to identify as women use women's toilets would actually be less risky than letting trans identifying men use them."

Isolated instances don't qualify as significant statistical data.

RedToothBrush · 02/09/2025 09:30

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:22

But how can we tell which beardy wanker is male and which beardy wanker is 'female' and therefore "allowed" in the toilets.
It doesn't even protect the 'legal' beardy wankers as a policy precisely because no one can tell which beardy wanker is legit and not legit!
Women are better off letting the beardy wankers sort it out between themselves and have a beardy wanker free zone!
Never mind this conversation always ignores the privacy and dignity element because ironically making it all about 'transwomen being perfectly safe' is an argument that's easier to make than the one about women not wishing to be around all penises.

Seems you can't even tell when they aren’t "beardy wankers"

vox.com/2016/5/18/11690234/women-bathrooms-harassment

Gosh vox magazine.

That totally is going to be high quality and prove that you can tell the difference between a beardy wanker and a beardy wanker.

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 09:30

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:29

The images I posted prove otherwise. They even have NAMES of the offenders.

Isolated instance don't qualify as significant statistical data.

Incidences MAKE UP STATISTICAL DATA.

Even one incidence is ONE TOO MANY.

Namelessnelly · 02/09/2025 09:29

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:27

"Those links do not show a transwoman assaulted in a male toilet."

They don't have to make the necessary point unless you can't use logic.

Ummm yes yes they do. Now I’m sure you’ve got loads of data about trans identified men being attacked in men’s toilets and changing rooms. Loads. So you can give a few examples. Also it’s time to change your typing hand. You don’t want to get RSI.

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 09:29

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:27

"Those links do not show a transwoman assaulted in a male toilet."

They don't have to make the necessary point unless you can't use logic.

Yes they DO.

Male-on-male violence does not justify males being placed in female toilets.

There has never been 1 (one) recorded incidence of a transwoman attacked in a male facility.

There are around 50 accounts of transwomen attacking females in female facilities.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/09/2025 09:29

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:26

Really?
There's no evidence that letting the same men who keep threatening to rape and murder us for not believing that they are real women into our toilets and changing rooms puts us at risk of harm?

No risk.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13178-018-0335-z

This is from the US (where they don't give a shit about women's rights) and not in any way relevant to what happens in the UK.

In the UK we have had Karen White sexually assaulting female prisoners in a women's prison, Katie Dolatowski sexually assaulting pre-teen girls in women's toilets, and trans activists threatening to rape and murder gender critical feminists thousands of times per day.

So yes, there is a very obvious risk.

I would say that letting men who don't claim to identify as women use women's toilets would actually be less risky than letting trans identifying men use them. Fully mixed sex toilets would probably also be safer because there would be less risk of someone like Katie Dolatowski committing the crimes he committed if other men were present.

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:29

The images I posted prove otherwise. They even have NAMES of the offenders.

Isolated instance don't qualify as significant statistical data.

AnSolas · 02/09/2025 09:28

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Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:27

"Those links do not show a transwoman assaulted in a male toilet."

They don't have to make the necessary point unless you can't use logic.

ThatBlackCat · 02/09/2025 09:27

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:26

Really?
There's no evidence that letting the same men who keep threatening to rape and murder us for not believing that they are real women into our toilets and changing rooms puts us at risk of harm?

No risk.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13178-018-0335-z

The images I posted prove otherwise. They even have NAMES of the offenders.

Namelessnelly · 02/09/2025 09:27

Howseitgoin · 02/09/2025 09:01

Here you go, I'll do your work for you….
"The microsystem refers to transphobic interactions between individuals. In 2018, more than half of young trans respondents to a national Stonewall survey had experienced a hate crime in the past year 22]. Since then, estimates of police-reported transphobic hate crimes have increased by 200% 23]. Hate crimes based on gender minority status are more likely to involve enacted or threatened physical violence than crimes motivated by other minoritised characteristics 23]. Moreover, the results from a TransActual UK survey demonstrated that interpersonal transphobia is alarmingly commonplace, with experiences of transphobia from strangers (e.g., on public transport or when accessing goods and services), colleagues and family, each reported by a majority of respondents 21]."
being a sex realist is considered transphobic. Believing that women’s sports belong to biological women only is considered transphobic. Believing that JK Rowling is a thoughtful philanthropist and not a hateful bigot is considered transphobic. Excuse me if I find these “surveys” a complete joke.

Um the quote specifies:

"Hate crimes based on gender minority status are more likely to involve enacted or threatened physical violence than crimes motivated by other minoritised characteristics"

So how do you feel about the rape threats, death threats and violence TRAs routinely throw at women. Are you calling them out too or do they get a free pass? I mean, you seem to be saying that all those implied threats of violence are also hate crimes no? So I assume you’re also calling out the TRA issuing these threats? If not, why not? Something to do with “Bros before hos?@

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