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GLP are going after Sarah Philmore and are going to lose

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fromorbit · 28/08/2025 09:10

Get the popcorn folks. GLP is getting ready to lose again.

They are going after barrister Sarah Phillimore for referring to a man as a man. They think they are going to lawfare her into silence.

Her blog:

Here we are now: Entertain us
I have had now 7 years and counting of the various tactics used to 'silence' those who won't comply with prevailing orthodoxy. How are those tactics holding up?
https://sarahphillimore.substack.com/p/here-we-are-now-entertain-us?

The only thing is other TAs have already tried this on Phillimore multiple times. They went to the Bar Council their claims were dismissed. They all failed. More to the point this ‘Kate’ is the same guy complaining again who already failed. Sarah Phillimore knows the law and likes explaining it to TAs and making them lose. So she doesn't even resent the attempt.

As Sarah has stated "They pick on someone who not only enjoys this but has now a vast repository of knowledge about the law in this area."

Sarah Phillimore

Because I don’t tweet as a public body, an employer or provider of goods or services. I am not subject to the Equality Act. I tweet as a private individual and I will say again. You can’t change sex. A man cannot be a woman. I cannot be compelled to call a man a woman.

A trans identifying man such as ‘Kate’ who frequently takes to the public stage to urge violence against women and declare his intent to enter women’s spaces, is a dangerous man and one who will attract public comment.

Follow the fun on X
https://x.com/SVPhillimore

Here we are now: Entertain us

I have had now 7 years and counting of the various tactics used to 'silence' those who won't comply with prevailing orthodoxy. How are those tactics holding up?

https://sarahphillimore.substack.com/p/here-we-are-now-entertain-us

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CriticalCondition · 30/08/2025 12:25

RedToothBrush · 30/08/2025 09:54

It's a feature of coercive control and crops up on various UK guidance for identifying coercive control.

Would you mind pointing me in the direction of this guidance please @RedToothBrush ? I know of someone who might find it very helpful in their situation. I've had a look but can't track it down.

AnSolas · 30/08/2025 12:20

MyAmpleSheep · 30/08/2025 10:49

I think if you look you’ll see a “/s” at the end of the caption to that photo, indicating that sarcasm was intended. So the intended meaning was “no women’s rights have been trashed by my using the women’s toilet”.

Which is of course incorrect.

That /s is beginners sarcasm

/s level two is adding a fuckyou to the subtext
Which is what that act is all about.

DuesToTheDirt · 30/08/2025 11:45

MyAmpleSheep · 30/08/2025 10:49

I think if you look you’ll see a “/s” at the end of the caption to that photo, indicating that sarcasm was intended. So the intended meaning was “no women’s rights have been trashed by my using the women’s toilet”.

Which is of course incorrect.

I saw the /s but its meaning went right over my head. As it would.

Merrymouse · 30/08/2025 11:17

DrudgeJedd · 30/08/2025 11:02

Did Maugham run his tweets past the GLP in-house defamation lawyer first, how would that conversation go?
"Matt I'm thinking of accusing another barrister of driving an unstable exhibitionist to attempt suicide, will that be ok?"
"Sure Jolyon, that'll be fine. Crack on and make sure you do it on two different social media platforms so as many people as possible see it"

It feels as though this quote could be paraphrased as

"defamation lawyer Matthew Gill explained that this kind of speech does not break the law in any way, but it is generally possible to make a complaint about a member of a professional body to their regulator, even though they may ignore it."

DrudgeJedd · 30/08/2025 11:02

Did Maugham run his tweets past the GLP in-house defamation lawyer first, how would that conversation go?
"Matt I'm thinking of accusing another barrister of driving an unstable exhibitionist to attempt suicide, will that be ok?"
"Sure Jolyon, that'll be fine. Crack on and make sure you do it on two different social media platforms so as many people as possible see it"

GLP are going after Sarah Philmore and are going to lose
MyAmpleSheep · 30/08/2025 10:55

AnSolas · 30/08/2025 10:12

Thats effen daft (I can understand where the tradition is tradition)

The BSB should force ex member to make it clear that they are ex-members

[(Edit) or if the ex-member is using the title that they will face BSB action if they break the rules the same way they would if they were still registered ( eg like a medical doc) ]

Edited

Pretty sure they do face the same rules; however as a non practicing barrister JM can’t have his income affected by BSB action against him. A practice restriction won’t affect him, but he dan still be disbarred, at which point he can no longer title himself as a barrister or KC, as “barrister” is a protected title.

SionnachRuadh · 30/08/2025 10:55

AnSolas · 30/08/2025 10:12

Thats effen daft (I can understand where the tradition is tradition)

The BSB should force ex member to make it clear that they are ex-members

[(Edit) or if the ex-member is using the title that they will face BSB action if they break the rules the same way they would if they were still registered ( eg like a medical doc) ]

Edited

IANAKC, but since it's a title formally bestowed by the King, there's probably some convoluted special process that allows it to be taken away again, like when people are stripped of their honours. I would think it's outwith the competency of the BSB.

MyAmpleSheep · 30/08/2025 10:49

DuesToTheDirt · 30/08/2025 10:21

You know that photo (Sophie Molly selfie in the women's loo), captioned "Another day of destroying women's rights," shows very clearly his thinking, and actually most of it follows GC thinking.

  • he knows he's not a woman
  • he knows women have rights
  • he knows those rights don't include him, because there is a clear distinction between him and women
  • he knows that his presence in the toilet is unacceptable to women, and for him this is a key reason to be there

The mere existence of something that is women-only is provocative for him, and something to be "destroyed".

I think if you look you’ll see a “/s” at the end of the caption to that photo, indicating that sarcasm was intended. So the intended meaning was “no women’s rights have been trashed by my using the women’s toilet”.

Which is of course incorrect.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 30/08/2025 10:33

AnSolas · 30/08/2025 10:12

Thats effen daft (I can understand where the tradition is tradition)

The BSB should force ex member to make it clear that they are ex-members

[(Edit) or if the ex-member is using the title that they will face BSB action if they break the rules the same way they would if they were still registered ( eg like a medical doc) ]

Edited

I'm a retired doctor but my name is still on the medical register & if I were to commit some heinous crime like misgendering & deadnaming Mr Euan Weddell then he can still report me to the GMC. In fact I would welcome it. I am Spartacus. I am Sarah Phillimore.

SerendipityJane · 30/08/2025 10:22

Maaate · 30/08/2025 08:46

That last sentence needs to be on a t-shirt or something 😄

Echoes of Arkell v. Pressdram

DuesToTheDirt · 30/08/2025 10:21

deadpan · 28/08/2025 20:46

Him and India Willoughby seem to love taking photos of themselves in the ladies.

You know that photo (Sophie Molly selfie in the women's loo), captioned "Another day of destroying women's rights," shows very clearly his thinking, and actually most of it follows GC thinking.

  • he knows he's not a woman
  • he knows women have rights
  • he knows those rights don't include him, because there is a clear distinction between him and women
  • he knows that his presence in the toilet is unacceptable to women, and for him this is a key reason to be there

The mere existence of something that is women-only is provocative for him, and something to be "destroyed".

SerendipityJane · 30/08/2025 10:20

RedToothBrush · 29/08/2025 22:26

Sarah Phillimore via twitter
Happy to report I will be making application to the JKR fund to pursue action in defamation against Jolyon Maugham.

Bahaha hahahaha hahahaha haha

Anyone recall how Sally Bercow FA and FO that sometimes you can't avoid the court action even if you do say sorry ?

AnSolas · 30/08/2025 10:12

Maaate · 30/08/2025 10:05

It's one of those titles that when you earn it you can keep it even if you no longer practice as a barrister

Thats effen daft (I can understand where the tradition is tradition)

The BSB should force ex member to make it clear that they are ex-members

[(Edit) or if the ex-member is using the title that they will face BSB action if they break the rules the same way they would if they were still registered ( eg like a medical doc) ]

Maaate · 30/08/2025 10:05

AnSolas · 30/08/2025 09:46

Is KC not protected ????

Seriously???

Anybodys cat can call themselves KC and the BSB are forced to say "naw not our business"?

It's one of those titles that when you earn it you can keep it even if you no longer practice as a barrister

RedToothBrush · 30/08/2025 09:54

AnSolas · 30/08/2025 09:51

The US calls it "paper terrorism" (or something like that) where the offender uses regulation and laws to target harrass and force the person into defending themselves for no reason.

It's a feature of coercive control and crops up on various UK guidance for identifying coercive control.

AnSolas · 30/08/2025 09:51

RedToothBrush · 30/08/2025 09:27

It's increasingly viable that Sarah herself has a potential case of harassment against certain idiots, which she could in theory bring.

As do several other women.

At some point one of those women will take it to court.

The US calls it "paper terrorism" (or something like that) where the offender uses regulation and laws to target harrass and force the person into defending themselves for no reason.

AnSolas · 30/08/2025 09:46

SionnachRuadh · 30/08/2025 09:16

GLP has a very weird setup. It's not a law firm and it's not a charity (though theoretically it's a "nonprofit"), so that's two regulatory regimes it's not subject to.

And Jolyon is no longer registered as a barrister though he's ostentatiously kept the KC title.

An uncharitable person might think GLP was specifically set up to keep its activities opaque. They might even think it's a bit of a fucking cheek to keep dobbing SP in to the BSB when Jolyon has made sure he himself is no longer regulated by the BSB.

Is KC not protected ????

Seriously???

Anybodys cat can call themselves KC and the BSB are forced to say "naw not our business"?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 30/08/2025 09:27

This thread is so funny.
These people would also be funny if they weren't so misogynistic, vexatious and continually targeting women.

RedToothBrush · 30/08/2025 09:27

Maaate · 30/08/2025 08:46

That last sentence needs to be on a t-shirt or something 😄

It's increasingly viable that Sarah herself has a potential case of harassment against certain idiots, which she could in theory bring.

As do several other women.

At some point one of those women will take it to court.

RedToothBrush · 30/08/2025 09:25

ArabellaScott · 29/08/2025 22:53

Owen! Owen! Pls someone let him know he is needed to swoop in and help out. This is right up his street.

Absolutely. Get Owen to do an exclusive interview with Molly & Co for the Guardian.

Please.

Make it happen.

SionnachRuadh · 30/08/2025 09:16

GLP has a very weird setup. It's not a law firm and it's not a charity (though theoretically it's a "nonprofit"), so that's two regulatory regimes it's not subject to.

And Jolyon is no longer registered as a barrister though he's ostentatiously kept the KC title.

An uncharitable person might think GLP was specifically set up to keep its activities opaque. They might even think it's a bit of a fucking cheek to keep dobbing SP in to the BSB when Jolyon has made sure he himself is no longer regulated by the BSB.

Maaate · 30/08/2025 08:46

That last sentence needs to be on a t-shirt or something 😄

GLP are going after Sarah Philmore and are going to lose
ArabellaScott · 30/08/2025 08:41

Sarah is immensely brave and admirable. She's been harassed relentlessly by these idiots.

AnSolas · 30/08/2025 08:31

Merrymouse · 30/08/2025 07:58

JM named SP and her profession and made a very specific claim about her and knows that she has funding for a legal case.

No idea on the ins and outs of GLP funding, but it’s almost as though he is trying to create a court case.

Or is that too much of a conspiracy theory?

🤷‍♀️
Its has a in house employee who's job is to create media stories in a "law firm"

He (not the firms SM ) via X threw in JKR into the mix.

If I remember my debt collection and the law has not changed too much the winner of a court case can appoint the trustee to recover funds?

The there is the possible court orders.
This kinda kicked off in 2014 against a company called Red Flag and involved court request to access employees personal tec and personal SM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rte.ie/amp/1465018/

So he has no assurance that a case would be fought under UK law. No idea if X says what country holds jurisdiction in the EU but that is likely Ireland due to it being HQ there?

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rte.ie/amp/1465018

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