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GLP are going after Sarah Philmore and are going to lose

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fromorbit · 28/08/2025 09:10

Get the popcorn folks. GLP is getting ready to lose again.

They are going after barrister Sarah Phillimore for referring to a man as a man. They think they are going to lawfare her into silence.

Her blog:

Here we are now: Entertain us
I have had now 7 years and counting of the various tactics used to 'silence' those who won't comply with prevailing orthodoxy. How are those tactics holding up?
https://sarahphillimore.substack.com/p/here-we-are-now-entertain-us?

The only thing is other TAs have already tried this on Phillimore multiple times. They went to the Bar Council their claims were dismissed. They all failed. More to the point this ‘Kate’ is the same guy complaining again who already failed. Sarah Phillimore knows the law and likes explaining it to TAs and making them lose. So she doesn't even resent the attempt.

As Sarah has stated "They pick on someone who not only enjoys this but has now a vast repository of knowledge about the law in this area."

Sarah Phillimore

Because I don’t tweet as a public body, an employer or provider of goods or services. I am not subject to the Equality Act. I tweet as a private individual and I will say again. You can’t change sex. A man cannot be a woman. I cannot be compelled to call a man a woman.

A trans identifying man such as ‘Kate’ who frequently takes to the public stage to urge violence against women and declare his intent to enter women’s spaces, is a dangerous man and one who will attract public comment.

Follow the fun on X
https://x.com/SVPhillimore

Here we are now: Entertain us

I have had now 7 years and counting of the various tactics used to 'silence' those who won't comply with prevailing orthodoxy. How are those tactics holding up?

https://sarahphillimore.substack.com/p/here-we-are-now-entertain-us

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Greyskybluesky · 27/12/2025 09:32

The knitting needle was a particularly entertaining detail!

As if we would ever lose one.

lcakethereforeIam · 27/12/2025 09:31

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:43

lcakethereforeIam-

are you trying to be funny or insulting as you are failing badly on both. Just look at reality not some bogey trans woman hiding in the women’s bathroom 😂

Tra humbug!

Myalternate · 27/12/2025 09:29

He was out of his depth. I don’t feel sorry for him, he just couldn’t compete.

MissKomodoDragonsBrunch · 27/12/2025 09:28

So, is Sammy’s Ahmed a “crussdresser” or a dude in a dress? That’s about all I could draw from the ranting…

#saneside

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/12/2025 09:27

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 03:12

Ereshkigalangcleg-

your reponses are hilarious 🤣

Why thank you 😘

ArabellaScott · 27/12/2025 09:19

Morning, women of Terfland. I assume the sudden deluge in the night was an egg-nog related incident from an angry visitor?

Myalternate · 27/12/2025 09:18

Good morning all! ❤️ 😁

Sammybabe certainly kept me entertained throughout a long night and I thank him for that.

Greyskybluesky · 27/12/2025 09:09

Ah, we've all done it. We've all raided the Christmas drinks cabinet when we were 14.

Just don't forget to top the bottles up with water Sammybabes. Mum and dad will never know!

RedToothBrush · 27/12/2025 08:54

polid · 27/12/2025 07:42

I suspect our resident TRA is quite young, so there probably won’t be any responses until after midday. I hope I’m wrong though cos it’s very entertaining!

Someone got a mobile phone for Christmas. And his parents haven't set adequate age appropriate controls on his phone.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 27/12/2025 08:47

potpourree · 27/12/2025 08:22

This poster using the term "guy in a dress" to refer to trans women is on the right side of history, aye?

Really?

He also referred to "men in dresses calling themselves women".

potpourree · 27/12/2025 08:22

This poster using the term "guy in a dress" to refer to trans women is on the right side of history, aye?

Really?

VaddaABeetch · 27/12/2025 08:08

Thank you Terfini for keeping me entertained during a sleepless night.

Poor little Sammy Boy trying his bestest to debate with the big meaney wimmins. Bless

Kucinghitam · 27/12/2025 08:04

I'm thrilled by the Christmas gift of exquisite Righteous Ire And Wisdom upon this thread. Let it be recorded that my gratitude is limitless.

#operationletthemspeak

Helleofabore · 27/12/2025 07:51

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/12/2025 05:35

The “sane side” blunder is just the chocolate coated cherry on the cake 😂

Indeed.

bonfireoftheverities · 27/12/2025 07:44

What a weird little wind-up bot, presumably escaped from reddit.

polid · 27/12/2025 07:42

I suspect our resident TRA is quite young, so there probably won’t be any responses until after midday. I hope I’m wrong though cos it’s very entertaining!

Namelessnelly · 27/12/2025 07:01

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 00:43

lcakethereforeIam-

are you trying to be funny or insulting as you are failing badly on both. Just look at reality not some bogey trans woman hiding in the women’s bathroom 😂

You ok buddy?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/12/2025 05:36

Myalternate · 27/12/2025 04:13

The only reason I’m up at this unearthly hour is because I’m caring for one of my male children who has come down with a nasty cough that makes him gag until he throws up 🥺

I think I’ll try to close my eyes for a while.
Night Helle x

I’m not in the UK at the moment so I’m wide awake! Hope your DS feels better soon and you can both get some rest ❤️

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/12/2025 05:35

Helleofabore · 27/12/2025 03:31

“your lack of self awareness is quite incredible. You do realise you are in the sane side as those lot punching down on trans people? The vast majority of real feminist groups support trans rights. I know this is an inconvenient truth for TERFs.”

This one is rather ironic with facts simply plucked out of the air. Brilliant stuff.

The “sane side” blunder is just the chocolate coated cherry on the cake 😂

DrJump · 27/12/2025 05:11

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 01:47

DrJump-

  1. How many women were assaulted by transwomen in female bathrooms in the U.K. in the last 12 months?
  2. Why are TERFs main focus on trans women when the overwhelming vast majority of assaults on women are done by men we know - not some random trans woman
  3. Trans women , trans men, gender fluid men and women will always exist so what is your solution to this ‘problem’ in Terfland?
  1. I don't have these figures to hand. I can do some digging. Just wanted to check how many is an acceptable number?

2)My main focus isn't on trans women, personally my feminist work focuses on mothers and mothering, in particular breastfeeding. I know many other feminist who focus on huge range of other issues from women in prison, women in the work force, domestic violence, women in conflict areas etc etc.

3)We use sex based language and service provision where required and we continue to break the the cage of socially constructed gender.

Helleofabore · 27/12/2025 04:40

“+lHowever it doesn’t work because safeguarding principles are based on the previous year’s assault rate. Neither is it based on ‘gender identity’ segregation”

Obviously, this should be

However it doesn’t work because safeguarding principles are NOT based on the previous year’s assault rate. Neither are safeguarding principles based on ‘gender identity’ segregation…

Helleofabore · 27/12/2025 04:22

Myalternate · 27/12/2025 04:13

The only reason I’m up at this unearthly hour is because I’m caring for one of my male children who has come down with a nasty cough that makes him gag until he throws up 🥺

I think I’ll try to close my eyes for a while.
Night Helle x

You have my sympathy. That is really concerning. I hope he gets better soon and you catch up with sleep.

Helleofabore · 27/12/2025 04:20

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 01:47

DrJump-

  1. How many women were assaulted by transwomen in female bathrooms in the U.K. in the last 12 months?
  2. Why are TERFs main focus on trans women when the overwhelming vast majority of assaults on women are done by men we know - not some random trans woman
  3. Trans women , trans men, gender fluid men and women will always exist so what is your solution to this ‘problem’ in Terfland?

”How many women were assaulted by transwomen in female bathrooms in the U.K. in the last 12 months?”

Don’t you mean ‘How many women were harmed by transwomen in female bathrooms in the U.K. in the last 12 months?

Because safeguarding principles are not there simply to protect from assault, they are there to protect from many harms, including the harm of the non-consensual sharing of single sex provisions with the opposite sex.

This is the fallacy of narrowing the focus in an attempt to minimise the issue so it appears to be not an issue. However it doesn’t work because safeguarding principles are based on the previous year’s assault rate. Neither is it based on ‘gender identity’ segregation because risk of harm is based on the sex class of a person which is unchangeable.

Still, I recommend that Sammybabes actually reads the threads here. Lots of great safeguarding explanations here on MN.

Myalternate · 27/12/2025 04:13

The only reason I’m up at this unearthly hour is because I’m caring for one of my male children who has come down with a nasty cough that makes him gag until he throws up 🥺

I think I’ll try to close my eyes for a while.
Night Helle x

Helleofabore · 27/12/2025 04:06

“trans women exist as do trans men, gender fluid men and women. This will always be the case. Whether they are still men or still women and vice versa is a matter of opinion.
one thing is definitely true though - they will always exist and deserve equal respect and tolerance the same as everyone else. You can accept this or not but this isn’t going to change whether you like it or not”

The old ‘gender identities have always existed’ rewriting of history.

Whether they are still men or still women and vice versa is a matter of opinion.

No. It is a matter of scientific fact. Of course, there are people who hold the opinion that established science can be changed using philosophical theory alone. In this instance, they would be wrong though.

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