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Is it true KJK has been no-platformed by FiLia?

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IwantToRetire · 27/08/2025 18:27

Seen this on a number of threads on facebook, and wondered if it was true?

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SouthWamses · 30/08/2025 18:40

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 18:39

No, sorry! Definitely not a troll!!

You're right 2004 was Labour, apologies. The 2010 act was defintiely Tory though.

My point is you can't blame left or right. And that stands. Both parties have a misogyny problem, as I said.

Edited

I presume you mean the Equality Act 2010? That was also Labour

SouthWamses · 30/08/2025 18:39

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 18:37

I don't agree with him though. He might know what a woman is, but for a totally different reason than I do. The right want women to be a distinct category in order to oppress, not liberate us. I'm not voting for my own cage to be built.

Here's a pie chart showing the difference. Not perfect, but hopefull you get the idea.

He has banned ‘gender affirming’ mastectomies on children and you don’t agree with him on that? I thought you said you did?

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 18:39

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 18:36

OK. I am starting to think you're just goading people now, or a troll.

"The GRA, which kicked off this shit show, was brought in, in 2024 - under Tory Government, did you forget that?"

The GRA was brought in under a Labour Government. In 2004.

No, sorry! Definitely not a troll!!

You're right 2004 was Labour, apologies. The 2010 act was defintiely Tory though.

My point is you can't blame left or right. And that stands. Both parties have a misogyny problem, as I said.

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 18:37

SouthWamses · 30/08/2025 18:29

But you said there was no point discussing with me because I thought Trump should be praised for specific actions, like Title X or prohibiting mastectomies on children? Why is it ‘tunnel vision’ for me to say things that I think he has done right that you also agree with?

There is a huge issue with politics generally including in the UK, where people cannot bring themselves to acknowledge when someone they usually profoundly disagree with does something correct. I usually totally disagree with Diane Abbott on nearly everything, but on assisted suicide I think she is totally correct. I would never vote for her but I would be happy to stand alongside her on that issue. I would also never vote for Joanne Cherry, despite her support for women’s rights, as she is SNP and I think independence, especially with the SNP at the helm, would cause huge harms to women. But I would praise her for voting against the GRR Bill. I also think if we want politicians to do more things ‘correctly’ we should say when they do things we agree with.

I don't agree with him though. He might know what a woman is, but for a totally different reason than I do. The right want women to be a distinct category in order to oppress, not liberate us. I'm not voting for my own cage to be built.

Here's a pie chart showing the difference. Not perfect, but hopefull you get the idea.

Is it true KJK has been no-platformed by FiLia?
catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 18:36

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 18:19

Yeah, Starmer is a sell-out, but not because he's left wing!

Last time I checked, the Communist Party (definitely left wing!) was the only political party who knows what a women is.

There are loads of left wing GC people. Absolute bollocks to suggest otherwise.

The GRA, which kicked off this shit show, was brought in, in 2024 - under Tory Government, did you forget that?

And the GRA 2010 act was also under the Tories. with the Lib Dems in coalition.

No party has covered themselves in roses. This "the left wing don't know what a woman is" is bollocks which is designed to drive you to the right wing (and it works, it seems).

Truth is, most of the political parties have a MEN problem, in that sexism and misogyny is rife on all sides, sadly. At least the left have proved themselves over time to be more likely to stand up for women's rights.

OK. I am starting to think you're just goading people now, or a troll.

"The GRA, which kicked off this shit show, was brought in, in 2024 - under Tory Government, did you forget that?"

The GRA was brought in under a Labour Government. In 2004.

SouthWamses · 30/08/2025 18:35

AliasGrace47 · 30/08/2025 18:28

Exactly, what a foul & disgusting thing to say.

This is TRA -style 'you're on the same side as Putin' level of debate.

well, quite, that was my point!

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 18:32

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 18:23

Here is WPUK's statement- it had nothing to do with Tommy Robinson.

https://womansplaceuk.org/2022/06/22/womans-place-and-posie-parker/

Thanks for sharing. In that, they say:

"In May 2018, we became aware of several tweets by KJK that made pejorative comments about Muslim communities. We believed these tweets would contribute to a hostile environment for people from minoritised communities."

Thanks for sharing. I've googled and there is a tweet in which she mentions Tommy Robinson. They may not have singled out that tweet, but I remember it being mentioned here at the time. It's not outright support, but it's a more snide "I don't support him but I don't see what he did wrong" kind of thing. On its own, could just be naive. With the other things she's posted then and since, she's racist.

Racism is on the rise in this country - surely you can see it? If we don't stand against it, we're headed for troubling times. And racists don't have a good record on women's rights!

SouthWamses · 30/08/2025 18:29

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 18:06

Nope. Like Audrey Lorde I do not live a single issue life. Neither do you. I suggest you try to look further than this one issue, it appears to be giving you tunnel vision which is allowing you to support the removal of women's rights.

Obviously I don't agree with the last point on their list, but here are some other issues you may benefit from knowing about.

nationalpartnership.org/20-ways-the-trump-administration-has-already-harmed-women-and-families/

But you said there was no point discussing with me because I thought Trump should be praised for specific actions, like Title X or prohibiting mastectomies on children? Why is it ‘tunnel vision’ for me to say things that I think he has done right that you also agree with?

There is a huge issue with politics generally including in the UK, where people cannot bring themselves to acknowledge when someone they usually profoundly disagree with does something correct. I usually totally disagree with Diane Abbott on nearly everything, but on assisted suicide I think she is totally correct. I would never vote for her but I would be happy to stand alongside her on that issue. I would also never vote for Joanne Cherry, despite her support for women’s rights, as she is SNP and I think independence, especially with the SNP at the helm, would cause huge harms to women. But I would praise her for voting against the GRR Bill. I also think if we want politicians to do more things ‘correctly’ we should say when they do things we agree with.

AliasGrace47 · 30/08/2025 18:28

BackToLurk · 30/08/2025 18:22

This is TRA -style 'you're on the same side as Putin' level of debate.

Exactly, what a foul & disgusting thing to say.

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 18:23

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 18:19

This is not true: "The reason WPUK dropped her from their panel was because they realised she supported Tommy Robinson".

Here is WPUK's statement- it had nothing to do with Tommy Robinson.

https://womansplaceuk.org/2022/06/22/womans-place-and-posie-parker/

Woman’s Place and Kellie-Jay Keen (aka Posie Parker) - Woman's Place UK

There is much misinformation about WPUK's position in relation to Kellie-Jay Keen (Posie Parker). Read WPUK's statement to find out more...

https://womansplaceuk.org/2022/06/22/womans-place-and-posie-parker/

BackToLurk · 30/08/2025 18:22

SouthWamses · 30/08/2025 17:59

I take it you also mastectomies for 13 year olds who have been indoctrinated into believing they were boys is a good idea? Afterall you don’t think stopping them is a good thing…

This is TRA -style 'you're on the same side as Putin' level of debate.

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 18:19

Absentmindedsmile · 30/08/2025 18:05

I’ve never been to this conference, all the strong intelligent women in the room is exciting. So I thought I might go. Having read up a bit about it, and seen some reviews / comments / mean girl type refs on here I think I’ll give it a miss, sadly. Not that they’d care of course.

It’s the left leaning silently judging / criticising people without saying their name etc. No thanks.

I’m not sure how anyone who supports women’s rights, or calls themself a ‘feminist’ (whatever that means), can support the left / labour in the uk. Starmer has been openly hostile to women, his own ex MP stated Labour have a woman problem. They think some women can have a penis.

It sounds like FiLia might just believe the same. So I’m guessing I wouldn’t be allowed a seat at the cool girls table either.

Edited

Yeah, Starmer is a sell-out, but not because he's left wing!

Last time I checked, the Communist Party (definitely left wing!) was the only political party who knows what a women is.

There are loads of left wing GC people. Absolute bollocks to suggest otherwise.

The GRA, which kicked off this shit show, was brought in, in 2024 - under Tory Government, did you forget that?

And the GRA 2010 act was also under the Tories. with the Lib Dems in coalition.

No party has covered themselves in roses. This "the left wing don't know what a woman is" is bollocks which is designed to drive you to the right wing (and it works, it seems).

Truth is, most of the political parties have a MEN problem, in that sexism and misogyny is rife on all sides, sadly. At least the left have proved themselves over time to be more likely to stand up for women's rights.

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 18:19

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 17:10

The reason WPUK dropped her from their panel was because they realised she supported Tommy Robinson. As a left wing org, that's fair enough IMO!

They said no more about it for years, but she wouldn't let it lie as she LOVES an enemy to lambast. She thrives on us-and-them division. Classic narc tactic.

This is not true: "The reason WPUK dropped her from their panel was because they realised she supported Tommy Robinson".

AliasGrace47 · 30/08/2025 18:18

SouthWamses · 30/08/2025 17:48

"I am Muslim, and I am totally against face covering because it is a cultural tradition, not something from Islam. But I am also against her attitude — she is rude, and it’s not her business"

Men who beat their wives may also claim it a cultural and would be against her pointing this out and say it is none of her business.

Surely you're not equating wearing a veil with beating someone? There are a huge problems w the veil. But if you approach a man beating his wife, he might get beaten himself by others and that's fine.

Whereas making a public spectacle of women wearing the veil could expose them to violent abuse.

These are all cases of women who were attacked for covering their hair, not even wearing a burqa (tho ofc it would be wrong to attack someone whatever they were wearing)

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/138836/pdf/&ved=2ahUKEwjBuM2_hLOPAxUDR0EAHcnkDSs4ChAWegQILxAB&usg=AOvVaw2KonGlBs7LPK4XNUmrOQ_z

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=trt.global/world/article/13109854&ved=2ahUKEwi9q_TWhLOPAxVFUUEAHT13MBs4HhAWegQIMhAB&usg=AOvVaw3CYUZlRSJ6QSxQLiOAUJHY

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=globalnews.ca/news/11272289/oshawa-pizza-pizza-swarming-attack/&ved=2ahUKEwjBuM2_hLOPAxUDR0EAHcnkDSs4ChAWegQIQRAB&usg=AOvVaw2jiq5oDPJMvHX_9TBkmZTu

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news/24992419.elizabeth-line-hate-crime-woman-wearing-hijab-assaulted/&ved=2ahUKEwjg19KkhLOPAxV9XUEAHXLzKkoQFnoECEQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0eERiraTx7ROyrDaVrwW7U

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.nbcnews.com/news/world/muslim-woman-attacked-library-suspect-tried-set-hijab-fire-canadian-po-rcna197965&ved=2ahUKEwjg19KkhLOPAxV9XUEAHXLzKkoQFnoECBwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1sMtE_VthNIQ-iIXp8I5Y9

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8rkx37vd6zo&ved=2ahUKEwiD0bbqg7OPAxXkQEEAHeHsK7YQFnoECCQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1Be8sccSPePNaVu5jvKhM7

https://www.google.com/url?opi=89978449&rct=j&sa=t&source=web&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2Fc8rkx37vd6zo&usg=AOvVaw1Be8sccSPePNaVu5jvKhM7&ved=2ahUKEwiD0bbqg7OPAxXkQEEAHeHsK7YQFnoECCQQAQ

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 18:12

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 17:00

OK, let's look at what she has. There are 4 companies:

  1. Women by definition. Set up in 2020 but never submitted accounts. Disolved in 2021.
  2. Adult Human Female store, set up in 2021. Submitted micro accounts in 2023 & 4, for the financial years 2021/2 and 2022/3. You're right it wasn't disolved, but it was marked "dormant" in March of this year, claiming assets of £1.
  3. Let Women Speak set up in 2023, has submitted only one set of micro accounts,claims to only have £10, no assets.

Meanwhile, KJK has been running her tshirt shop and other promotions, plus taking donations. Are we to believe that since she last submitted accounts up to April 2023, she's made NO money from the shop? So much so that she's marked the company dormant? I don't belive that. So it must be in yet another company, perhaps with somoene else at the director, or not being declared.

  1. Party of Women, set up in 2024. No accounts were submitted. It was struck off because she never filed documents.

Thanks for the link to the Electoral Commission.
So, despite never filing accounts for her POW company, it shows she received total income of £58,753, made up of donations of £44,000, the remainder marked "misc".

Her expenditure is marked as:

£23,099 on "fund raising" (for what, exactly?)
£23,510 on "staff" (who did this go to, I wonder? A family member maybe?)
£6,899 on "misc."
£5,245 left over.

What was that money spent on? We'll never know as she's not transparant about it.

It's notable also IMO that all these entities are Private Limited Companies. All the activitst I know who set up organisaitons for political reasons set them up as non-profit entites such as CICs and are totally transparent about where the money goes.

KJK sets up limited companies and is opaque about where the money goes and what it's spent on.

I still want to know, where's the money from her business since 2023?
Where are the remaining thousands in donations for the women's refuge? Did they go into her pocket?
Why hasn't she delared any income since 2023?
Why didn't she file accounts for her Party of Women company?

Seriously can you not see this is a grift? If it sounds like a duck, walks like a duck...

Edited

I was referring to Party of Women, not Adult Human Female, in relation to strike off initiated by the registrar and 'Women by Definition" as dissolved in 2021.

Compulsory strike off can also be because the company has stopped trading or is dormant - how do you know it was because accounts for POW weren't filed and was a deliberate action by KJK for nefarious reasons?

KJK did not receive "income", the company did. She didn't do POW alone, there were other women involved- should they not be paid for their time? You're making a lot of "I'm just asking questions" type comments on the accounts which I can understand but if you tried to interpret accounts many times like I have, a lot of it sounds like gibberish and gets "creative". Perhaps an accountant will see this and comment.

She has, AFIAK, addressed why she had to setup a private limited company for POW and that it was imposed on her vs a choice to go that route. Most political parties have some form of company registration so its not unusual. I believe she also addressed the refuge but could be wrong.

Look, I agree that ANY organisation taking donations should be transparent on where the money is spent - 100%. The same could be said for all political parties.

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 18:11

AliasGrace47 · 30/08/2025 18:09

FILIA are certainly GC. You can dislike them for other reasons, but surely you don't think they believe men are women?

Oh, I didn't pick that up on my first read of that post!

Yeah, that's ridiculous! FiLia have put their neck out to put on massive GC conferences in the face of huge opposition and fuckery from TRA activists and sympathisers.

They're baddass!!

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 18:09

Absentmindedsmile · 30/08/2025 18:05

I’ve never been to this conference, all the strong intelligent women in the room is exciting. So I thought I might go. Having read up a bit about it, and seen some reviews / comments / mean girl type refs on here I think I’ll give it a miss, sadly. Not that they’d care of course.

It’s the left leaning silently judging / criticising people without saying their name etc. No thanks.

I’m not sure how anyone who supports women’s rights, or calls themself a ‘feminist’ (whatever that means), can support the left / labour in the uk. Starmer has been openly hostile to women, his own ex MP stated Labour have a woman problem. They think some women can have a penis.

It sounds like FiLia might just believe the same. So I’m guessing I wouldn’t be allowed a seat at the cool girls table either.

Edited

That's a shame. I've been a few times and it's great. So many women there, and there's a lot about the wider feminist issues that we could be talking about if we didn't have to fight the GC cause!

There are many different women there I'd never normally meet in real life, and lots of issues to learn about that I had no idea about. The women-only disco is great, too.

It's a shame if you let people who have no intention of going themselves put you off!

AliasGrace47 · 30/08/2025 18:09

Absentmindedsmile · 30/08/2025 18:05

I’ve never been to this conference, all the strong intelligent women in the room is exciting. So I thought I might go. Having read up a bit about it, and seen some reviews / comments / mean girl type refs on here I think I’ll give it a miss, sadly. Not that they’d care of course.

It’s the left leaning silently judging / criticising people without saying their name etc. No thanks.

I’m not sure how anyone who supports women’s rights, or calls themself a ‘feminist’ (whatever that means), can support the left / labour in the uk. Starmer has been openly hostile to women, his own ex MP stated Labour have a woman problem. They think some women can have a penis.

It sounds like FiLia might just believe the same. So I’m guessing I wouldn’t be allowed a seat at the cool girls table either.

Edited

Who should they support instead? Tories? Reform? No one? Personally I'm leaning to no-one.

AliasGrace47 · 30/08/2025 18:09

Absentmindedsmile · 30/08/2025 18:05

I’ve never been to this conference, all the strong intelligent women in the room is exciting. So I thought I might go. Having read up a bit about it, and seen some reviews / comments / mean girl type refs on here I think I’ll give it a miss, sadly. Not that they’d care of course.

It’s the left leaning silently judging / criticising people without saying their name etc. No thanks.

I’m not sure how anyone who supports women’s rights, or calls themself a ‘feminist’ (whatever that means), can support the left / labour in the uk. Starmer has been openly hostile to women, his own ex MP stated Labour have a woman problem. They think some women can have a penis.

It sounds like FiLia might just believe the same. So I’m guessing I wouldn’t be allowed a seat at the cool girls table either.

Edited

FILIA are certainly GC. You can dislike them for other reasons, but surely you don't think they believe men are women?

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 18:07

SouthWamses · 30/08/2025 17:59

I take it you also mastectomies for 13 year olds who have been indoctrinated into believing they were boys is a good idea? Afterall you don’t think stopping them is a good thing…

Don't be ridiculous.

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 18:06

SouthWamses · 30/08/2025 17:56

Well you seem to think ensuring title X refers to women and thus protecting women’s sports is a problem….

Nope. Like Audrey Lorde I do not live a single issue life. Neither do you. I suggest you try to look further than this one issue, it appears to be giving you tunnel vision which is allowing you to support the removal of women's rights.

Obviously I don't agree with the last point on their list, but here are some other issues you may benefit from knowing about.

nationalpartnership.org/20-ways-the-trump-administration-has-already-harmed-women-and-families/

Absentmindedsmile · 30/08/2025 18:05

I’ve never been to this conference, all the strong intelligent women in the room is exciting. So I thought I might go. Having read up a bit about it, and seen some reviews / comments / mean girl type refs on here I think I’ll give it a miss, sadly. Not that they’d care of course.

It’s the left leaning silently judging / criticising people without saying their name etc. No thanks.

I’m not sure how anyone who supports women’s rights, or calls themself a ‘feminist’ (whatever that means), can support the left / labour in the uk. Starmer has been openly hostile to women, his own ex MP stated Labour have a woman problem. They think some women can have a penis.

It sounds like FiLia might just believe the same. So I’m guessing I wouldn’t be allowed a seat at the cool girls table either.

SouthWamses · 30/08/2025 17:59

I take it you also mastectomies for 13 year olds who have been indoctrinated into believing they were boys is a good idea? Afterall you don’t think stopping them is a good thing…

SouthWamses · 30/08/2025 17:56

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 17:54

Are you feeling quite OK?

Well you seem to think ensuring title X refers to women and thus protecting women’s sports is a problem….

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 17:54

SouthWamses · 30/08/2025 17:54

So you would jump off a cliff to prove gravity didn’t exist?

Are you feeling quite OK?

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