Is it true KJK has been no-platformed by FiLia?

Jesus Christ: three of you on this thread. So transparent. Get a hobby.

Excuse me? I've been on MN the best part of 2 decades and I'm expressing my genuinely held views. How am I trolling?

If you think I'm a troll, please do go ahead and report me to MN.

I lost the link to this thread but have refound it and feel a bit guilty starting a thread without double checking the facts. Just like twitter also check a facebook post against others.

So the title I gave to this thread is (I think wrong but could also be true?) but seems to have come from KJK supporting Julia Beck who has been "no platformed".

Not surprising really as AGCL, having tried to enforce such a strict purity line on WPUK that they just stopped, are now well entrenched in FiLia. But the vendetta continues.

So really it is the same old attack on the women they are always going after.

This is her facebook post, well at least the start of it:

This year I was invited by a fellow lesbian feminist to help organize a workshop at FiLiA on compulsory heterosexuality. Now I learn that FiLiA cannot allow me to be a part of this workshop, because in 2019 I spoke at the Heritage Foundation. The argument goes that FiLiA has taken a clear anti-racist stance, and my participation as a speaker would endanger FiLiA's anti-racist stance in Brighton, where the political climate is difficult, because I have failed to publicly distance myself from the Heritage Foundation. Unfortunately I haven't broadcasted any political views - or any change in political views, for that matter - in the public domain proving beyond a doubt that my political views are actually anti-racist and anti-right. To my (ignorant) surprise, I am still enough of a public figure to be dis-invited from speaking on feminist platforms. So let me shout into the void what is now likely an overdue public statement, as The Public Figure Julia Beck.

See https://www.facebook.com/jbeck182/posts/pfbid0BtCepf8wfu2fbxncd2rmAMNFPyheC2woQoUQ25s4xTJxtHSpD12wW2Z9Wxdtc4DDl

So in fact stretches back past the Elephant workshop thread on FWR to the fall out when some UK feminist went to support US feminists who shared a stage with the Heritage Foundation.

Question?

Should I ask MNHQ to change thread title?

Is it okay to reproduce all facebook post.

Sorry for not fact checking

I remember exactly why some GC feminists dont like her. It started because she said she doesn't like to see young school girls in a hijab. I think primary school girls.

Sigh.

My point on this, if you read back, is that both left and right have a misogyny problem, and it's not correct to say the left are fully for self-ID. Plenty of the left are not. Plenty of the right wing are.

It's why women have had to come together to work cross-party on this.

And yet Labour voted for Self ID in Scotland.

Please don't belittle all the work, money, time and sacrifices women here put into standing against Self ID, I'm ordering to pretend the Tories are to be congratulated for Self ID being quashed.

It took a huge amount of effort from women from all sides of the political spectrum to get to that point.

And then realised there were problems and stopped it.

It wasn't introduced because of the work women did, including many MNers, to oppose it. The Tories thought it would go through easily.

FILIA are certainly GC. You can dislike them for other reasons, but surely you don't think they believe men are women?

I mean the consulation on the reforms to the GRA Recognition Act, intended to reform the original GRA to allow self-ID and which basically kicked off the GC movement in earnest.

That was in 2018 and under Theresa May.

And after a consultation, self id for a GRC wasnt introduced. (Although a GRC is self id really, given how few people are refused and there's no limit to the number of times someone can apply. And that was written into the orginal act)

The Conservatives did reduce the cost, though.

Based on your GRA comment, that I have responded to, and you here shifting goal posts without any evidence to this claim about KJK and Tommy Robinson, it's clear you're not here in good faith and stirring so I'm out. If you'd like to share evidence that KJK's alleged support of Tommy Robinson led to WPUK's statement, happy to re-engage and discuss.

I presume you mean the Equality Act 2010? That was also Labour

This is ridiculous. Trump is a fascist. To have feminists championing him is ridicuous. He is no friend of women.

A stopped clock...

He has banned ‘gender affirming’ mastectomies on children and you don’t agree with him on that? I thought you said you did?

Thanks for sharing. In that, they say:

"In May 2018, we became aware of several tweets by KJK that made pejorative comments about Muslim communities. We believed these tweets would contribute to a hostile environment for people from minoritised communities."

Thanks for sharing. I've googled and there is a tweet in which she mentions Tommy Robinson. They may not have singled out that tweet, but I remember it being mentioned here at the time. It's not outright support, but it's a more snide "I don't support him but I don't see what he did wrong" kind of thing. On its own, could just be naive. With the other things she's posted then and since, she's racist.

Racism is on the rise in this country - surely you can see it? If we don't stand against it, we're headed for troubling times. And racists don't have a good record on women's rights!

Weirdly, I was thinking about this subject earlier today.

I was trying to unpick whether I’ve caught myself in a purity spiral as far as KJK is concerned. (I was discussing feminism and trans rights with DP).

I agree we don’t have to share all opinions and values. Feminists on the right and the left should be equally welcome, even if they don’t agree on the path.

But is there ever a point where other views become so problematic that it’s not a purity spiral to stop feeling ok with being aligned?

I struggled with KJK’s fangirling of Trump because he actively harms women in multiple ways. No issues with someone being a Republican or Conservative but to actively and repeatedly praise an individual that’s so deeply misogynistic is hard to reconcile with believing in women’s rights.

And I don’t believe that she gives all women a platform - she’s incredibly spiteful about any woman who doesn’t share her right-wing views.

So it feels as if although she did amazing work early doors, she’s now more of a political mouthpiece for the right - and if she’s a Tommy Robinson supporter as PP says, then that really is pretty unpleasant stuff she’s endorsing.

I’m autistic so sometimes grapple with nuance. I’m naturally left wing but follow both left and (some) right wing accounts as I think an echo chamber isn’t helpful and I like to challenge myself.