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Is it true KJK has been no-platformed by FiLia?

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IwantToRetire · 27/08/2025 18:27

Seen this on a number of threads on facebook, and wondered if it was true?

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OldCrone · 01/09/2025 06:05

VoulezVouz · 01/09/2025 04:50

Ah. I see. Are you implying the TRAs there were closet Nazis? That has already been explored and debunked.

I do think if there is an opposing group of neonazis - holding offensive banners targeting trans people - and protesters have already been cautioned to keep calm by a heavy police presence, the TRAs aren’t going to be screaming at the neonazis. They’re an excitable bunch.

TRAs aren’t going to be screaming at the neonazis

Of course they're not. They're not going to attack a group of men who have a reputation for violence.

It's much easier to protest against a group of women holding a nonviolent rally, talking in a calm way about issues that concern them.

Showing that in reality, TRAs are quite aware of which people are men and which are women. If they were really concerned about threats to their "community", they'd aim their protests at the violent men rather than the peaceful women.

OldCrone · 01/09/2025 05:51

Libertybellz · 01/09/2025 00:00

lol no kjk doesn’t welcome all women. Far from it. She welcomes all women that aren’t as well known as she is. Would she welcome Jean hatchet? Kathleen stock? Julie Bindel? Stella o Malley? Jane Claire jones? Sal Grover? Rhona hotchkiss? Sarah Ditum? Rosie Duffield? Sonia sodha? Helen Lewis? Hadley Freeman? Janice turner?

I don't know. Why don't you ask her?

ThatBlackCat · 01/09/2025 04:53

VoulezVouz · 01/09/2025 04:50

Ah. I see. Are you implying the TRAs there were closet Nazis? That has already been explored and debunked.

I do think if there is an opposing group of neonazis - holding offensive banners targeting trans people - and protesters have already been cautioned to keep calm by a heavy police presence, the TRAs aren’t going to be screaming at the neonazis. They’re an excitable bunch.

Oh, so it's ok for them to scream at the feminists, but not nazis, because they're men and 'excitable'....

Newsflash, they didn't even try to chant at the nazis. They didn't even bother. I'm in Australia. The rally and subsequent various angles of footage shows the TRAs saw and knew the nazis were there but they paid them no attention. They just screamed and drowned out the women.

VoulezVouz · 01/09/2025 04:50

SouthWamses · 31/08/2025 22:14

Support and take part in the transactivists protests? Certainly I remember the footage from Australia showed that the transactivists didn’t protest the neonazis at all. Given the noise and screams they directed at LWS you would think if they objected to the neonazis they might have directed some of their shouts at them, but they didn’t.

Ah. I see. Are you implying the TRAs there were closet Nazis? That has already been explored and debunked.

I do think if there is an opposing group of neonazis - holding offensive banners targeting trans people - and protesters have already been cautioned to keep calm by a heavy police presence, the TRAs aren’t going to be screaming at the neonazis. They’re an excitable bunch.

VoulezVouz · 01/09/2025 04:42

SouthWamses · 31/08/2025 23:47

But the transactivists didn’t protest the neonazis in Australia did they?

What does this mean exactly?

SouthWamses · 01/09/2025 00:40

Holidayholiday2025 · 31/08/2025 23:59

Eh? What has that got to do with the far right turning up to KJK's events?

Pure deflection!

My point is you are very keen to link KJK with the far right yet are yourself doing so to deflect the horrors in your corner; the abusive, violent transactivist who turn up to every LWS event to drown out women, to threaten them, to hold placards wishing their death, to physically attack them. Transactivists who may already have convictions for murder and other crimes. Men and women who hide their faces so they can not be held to account. The extremist violence associated with transideology becomes ever more apparent; yet another transactivist school shooting in America just this week. Yet in the face of all this violence, you decry a woman who lets other women speak.

SouthWamses · 01/09/2025 00:30

Libertybellz · 01/09/2025 00:00

lol no kjk doesn’t welcome all women. Far from it. She welcomes all women that aren’t as well known as she is. Would she welcome Jean hatchet? Kathleen stock? Julie Bindel? Stella o Malley? Jane Claire jones? Sal Grover? Rhona hotchkiss? Sarah Ditum? Rosie Duffield? Sonia sodha? Helen Lewis? Hadley Freeman? Janice turner?

Have any of them turned up at LWS and been turned down for the microphone?

Olderbadger1 · 01/09/2025 00:21

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> Hague Mothers: International, volunteer-run campaign to change an international treaty that forces victim-survivors of DV - mothers & children - back to their abuser. https://www.hague-mothers.org.uk/
> Women First: co-produced with women who have had lived experience of the sex trade, offers guidance to local authorities who want to improve opportunities for women to exit the sex trade. Unequivocal in framing prostitution as male violence. https://www.filia.org.uk/women-first
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!00 speakers have been announced to date for this year's Conference, from every continent - https://www.filia.org.uk/filia-2025-speakers The logistics are mind-blowing and I, for one, am hugely grateful to every one of the women who gives up acres of their time to make this possible.

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Libertybellz · 01/09/2025 00:00

OldCrone · 31/08/2025 23:13

As you well know

Do I? Thanks for letting me know what I know.

Do you have some evidence that the far right take part? I've watched some of the LWS events, but I don't recall any "far right" women speaking at them. If any of them were far right they must have not made this obvious when they spoke.

I remember a young woman at one event who took the mic as though she was going to speak, but then ran off and tried to steal the microphone. She turned out to be a TRA, so there has been at least one TRA who has taken part in an event (if you can call stealing the mic "taking part").

But she does welcome all women, and they are all encouraged to take part.

lol no kjk doesn’t welcome all women. Far from it. She welcomes all women that aren’t as well known as she is. Would she welcome Jean hatchet? Kathleen stock? Julie Bindel? Stella o Malley? Jane Claire jones? Sal Grover? Rhona hotchkiss? Sarah Ditum? Rosie Duffield? Sonia sodha? Helen Lewis? Hadley Freeman? Janice turner?

Holidayholiday2025 · 31/08/2025 23:59

SouthWamses · 31/08/2025 23:49

I think it might be useful to remind ourselves of some of the people transactivists align themselves with:

Stephen Ireland, Founder of Pride:
https://www.surrey.police.uk/news/surrey/news/2025/two-men-jailed-after-being-found-guilty-of-multiple-child-sex-offences/

Eh? What has that got to do with the far right turning up to KJK's events?

Pure deflection!

SouthWamses · 31/08/2025 23:51

James Rennie, CEO of LBGT Youth Scotland:
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/uk/leaders-of-biggest-scottish-paedophile-ring-jailed-idUSTRE59S2P6/

SouthWamses · 31/08/2025 23:49

I think it might be useful to remind ourselves of some of the people transactivists align themselves with:

Stephen Ireland, Founder of Pride:
https://www.surrey.police.uk/news/surrey/news/2025/two-men-jailed-after-being-found-guilty-of-multiple-child-sex-offences/

SouthWamses · 31/08/2025 23:47

Holidayholiday2025 · 31/08/2025 23:25

I've already answered this. My previous post links to an article that names several far right people who took part, and I also name an organisation and an individual in my post.

And yes, I assumed you understood there is a difference between people who protest an event and who turn up to support, that would seem pretty obvious to me.

But the transactivists didn’t protest the neonazis in Australia did they?

SouthWamses · 31/08/2025 23:44

Dogsrbrill · 31/08/2025 23:30

I went to a LWS in London , Donald trump was there and he gave us all £10 each plus expenses. The TRAs were there as well , hundreds blowing whistles and banging drums which they'd had to buy themselves, poor things.

Only £10? I get millions from American right wing Christian Fundamentalists that I spend on buying Harry Potter books and merch.

Dogsrbrill · 31/08/2025 23:30

I went to a LWS in London , Donald trump was there and he gave us all £10 each plus expenses. The TRAs were there as well , hundreds blowing whistles and banging drums which they'd had to buy themselves, poor things.

Holidayholiday2025 · 31/08/2025 23:25

OldCrone · 31/08/2025 23:13

As you well know

Do I? Thanks for letting me know what I know.

Do you have some evidence that the far right take part? I've watched some of the LWS events, but I don't recall any "far right" women speaking at them. If any of them were far right they must have not made this obvious when they spoke.

I remember a young woman at one event who took the mic as though she was going to speak, but then ran off and tried to steal the microphone. She turned out to be a TRA, so there has been at least one TRA who has taken part in an event (if you can call stealing the mic "taking part").

But she does welcome all women, and they are all encouraged to take part.

I've already answered this. My previous post links to an article that names several far right people who took part, and I also name an organisation and an individual in my post.

And yes, I assumed you understood there is a difference between people who protest an event and who turn up to support, that would seem pretty obvious to me.

OldCrone · 31/08/2025 23:13

Holidayholiday2025 · 31/08/2025 22:06

Transactivists turn up to protest her events. The far right turn up to support and take part. As you well know.

As you well know

Do I? Thanks for letting me know what I know.

Do you have some evidence that the far right take part? I've watched some of the LWS events, but I don't recall any "far right" women speaking at them. If any of them were far right they must have not made this obvious when they spoke.

I remember a young woman at one event who took the mic as though she was going to speak, but then ran off and tried to steal the microphone. She turned out to be a TRA, so there has been at least one TRA who has taken part in an event (if you can call stealing the mic "taking part").

But she does welcome all women, and they are all encouraged to take part.

Holidayholiday2025 · 31/08/2025 22:43

IwantToRetire · 31/08/2025 20:51

Have just seen on the whose going to FiLia thread that the organisers have had the arrogance to organise a workshop on TransWidows and guess who have not been invited to speak.

@TinselAngel

This is so typical of left cooption of important issues.

They have to own everything,

What a disgrace.

Sadly this has been going on for decades. All the politcal carpet baggers finding a niche spot for themselves based on the ground work of somebody else.

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This is sounding a bit mad.

My work puts on conferences. (Nothing to do with feminism).

It would be bonkers if speakers started demanding to speak at our events because they thought they had some kind of right to be on the program.

Is no one allowed to have a conversation about their lived experience of being married to a transwoman without Tinsel speaking? Can't someone else have a turn?

Holidayholiday2025 · 31/08/2025 22:22

SouthWamses · 31/08/2025 22:14

Support and take part in the transactivists protests? Certainly I remember the footage from Australia showed that the transactivists didn’t protest the neonazis at all. Given the noise and screams they directed at LWS you would think if they objected to the neonazis they might have directed some of their shouts at them, but they didn’t.

People have pointed out far right commentators at KJK's events.

Her reply is she doesn't care and she would align with the devil if she thought it would help. She's said it several times on her videos.

So, she knows they attend, doesn't care and won't tell them not to come. She could denounce them if she wanted to, but she is very clear that she doesn't want to do that.

If you want the evidence, simply try googling, as the TRAs are certainly taking notes.

Here's one example of the far right at her Glasgow Standing for Women event.

And yes, I'm linking to a TRA article, but it includes evidence (screenshots) of several members of far right organisations at the Glasgow event

https://transsafety.network/posts/glasgow-far-right-standing-for-women/

When she went to Brighton, Hearts of Oak live streamed the event and Sophie Corcoran took the mic.

So yes, far right attending and supporting, and KJK making it absolutely clear they are welcome to come again.

Far right turn out in force supporting gender critical feminist rally in Glasgow

A rogues gallery of holocaust deniers, extreme racists and religious bigots came out in support of Kellie Jay Keen's TERF rally

https://transsafety.network/posts/glasgow-far-right-standing-for-women/

SouthWamses · 31/08/2025 22:14

Holidayholiday2025 · 31/08/2025 22:06

Transactivists turn up to protest her events. The far right turn up to support and take part. As you well know.

Support and take part in the transactivists protests? Certainly I remember the footage from Australia showed that the transactivists didn’t protest the neonazis at all. Given the noise and screams they directed at LWS you would think if they objected to the neonazis they might have directed some of their shouts at them, but they didn’t.

IwantToRetire · 31/08/2025 22:09

Transactivists turn up to protest her events. The far right turn up to support and take part. As you well know.

Please evidence this statement.

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Holidayholiday2025 · 31/08/2025 22:06

OldCrone · 31/08/2025 21:00

Other people from the far right turn up at her events over here, repeatedly.

Transactivists also repeatedly turn up at her events. Is she also aligned with them?

Transactivists turn up to protest her events. The far right turn up to support and take part. As you well know.

OldCrone · 31/08/2025 21:00

Holidayholiday2025 · 31/08/2025 18:15

I think you mean SFW not FWS, but anyway, AliasGrace47's question was whether Neo Nazis were turning up to SFW events, and they definitely were at one of her events in Australia, doing a Nazi salute and with a banner saying something about "paedo freaks".

AliasGrace didn't ask if KJK invited them, she asked if they were there, and they were.

Other people from the far right turn up at her events over here, repeatedly.

KJK makes it very clear, every time she's criticised for not keeping the far right out of her events, that "everybody" is welcome, so even if she's not specifically inviting them, she's giving them the green light to attend by refusing to tell them they're not welcome.

Other people from the far right turn up at her events over here, repeatedly.

Transactivists also repeatedly turn up at her events. Is she also aligned with them?

IwantToRetire · 31/08/2025 20:51

Have just seen on the whose going to FiLia thread that the organisers have had the arrogance to organise a workshop on TransWidows and guess who have not been invited to speak.

@TinselAngel

This is so typical of left cooption of important issues.

They have to own everything,

What a disgrace.

Sadly this has been going on for decades. All the politcal carpet baggers finding a niche spot for themselves based on the ground work of somebody else.

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