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Gardening: Gay Men Refused Service Because of Gender-Critical Views

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AnotherAngryAcademic · 29/08/2025 13:20

The Human Gay Male group have instructed Peter Daly in their case against a Brighton pub. (They had booked a private room for a group meal but the pub cancelled because of the group’s gender critical views. They were also told they would be denied service in the pub as individuals.)

This is an interesting case and it would be useful to have a court decision on whether groups can be denied goods and services on the grounds of gender critical belief.

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deadpan · 29/08/2025 14:59

Jeez, would they be refused if they voted for a party different to the management? Or if the voted remain and the management votes leave. It's ridiculous. We all disagree on all sorts of things.

PuceGreen · 29/08/2025 14:47

It sounds like a clear-cut case, based on the brief facts set out by the group. The men were going to hold a meeting in a private room.

AnotherAngryAcademic · 29/08/2025 14:39

CompleteGinasaur · 29/08/2025 14:19

I'm a bit torn here, because obviously it's a more than worthy crowdfunder, but there's a bit of me that can't help thinking that gay men usually have infinitely more disposable income than I, scruffy lesbian that I am, and that there are plenty of women's crowdfunders for my pittance. I think I'll wait and only subscribe if it looks like it really needs it... More than happy to bump, though!

I think that the fact that it is a men’s group bringing the case really highlights how many groups of people have had their freedom restricted by this issue. Which is not to say that any women should feel obliged to donate (and I agree that gay men on average have more disposable income than lesbians in particular, and women in general!) - although I think that those who do donate to this case will be contributing to advancing consumer rights for lesbians. If these men win, it will be harder for venues to refuse lesbian only bookings, for example 🙂. (And I think it’s useful that it is gay men doing this - because they are probably more likely to be successful at crowdfunding than a similar claim by lesbians, because they generally have more disposable income etc etc 😊)

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CompleteGinasaur · 29/08/2025 14:19

I'm a bit torn here, because obviously it's a more than worthy crowdfunder, but there's a bit of me that can't help thinking that gay men usually have infinitely more disposable income than I, scruffy lesbian that I am, and that there are plenty of women's crowdfunders for my pittance. I think I'll wait and only subscribe if it looks like it really needs it... More than happy to bump, though!

backslashruby · 29/08/2025 14:06

Donated.

JamieCannister · 29/08/2025 14:00

I hope that this is being shared on gay men's discussion forums and that men get donating.

AnotherAngryAcademic · 29/08/2025 13:30

It’s on Crowd Justice, and the title is the thread title (minus “gardening”!)

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Apollo441 · 29/08/2025 13:29

Is this on gofundme? What do you search for?