Is it true KJK has been no-platformed by FiLia?

Good for her for abusing veiled women in the street in order to make money from it?

Seriously?

So you would jump off a cliff to prove gravity didn’t exist?

Absolutely. She was banned from mumsnet for being consistently and persistently abusive to other posters. I remember, I was there.

Quite 🧡🙌

I'm not going to bother going into detail to refute everything you've said as there's no point argjuing with anyone who thinks Trump should be congratulated for being good for women. He's a fascist and wants to remove women's rights. Knowing what a woman isn't enough if that person wants to put us back in the kitchen / be free to rape our daughers. Please, raise your standards!

But just to the persistent rumour that KJK - then Posie Parker - was removed from her for being GC? Nah, she was removed from here for how she treated other posters - being a bully and other unpleasantness. Not for her beliefs as far as I can remember. (And I've been her a very long time, now).

Please don't forget KJK makes money from her content.

Good for her.

"I am Muslim, and I am totally against face covering because it is a cultural tradition, not something from Islam. But I am also against her attitude — she is rude, and it’s not her business"

Men who beat their wives may also claim it a cultural and would be against her pointing this out and say it is none of her business.

Please don't forget KJK makes money from her content. (I believe YouTube has demonitised her now, thank goodness, but it's not her only channel, and she can still solicit donations from it even so).

The more commercial her content, the more it will get shared, the more money she makes from it. Being a content creator often does push people to more extreme views, as it's rewarded financially, especially if one has no morals to speak of.

KJK claims to have had 16 million views from that Free your Face snippet on Twitter alone. That would make her between a few hundred and a couple of thousand on Twitter just for that clip on that channel.

She's contraversial not because she has principles, but because it makes her ££££.

For a woman who is only out for herself, she has put herself in harms way an awful lot. And it is hardly a secret she has been banned from most platforms or why. There are loads of women who were doing a huge amount to be supportive of women’s rights who were banned from Mumsnet purely for calling a man a man as well as her. A few years back censorship and forced speech was much more prevalent and KJK did a lot to help cut through that and move the Overton window at a time when many other ‘GC’ feminists were still ‘being kind’ and going along with men’s fantasies.

The ‘far right’ accusation is hardly a new one. KJK has used what resources she can to get a voice when the left has been entirely captured by transideology. A leading Australian politician has been forced to step down as a bankrupt after being found guilty of libel over this in regards of another politician who attended one of her meetings. As for Trump - he is due praise for his protection of the category of ‘women’ in the states and for measures to protect children from the ghoulish ‘gender affirming’ industry. That doesn’t mean everything he does is right or praise-worthy. It is back to that thing - if someone you disagree with believes in gravity do you think they are right that gravity exists or will you jump off a cliff to prove they are wrong?

As for being a difficult character - what else would you expect from someone who is prepared to wade upstream against the political tide? Only difficult characters are prepared to do that. You don’t have to like them personally.

Absolutely, hijab is a feminist issue. There are some incredibly brave women standing up for their rights on this and they deserve our support.

KJK has a history of being pally with white nationalists. Do you really think blurting out "free your face" comes from a place of solidarity? How do you think it made the woman on the receving end feel? Supported or judged and attacked?

Let's look at the coments on YouTube then. How about this one:

"I am Muslim, and I am totally against face covering because it is a cultural tradition, not something from Islam. But I am also against her attitude — she is rude, and it’s not her business"

KJK performs feminity driven by commercial trends e.g. using makeup (as do many women, of course). Some feminists may feel she's letting the side down by embracing commercial beauty standards which they feel oppresse women. Would a good tactic to be to shout in her face about it and run away? Would she feel they were on their side? No? Why not?

I don't know much about why the statement is made, its always struck me as very weird when I see it come up Australian films - like what is it meant to achieve? You make a good point.

This is a tricky one. On the one hand, I'm deeply sceptical of why women would wear full face coverings like that. I agree fear of severe consequences is probs often involved.

Otoh I would have been a bit careful about how she did that. In the wrong context, she could be putting the woman at risk from other sources of abuse- we know there have been cases of women being abused for wearing coverings, bc cowards often prefer to attack people who can't fight back as well, rather than the men who cause most of the issues.

Not saying she shouldn't have done,,but I would have tried to do it fairly quiet area, for one, and not as a huge public statement.

I can’t imagine KJK would be interested in Filia. She was no-platformed years ago by WPUK.

There are women from many different political backgrounds who don’t rate Filia. I take it for what it is, a big event with lots of brilliant attendees and interesting and inspiring speakers. It’s not without its flaws, but none of these organisations are!

It’s an embarrassment because all the organisations doing it don’t actually employ many or any aboriginal people, and if aboriginal people actually kicked people off their land everyone would be up in arms.

That’s very wrong on both counts.

goes up to women with veiled faces and has a go at them

told them "Free your faces. Free yourselves" while walking past them

So walking past them? Did you read the responses she received from women living under Islamic oppression that she got as a result of this? The heartbreaking stories of women forced to cover up for fear of death?

Yup, you've met the real KJK.

I've met her quite a few times and this is exactly who she is.

I have had personal run ins with her in a capacity I won't say on here because it's outing and because MN doesn't let you name change mid thread any more. She was absolutely vile to me when I was doing nothing more than asserting some reasonable boundaries. She can be extremely abusive, verbally aggressive, high handed and entitled. Her attitude was genuinely quite narcissistic. She had a 'don't you know who I am' tone and this was even before she was a household name. I don't trust her in any capacity.

It's on her own accounts. She went up to women in veils (at speakers corner I think?) and told them "Free your faces. Free yourselves" while walking past them. I mean, she would claim she is on their side against the partiarcy, but seriously. She didn't stop to speak to them, she just blurted it out at them as she went past.

It's about having a go at Islam, not supporting women. It can't have been nice for the women on the receiving end. That's not solidarity, it's grandstanding and creating content for clicks.

It's on Youtube , you can find it if you search but I'm not going to give her more publicity by posting it here.

Do you have a source for the veiled faces thing?

I've heard people on here defend the Gariepy & other white nationalist thing by saying that white nationalists' children need to be protected from the trans too. Which was something I hadn't thought of in that way, and is ofc completely true.

But surely people like Gariepy would know about trans already? I'd be suprised if they didn't. Quite a lot of trans people are neo Nazis, after all.

The reason WPUK dropped her from their panel was because they realised she supported Tommy Robinson. As a left wing org, that's fair enough IMO!

They said no more about it for years, but she wouldn't let it lie as she LOVES an enemy to lambast. She thrives on us-and-them division. Classic narc tactic.

I agree for the most part...the fascist labelling was unforgivable, put her life in danger 😡

But, CarobBean72, you say your friend hadn't attacked KJK, it was unprovoked? I hope this is the only time that she's done that.

I will extend my phrase "conviently closes" to "conviently closes, makes dormant or forces closure through failing to submit accounts".

Happy now? It's 3 times to date.

I do see that she's submitted a couple of sets of accounts, however, so it's not none. It's certainly far from a full set though! Do you really believe she's only made £10 since 2023?

I mean, she may be putting them through another business with her husband as the director or something. But even if it's being declared somewhere, it's not exactly transparent for her donors, is it?!

Incidentally, most political parties are unincorporated associations. However, KJK chose to set up as a public limited company. Just like Reform / the Brexit Party.

Make of that what you will.

Weirdly, I was thinking about this subject earlier today.

I was trying to unpick whether I’ve caught myself in a purity spiral as far as KJK is concerned. (I was discussing feminism and trans rights with DP).

I agree we don’t have to share all opinions and values. Feminists on the right and the left should be equally welcome, even if they don’t agree on the path.

But is there ever a point where other views become so problematic that it’s not a purity spiral to stop feeling ok with being aligned?

I struggled with KJK’s fangirling of Trump because he actively harms women in multiple ways. No issues with someone being a Republican or Conservative but to actively and repeatedly praise an individual that’s so deeply misogynistic is hard to reconcile with believing in women’s rights.

And I don’t believe that she gives all women a platform - she’s incredibly spiteful about any woman who doesn’t share her right-wing views.

So it feels as if although she did amazing work early doors, she’s now more of a political mouthpiece for the right - and if she’s a Tommy Robinson supporter as PP says, then that really is pretty unpleasant stuff she’s endorsing.

I’m autistic so sometimes grapple with nuance. I’m naturally left wing but follow both left and (some) right wing accounts as I think an echo chamber isn’t helpful and I like to challenge myself.

If they have never invited her to speak then withdrawn the invitation then they haven't no platformed her. Not inviting someone to speak isn't no platforming them. Why does anyone think KJK would be invited to speak at Filia? That's a mad idea.