Charity rejects disabled child for mother's GC views

What if they said this to a girl who is a tomboy? Yes we know you are a girl BUT because the kids think you look like a boy, you need to get used to them calling you "he". If you want them to call you she, grow your hair and wear a dress.

I don't think another child is the appropriate party to address this with the trans identifying child. It could cause more harm. Which is exactly why I discourage children from arguing about it with adults who have told them otherwise.

She did by writing seriously.

Feminism is about equity for women - not about spouting hate - so maybe you're the person who's in the wrong place.

None of what you've just said actually has anything to do with feminism - this is akin to religious people using outdated texts in order to persecute gay people...but you'd probably think that was reasonable too 🤦🏻‍♀️🙄

I will never remove myself from a place that is in dire need to perspective and education- because ignorance will not be bliss, it will be harmful.

So jump down off your soapbox until you've got something sensible to say.

Yeah she sounds a problem. Whatever your views, there is a time and place to express them, the way she went about it was all wrong. I'd have just left the pronouns bit blank. Now she fucked over her kid all because she just couldn't hold back from ranting about her opinions.

She shouldn't tell her kid that if "he sees" a girl, then he should insist it is a girl. He is a child and might be wrong. He might "see" a girl because a boy has long hair and then refuse to acknowledge his gender because mummy said girls look a certain way.

You come on a feminist site, vomit your ignorance of safeguarding, then say we should 'keep our opinions to ourself' (presumably like good little women). Do you even know what section you are in, @DarkwingDuk The FEMINIST WOMENS RIGHTS site. And no, we WON'T keep our opinions to ourself. How about you leave this section if you don't like it. Cool, move along. Leave. This is our section, you came here. Don't let the door hit you on the arse. And keep your ignorant and dangerous opinions to yourself.

I think I should be able to assume they are if my ward is designated as single sex.

But you can’t assume. That’s the point. So you can either wait until something bad happens, or check beforehand. You clearly don’t see an issue with letting something bad happen first.

Having hospitals only admit other females to my ward is something that would be achieved through voting.

Voting when? It what election? For whom? No one is looking out for your rights.

The belief that you need to change because you don't fit some rigid expectations or have been made to bekieve your biological sex is toxic

So in that instance, you would support children being told “Finn is a girl but thinks she’s a boy, but the stereotypical beliefs she has don’t make her a boy.” That means you support this mother in making sure her child isn’t told lies based on stereotypes while on camp, don’t you?

Wow, the ignorance is astounding!!

This camp goes up to 17 years - there are many teenagers who are trans and who also have a right to be able to attend the camp without being harassed by a grown woman - if you bother to read the article it says that they suggested her son go to one of the summer camps where the adults don't attend "In the wake of the incident, Kevin Mathieson, the charity’s chief executive, also wrote to the mother, suggesting that she “consider” applying for her son to attend a five-day residential camp for the children, without their families"
So clearly the issue here is that she was aggressively against trans people and they had a trans child attending, that child has the right to be protected from nasty adults that refuse to hold their tongue.

It always blows my mind that people sit there ranting and get upset about how another human being chooses to represent themselves - even when it doesn't affect them AT ALL!. Some people seriously need to grow up.
How is any decent person thinking it would better for these people to CS than to simply change their pronouns...how damaged do you have to be to think that is ok. It's disgusting!

I honestly couldn't care less what gender someone wants to be seen as. This whole idea that a child or teen would pretend to be trans just so they can spy on people from the opposite genetic make up is so stupid. They're all kids, get over yourselves and your silliness. Let them be whatever they need to be to survive the sh**show that is life.

If you don't like it, cool, move along - you don't need to. Just keep your opinions to yourself! Simple.

Here's an example:

Man jailed for abducting schoolgirl while dressed as woman - BBC News

The girl later told police how she had been unable to get a bus home and so started to walk when she was approached "by a lady in a car" who offered to give her a lift.

She said she had accepted the offer and got into the Jaguar car because she was cold and believed the "lady" to be non-threatening.

Perhaps this poor little girl (primary school age) hadn't been taught that sometimes a man might pretend to be a 'lady', and he's as dangerous as any other strange man.

They all knew. He was a fully intact male, an obvious male, and even the nurses looking after him LIED and said he wasn't a man, when they physically tended to him! They KNEW he was a fully intact male and they lied.

That’s just not true. The charity’s clinical director contacted the mother months after the application was submitted and lectured her on the importance of pronouns. The mother didn’t start the conversation. This is part of the tactics used to force people to take part in this ideology.

You seem to have a very prejudiced view about the parents who post on FWR that really doesn't seem to be an accurate characterisation. Engaging in a discussion on how some men and boys behave and how this interacts with the patriarchy as well as feminist discussion is a very tall leap of an assumption as to why a child experiences gender dysphoria.

This is post shows an ignorance about gender dysphoria. But a real skewed perception of the nature of posters on this board too.

She isnt concerned. She is being confrontational. If she was concerned, she would ask what may happen if her child was to use the "wrong" pronouns for a child. She wouldn't approach it this way. She wants to vent her views. Her child's experience is secondary to her at this point.

Oh wow. That's a really nasty thing to write.

You are also making a huge assumption about why parents of children who identify as trans are on the site and the sex of the children who identify as trans. Plus, a huge assumption about why they identify as trans.

Wow, the ignorance is astounding!!

This camp goes up to 17 years - there are many teenagers who are trans and who also have a right to be able to attend the camp without being harassed by a grown woman - if you bother to read the article it says that they suggested her son go to one of the summer camps where the adults don't attend "In the wake of the incident, Kevin Mathieson, the charity’s chief executive, also wrote to the mother, suggesting that she “consider” applying for her son to attend a five-day residential camp for the children, without their families"
So clearly the issue here is that she was aggressively against trans people and they had a trans child attending, that child has the right to be protected from nasty adults that refuse to hold their tongue.

It always blows my mind that people sit there ranting and get upset about how another human being chooses to represent themselves - even when it doesn't affect them AT ALL!. Some people seriously need to grow up.
How is any decent person thinking it would better for these people to CS than to simply change their pronouns...how damaged do you have to be to think that is ok. It's disgusting!

I honestly couldn't care less what gender someone wants to be seen as. This whole idea that a child or teen would pretend to be trans just so they can spy on people from the opposite genetic make up is so stupid. They're all kids, get over yourselves and your silliness. Let them be whatever they need to be to survive the sh**show that is life.

If you don't like it, cool, move along - you don't need to. Just keep your opinions to yourself! Simple.

Wow, the ignorance is astounding!!

This camp goes up to 17 years - there are many teenagers who are trans and who also have a right to be able to attend the camp without being harassed by a grown woman - if you bother to read the article it says that they suggested her son go to one of the summer camps where the adults don't attend "In the wake of the incident, Kevin Mathieson, the charity’s chief executive, also wrote to the mother, suggesting that she “consider” applying for her son to attend a five-day residential camp for the children, without their families"
So clearly the issue here is that she was aggressively against trans people and they had a trans child attending, that child has the right to be protected from nasty adults that refuse to hold their tongue.

It always blows my mind that people sit there ranting and get upset about how another human being chooses to represent themselves - even when it doesn't affect them AT ALL!. Some people seriously need to grow up.
How is any decent person thinking it would better for these people to CS than to simply change their pronouns...how damaged do you have to be to think that is ok. It's disgusting!

I honestly couldn't care less what gender someone wants to be seen as. This whole idea that a child or teen would pretend to be trans just so they can spy on people from the opposite genetic make up is so stupid. They're all kids, get over yourselves and your silliness. Let them be whatever they need to be to survive the sh**show that is life.

If you don't like it, cool, move along - you don't need to. Just keep your opinions to yourself! Simple.

Yes. I see it in many posts on here. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a disproportionate number of parents on here who have trans identifying children. I can absolutely see why they do just by the way they speak about men and boys.

We’re going to have to agree to disagree here. I do not think that addressing a person in the way they want to be is lying or denying reality.

Given women such as Myra Hindley and Rose West, sadly we shouldn't tell our daughters to put themselves into a vulnerable situation with women either.

So are they supposed to reject disabled children for the crime of identifying as trans, or tell them they can only come if they accept they aren't trans? That would be pretty mean, wouldn't it?