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Charity rejects disabled child for mother's GC views

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PaddingtonSwear · 31/08/2025 08:22

Archive link here: https://archive.ph/zGGCc

Pretty shocking but it seems they think they're right.

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NotBadConsidering · 01/09/2025 09:09

CassOle · 01/09/2025 08:54

Some people just shouldn't be taken seriously.

The problem is these sorts of people find themselves in jobs where safeguarding matters, like children’s charities, residential care, NHS wards, girl guides and so on, then we wonder why we have ongoing institutional CSA.

CassOle · 01/09/2025 08:54

Some people just shouldn't be taken seriously.

SouthWamses · 01/09/2025 08:34

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 01/09/2025 08:28

Our visitors Mask has slipped hasn't it

Some time ago. Their view of safeguarding has been clear from the start.

AnSolas · 01/09/2025 08:33

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 01/09/2025 08:28

Our visitors Mask has slipped hasn't it

What can one expect when one takes a position and then trys to argue that one has not taken that position or typed the things one typed

Same old same old when all else fails pulling out the personal attack and DARVO

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 01/09/2025 08:28

Our visitors Mask has slipped hasn't it

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 08:14

Nameychangington · 01/09/2025 08:09

Baroness Nicholson isn't a 'politician', do you even understand what the House of Lords is?

I've posted up thread the WRN report on rapes and sexual assaults in hospitals, over 2000 reported rapes on hospital property - what are the chances that some factors (which? You haven't said) are common between different assaults?

You should probably be careful in libelling a Member of the House of Lords btw, and saying 'she obviously made it up' about a statement she made to the House is libel.

I've interacted with Baroness Nicholson. She asked for evidence of what I was contacting her about, she didn't just take my word for it.

You know you'll pull a.muscle if you reaching like that.

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 08:14

Nameychangington · 01/09/2025 08:09

Baroness Nicholson isn't a 'politician', do you even understand what the House of Lords is?

I've posted up thread the WRN report on rapes and sexual assaults in hospitals, over 2000 reported rapes on hospital property - what are the chances that some factors (which? You haven't said) are common between different assaults?

You should probably be careful in libelling a Member of the House of Lords btw, and saying 'she obviously made it up' about a statement she made to the House is libel.

I've interacted with Baroness Nicholson. She asked for evidence of what I was contacting her about, she didn't just take my word for it.

From her wiki:

Emma Harriet Nicholson, Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne is a British politician, who has been a life peer since 1997. She was elected as the Conservative Member of Parliament for Torridge and West Devon in 1987, before switching to the Liberal Democrats in 1995.

Nameychangington · 01/09/2025 08:09

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 07:50

Not because skeptics told me so, but because the reported case and what the politician presented have many of the same facts. When pushed to answer some of the questions about what exactly occurred, the politician could not answer them despite it not revealing anything additional about the victim. She obviously made it up to make a point. People do it all the time.

Baroness Nicholson isn't a 'politician', do you even understand what the House of Lords is?

I've posted up thread the WRN report on rapes and sexual assaults in hospitals, over 2000 reported rapes on hospital property - what are the chances that some factors (which? You haven't said) are common between different assaults?

You should probably be careful in libelling a Member of the House of Lords btw, and saying 'she obviously made it up' about a statement she made to the House is libel.

I've interacted with Baroness Nicholson. She asked for evidence of what I was contacting her about, she didn't just take my word for it.

AnSolas · 01/09/2025 08:03

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 07:51

Never said that. I said children shoukd be told the sex of other people. If you are going to start lying, I will stop talking to you. Are you going to start lying? Yes or no?

Can you please quote where you said this about the child who applied to the camp?

If you said this why are you supporting the Charity position of abusing a child for being allowed to correctly sex other people?

AnSolas · 01/09/2025 07:59

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 07:50

Not because skeptics told me so, but because the reported case and what the politician presented have many of the same facts. When pushed to answer some of the questions about what exactly occurred, the politician could not answer them despite it not revealing anything additional about the victim. She obviously made it up to make a point. People do it all the time.

How many rapes are reported on NHS properties each year?

How did you source the number?

OldCrone · 01/09/2025 07:58

OldCrone · 31/08/2025 20:56

It's recorded in Hansard. Baroness Nicholson spoke to the woman and knows all the details of the case. Obviously these details cannot be made public.

Health and Care Bill - Hansard - UK Parliament

This is the relevant part of her speech.

However, a rather wonderful lady—I cannot say who she is—was raped in hospital by a man about a year ago. There is only one definition of rape in Britain and that is male on female; you cannot rape if you do not have the structure of a male. She was raped and she naturally reported it to the police. The police spoke to the hospital, which informed them that there was no male in the hospital, therefore the rape could not have happened. They forgot that there was CCTV, nurses and observers. None the less, it has taken nearly a year for the hospital to agree that there was a male on the ward and, yes, this rape happened. It is on record—I know where the case happened, who the police are and where the hospital is. I know everything about it because she gave me the full case to make sure I knew that what she was saying was true.

During that year she has almost come to the edge of a nervous breakdown, because being disbelieved about being raped in hospital has been such an appalling shock. The hospital, with all its CCTV, has had to admit that the rape happened and that it was committed by a man.

@Ihavetoask

Just reposting this for you, since you obviously missed it when I posted it last night.

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 01/09/2025 07:58

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Christ on a bike! you have literally no idea about how ROGD has brought up his son and what he's been through and yet here you are resorting to personal attacks on him to make a point

you agree that ppl can't change sex and that children should be told the correct sex of ppl they're with even if they "identify" differently - I believe that makes you in the eyes of the TRA a big old transphobic bigot

ArabellaScott · 01/09/2025 07:57

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 07:42

Ok. I get that it can be hard to admit it to yourself.

It seems from your responses that you're quite young, and not a parent, or familiar with being in a position of responsibility for younger people. This kind of petty game playing isnt helpful for anyone.

AnSolas · 01/09/2025 07:51

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 07:46

Yes because all the facts align except for the ones the politician fabricated to make her point.

Is this "facts align" similar to how the 8 year old has an abusive mum and only met and been influenced by family?

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 07:51

SouthWamses · 01/09/2025 07:48

And yet you are still saying children should be lied to about the sex of other children to entrench this gendered system further in their minds.

Never said that. I said children shoukd be told the sex of other people. If you are going to start lying, I will stop talking to you. Are you going to start lying? Yes or no?

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 07:50

Helleofabore · 31/08/2025 19:33

Yes Namey! Because the Skeptics told them so! Therefore it must be true....

Not because skeptics told me so, but because the reported case and what the politician presented have many of the same facts. When pushed to answer some of the questions about what exactly occurred, the politician could not answer them despite it not revealing anything additional about the victim. She obviously made it up to make a point. People do it all the time.

SouthWamses · 01/09/2025 07:48

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 07:45

It is super obvious. You literally see the trans people and their parents saying that the kid is a boy because they never liked dolls. And as I say, you still see people talking about their sex preferences for their children because they ultimately believe that sex determines personality and interests and that they'd be a better parent to a child or children of a particular gender based on stereotypes. We are pretty entrenched in these beliefs.

It poisons the children and that's the homes that trans kids come from.

And yet you are still saying children should be lied to about the sex of other children to entrench this gendered system further in their minds.

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 07:47

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AnSolas · 01/09/2025 07:47

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 07:45

It is super obvious. You literally see the trans people and their parents saying that the kid is a boy because they never liked dolls. And as I say, you still see people talking about their sex preferences for their children because they ultimately believe that sex determines personality and interests and that they'd be a better parent to a child or children of a particular gender based on stereotypes. We are pretty entrenched in these beliefs.

It poisons the children and that's the homes that trans kids come from.

Then why do you support the ideology?

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 07:46

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 31/08/2025 23:25

And you are projecting your very limited observation and experience onto all parents of trans children. This fits with your insistence that an incident which took place on a female ward is the same as one which occurred in A&E. Speaking with certainty from a place of ignorance.

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Yes because all the facts align except for the ones the politician fabricated to make her point.

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 07:45

MyAmpleSheep · 01/09/2025 01:31

I think if there was any genuine connection between household gender expectations and children identifying as trans it would be super super obvious; and we wouldn’t now have an epidemic of such children in the last fifteen years, since prior generations were far more rigid in gendered thinking than the present.

Personally I see it similar to the anorexia - and other eating disorders - epidemic which I recall my contemporaries suffering through adolescence, that is, as a social phenomenon amplified by peer pressures.

It is super obvious. You literally see the trans people and their parents saying that the kid is a boy because they never liked dolls. And as I say, you still see people talking about their sex preferences for their children because they ultimately believe that sex determines personality and interests and that they'd be a better parent to a child or children of a particular gender based on stereotypes. We are pretty entrenched in these beliefs.

It poisons the children and that's the homes that trans kids come from.

Ihavetoask · 01/09/2025 07:42

MyAmpleSheep · 31/08/2025 23:32

I have to say, this is the biggest load of tosh I’ve ever read.

Based on what I’ve seen, obviously.

Ok. I get that it can be hard to admit it to yourself.

MyAmpleSheep · 01/09/2025 01:31

I think if there was any genuine connection between household gender expectations and children identifying as trans it would be super super obvious; and we wouldn’t now have an epidemic of such children in the last fifteen years, since prior generations were far more rigid in gendered thinking than the present.

Personally I see it similar to the anorexia - and other eating disorders - epidemic which I recall my contemporaries suffering through adolescence, that is, as a social phenomenon amplified by peer pressures.

BettyBooper · 01/09/2025 00:40

MyAmpleSheep · 31/08/2025 23:32

I have to say, this is the biggest load of tosh I’ve ever read.

Based on what I’ve seen, obviously.

I would suggest that the poster is full of shit.

Also based on what I've seen.

Very much welcome any evidence to the contrary.

(Sets clock and realistic expectations...)

MyAmpleSheep · 31/08/2025 23:32

Ihavetoask · 31/08/2025 18:42

They only start to vocalise this once their child "comes out" as a way to barter. If they held those views from the time the child was a baby, they wouldn't be where they are. That's my opinion based on what Ive seen.

I have to say, this is the biggest load of tosh I’ve ever read.

Based on what I’ve seen, obviously.

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