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GLP are going after Sarah Philmore and are going to lose

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fromorbit · 28/08/2025 09:10

Get the popcorn folks. GLP is getting ready to lose again.

They are going after barrister Sarah Phillimore for referring to a man as a man. They think they are going to lawfare her into silence.

Her blog:

Here we are now: Entertain us
I have had now 7 years and counting of the various tactics used to 'silence' those who won't comply with prevailing orthodoxy. How are those tactics holding up?
https://sarahphillimore.substack.com/p/here-we-are-now-entertain-us?

The only thing is other TAs have already tried this on Phillimore multiple times. They went to the Bar Council their claims were dismissed. They all failed. More to the point this ‘Kate’ is the same guy complaining again who already failed. Sarah Phillimore knows the law and likes explaining it to TAs and making them lose. So she doesn't even resent the attempt.

As Sarah has stated "They pick on someone who not only enjoys this but has now a vast repository of knowledge about the law in this area."

Sarah Phillimore

Because I don’t tweet as a public body, an employer or provider of goods or services. I am not subject to the Equality Act. I tweet as a private individual and I will say again. You can’t change sex. A man cannot be a woman. I cannot be compelled to call a man a woman.

A trans identifying man such as ‘Kate’ who frequently takes to the public stage to urge violence against women and declare his intent to enter women’s spaces, is a dangerous man and one who will attract public comment.

Follow the fun on X
https://x.com/SVPhillimore

Here we are now: Entertain us

I have had now 7 years and counting of the various tactics used to 'silence' those who won't comply with prevailing orthodoxy. How are those tactics holding up?

https://sarahphillimore.substack.com/p/here-we-are-now-entertain-us

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Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 01:19

RedToothBrush-

putting your fingers in your ears and closing your eyes and refusing to accept this fact isn’t going to change this reality for you I’m afraid.

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 01:16

RedToothBrush-

trans women exist as do trans men, gender fluid men and women. This will always be the case. Whether they are still men or still women and vice versa is a matter of opinion.

one thing is definitely true though - they will always exist and deserve equal respect and tolerance the same as everyone else. You can accept this or not but this isn’t going to change whether you like it or not

RedToothBrush · 27/12/2025 01:13

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 01:08

RedToothBrush-

just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean it’s not true I’m afraid

Yep I know. I'm glad we can agree on this: transwomen don't like being male do they, but it doesn't mean it isn't true cos reality / biology / law.

Fab. Glad we had this conversation and built some bridges.

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 01:10

RedToothBrush-

spoken like a true Terf. Lost your knitting needle by any chance and now cross? 🤣

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 01:08

RedToothBrush-

just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean it’s not true I’m afraid

RedToothBrush · 27/12/2025 01:08

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 01:07

RapidOnsetGenderCritic-

im sorry to hear this but trans people do exist as do hence fluid individuals. My husband is gender fluid and I also have a cousin who is trans.

I empathise with your situation as it cannot be easy for either of you. But please try to understand things from his perspective. It must be even harder for him. I am not sure how old he is but at least allow him to dress and express himself as he wishes not doing so will just lead to further tensions and affect him.

hormones are a different matter but at 18 he will be an adult. Please try to understand and support him.

Put the Baileys down Jolyon.

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 01:07

RapidOnsetGenderCritic-

im sorry to hear this but trans people do exist as do hence fluid individuals. My husband is gender fluid and I also have a cousin who is trans.

I empathise with your situation as it cannot be easy for either of you. But please try to understand things from his perspective. It must be even harder for him. I am not sure how old he is but at least allow him to dress and express himself as he wishes not doing so will just lead to further tensions and affect him.

hormones are a different matter but at 18 he will be an adult. Please try to understand and support him.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 27/12/2025 01:06

Around 95% of sex offenders are biologically male. The rate of sexual offences amongst the TIM prison population far exceeds that of the general male prison population. Perhaps government should come up with some way of segregating services based on biological sex?

RedToothBrush · 27/12/2025 01:05

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:17

If TERFs want mumsnet to continue to be an echo chamber and are unwilling or unable to be challenged then to be it. It’s healthy to be challenged. Only insecure people like Trump ( who ironically is also very anti trans like TERFs) do not like to be challenged. I’m simply pointing out my opinion is shared by most feminists. This is a fact

Our YouGov survey said

"A-uhhhhhh"

RedToothBrush · 27/12/2025 01:04

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:52

It’s almost as if TERFs show no logic and refuse to answer simple questions or look at actual facts.

not one TERFs has addressed the issue or any question I’ve raised. Some people might say they don’t want to as it raises questions on their belief system and what it’s based on

Bored with Reddit tonight?

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 27/12/2025 00:55

Can someone parse for me "yes true but me we know overwhelmingly so not food random trans woman in a bathroom" because I confess I'm not clever enough to do so?

Sammy, I have a son who is in danger of damaging his physical health because he thinks this will make him happier. This idea is insane, but many people have taken it on board. I am still open to reasoned arguments to explain why it is not actually an insane idea, but I've been looking for them for four years and non-one seems able to point me to them. In the meantime, I take what little humour I can find, some of it dark, from the absurdities and even typos I come across.

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:52

It’s almost as if TERFs show no logic and refuse to answer simple questions or look at actual facts.

not one TERFs has addressed the issue or any question I’ve raised. Some people might say they don’t want to as it raises questions on their belief system and what it’s based on

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:49

moto748e-

why the obsession with this? The law in different countries says different things. This topic has become on obsession with TERFs and has nothing to do with women’s safety.

answer the question as I’m intrigued? Why the obsession?

moto748e · 27/12/2025 00:47

We'll settle with with science, and the law.

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:45

RapidOnsetGenderCritic-

Still focussing on one spelling mistake. Is that seriously all youve got 😂😂😂

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:43

lcakethereforeIam-

are you trying to be funny or insulting as you are failing badly on both. Just look at reality not some bogey trans woman hiding in the women’s bathroom 😂

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 27/12/2025 00:42

Sammybabes16 · 26/12/2025 23:59

your lack of self awareness is quite incredible. You do realise you are in the sane side as those lot punching down on trans people? The vast majority of real feminist groups support trans rights. I know this is an inconvenient truth for TERFs.

You do realise you are in the sane side

We certainly are.

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:41

GrimDamnFanjo-

so stop obsessing with a danger that dozens exist and stilly fight for women’s rights not some obsession with a danger that really doesn’t exist. It’s Ahmed know who are the problem - husbands sons family members friends acquaintances and lovers- not some random trans woman or dude in a dress! 😒

lcakethereforeIam · 27/12/2025 00:40

Are you the tra whose coming was foretold? The ghost of terfmas past? Will Tiny TIM live?

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:39

GrimDamnFanjo-

yes true but me we know overwhelmingly so not food random trans woman in a bathroom. You do know that more mothers were killed by their teenage sons in 2023 than by men they did not know? This is a fact. An oh none of those teenage sons were trans by the way 🙄

the TERF obsession with this is totally illogical.

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:36

GardyLou
aww bless you too 😉

GrimDamnFanjo · 27/12/2025 00:36

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:04

Murasaki- what I do know is that if you think that most women support TERFs - they do not. If you think trans women or men in dresses calling themselves women are the real danger to women you seriously need your head examined.

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But trans women are actually men. I don’t care how they wish to present themselves, but that’s the facts. Men are the real danger, always have been and always will be. Putting on a dress, taking hormones or having surgery cannot change your sex.
of course we all know namalt but I’d prefer not to take my chances.

GardyLou · 27/12/2025 00:36

Awww bless you 😍

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:35

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY-

are they? Gosh

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:34

GardyLou-

Gosh trans people do seem to make you so angry. 😂

it’s so sad