Charity rejects disabled child for mother's GC views

You'd be surprised, then, at how widespread this ideology has become. I think you're about 50 years behind the times - your view is quite in keeping with what used to happen and the reasons people like Stephen Whittle transitioned, but it's not the 1970s any more.

They knew. You don’t have men on a hospital ward without being aware he is a man.

You can't choose my pronouns. I'll stop talking to you if you do.

It’s the same logic. The man on the NHS ward claimed he was of the female sex. The victim was told that there was only those of the female sex on the ward. This debunks the ‘"Told the sex" doesn't leave much room for lies’ nonsense.

Ihavetoask you condone deliberately hiding the truth about the sex of other students and staff from children. You’re trying to avoid saying you do, but you do. If you didn’t you would clearly come out and say “I believe the actual biological true sex of people should not be hidden from children or their parents as it presents a safeguarding risk”. But you haven’t. You’re a safeguarding loophole of you’re own.

I'd have simply asked about logistics by phone or email. I wouldn't have put an inappropriate and irrelevant response on a form. But I tend to want effectivity over volume.

No "we" dont have pronouns.

You have your language choices.

You can choose to use a word which inducates to the listner that you have sexed a person animal or object in one of sex class.

For the human you can choose to mis-sex her/him. When this happens when safeguarding is needed it is a safeguarding fail.

They did. That is exactly what happened.

No, when it comes to the depths of depravity in humanity coupled with the incompetence of our systems, I am quite unshockable
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No, what you do is challenge it yourself before the child goes to the camp and is put in that situation.

Which is what the mother here did.

So if a crossdressing man tells a child that he is a woman, the child should just accept it?

Seriously, can you not see any problems with this?

Can't read it but unless it says that they knew there was someone with a penis present and lied about that, then it doesn't disprove what Im saying. The issue was that the person was likely listed as female so on first glance, no men were present.

You seem strangely unshocked by this story if you're hearing it fir the first time

I mean a women was raped, the hospital knew a man was on the ward and lied about it to the police

that doesnt shock you?

And it is our responsibility as parents to ensure that gender ideology is not pushed on children.

You're getting desperate now. This case has been well documented:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/17/hospital-told-police-patient-not-raped-alleged-attacker-transgender/

Edited to add archive link for the Telegraph article:

archive.ph/IPdUX

Yes tbh. At a camp where they are there to do activities, it isn't appropriate for my child to confront this. We can discuss when they get home. I wouldn't encourage my child to openly disobey what the adults and child tell them.

It's not an illogical leap, it's a reference to an actual situation that occurred on an NHS hospital ward. That was the claim made by hospital management, which stymied the investigation into the victim's report until a member of the House of Lords intervened.

I will assume you were unaware of that.

Likely because the ward list said there were only females and nobody checked beyond that. I see that more like someone saying that it was an Irish man but as everyone listed was born in England, they assumed there was nobody Irish on the ward and ignored the fact that someone had emigrated to Ireland as a child.

I've heard about this charity before as I'm Scottish and they are extremely woke.

Even if they didn't agree with the mother's views, they didn't have to phone her up and question her. They could have just shrugged their shoulders and accepted the application anyway. So they initiated the argument imo

Its not clear to me if the mum is just complaining or taking actual legal action?

Ah. So you work for a trans lobby group that targets children?

What illogical leaps? A rape victim was gaslit for a year with this very statement.

I'm arguing from what I have seen around me. You never see a trans child come from a home where they don't associate personality traits and interests with gender.

That's not an illogical leap - it was what staff in an NHS hospital told a woman (and the police) who'd been raped by a trans identifying man. That there was no man on the ward. They lied and covered up a rape on a hospital ward until the police discovered the truth from CCTV.

But you haven’t confirmed you think that means their actual sex, not their claimed sex. Do you think children should be told that the teacher or student may claim a female identity, but is actually male?

When adults stop lying to children, I will start worrying about children accepting 'factual truth' from adults.

You can't demand the latter before the former.

I've answered that more than once. Children should be told the sex of other people.