Is it true KJK has been no-platformed by FiLia?

Women objecting to trans activism doesn’t equate feminism. HTH.

And KJK doesn't affect feminism, since she's not a feminist.

But I'm sure you know that

Feminism is a movement. HTH.

Feminism is a movement. HTH.

Women objecting to transactivism isn't a movement. Lots of women object to it for a million different reasons.

If you don't agree with what KJK is doing, it's not an issue, because it would appear that neither you nor she are including you in it.

Excuse me? "My corner"?!!! Who do you think you're talking to? You've got a bit confused here!

I'm a GC feminist who has been involved in this movement for many, many years, plus a mumsnetter of the best part of 20 years. I've been called a lot of things, but never a TRA before😂

I used to be an ardent support of KJK, have met her IRL plenty of times and used to go to her events.

I want to bring women's attention to KJK's engagement with the far right and her refusal to take any steps to prevent them turning up at her events, as it's important we know what's going on under the banner of GC feminism.

With the alarming rise of racism in our society going on right now, it's really important we understand who is leeching onto our movement - especially as regards the far right - as it will harm us all if we just pretend it's not happening.

This has got exactly nothing to do with TRAs and everything to do with keeping our own house in order.

Tinsel has commented on the other Filia thread about not being invited.

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Excuse me? "My corner"?!!! Who do you think you're talking to? You've got a bit confused here!

I'm a GC feminist who has been involved in this movement for many, many years, plus a mumsnetter of the best part of 20 years. I've been called a lot of things, but never a TRA before😂

I used to be an ardent support of KJK, have met her IRL plenty of times and used to go to her events.

I want to bring women's attention to KJK's engagement with the far right and her refusal to take any steps to prevent them turning up at her events, as it's important we know what's going on under the banner of GC feminism.

With the alarming rise of racism in our society going on right now, it's really important we understand who is leeching onto our movement - especially as regards the far right - as it will harm us all if we just pretend it's not happening.

This has got exactly nothing to do with TRAs and everything to do with keeping our own house in order.

Before sniping at FiLiA for perceived faults, please check out who they actually are (www.filia.org.uk/our-team) and what they do, especially their VAWG campaigns - all run by volunteers e.g.
> Hague Mothers: International, volunteer-run campaign to change an international treaty that forces victim-survivors of DV - mothers & children - back to their abuser. https://www.hague-mothers.org.uk/
> Women First: co-produced with women who have had lived experience of the sex trade, offers guidance to local authorities who want to improve opportunities for women to exit the sex trade. Unequivocal in framing prostitution as male violence. https://www.filia.org.uk/women-first
> Kakuma Campaign supporting lesbian mothers trapped in a refugee camp & subject to constant violence and abuse. Campaign aims to bring them to safety. https://www.filia.org.uk/kakuma-campaign

!00 speakers have been announced to date for this year's Conference, from every continent - https://www.filia.org.uk/filia-2025-speakers The logistics are mind-blowing and I, for one, am hugely grateful to every one of the women who gives up acres of their time to make this possible.

My point is you are very keen to link KJK with the far right yet are yourself doing so to deflect the horrors in your corner; the abusive, violent transactivist who turn up to every LWS event to drown out women, to threaten them, to hold placards wishing their death, to physically attack them. Transactivists who may already have convictions for murder and other crimes. Men and women who hide their faces so they can not be held to account. The extremist violence associated with transideology becomes ever more apparent; yet another transactivist school shooting in America just this week. Yet in the face of all this violence, you decry a woman who lets other women speak.

Yes, it's much easier to target a group of women holding a peaceful event rather than a group of violent men.

It doesn't reflect well on you though.

So you are once again saying you will only protest women because you think they are powerless against you? But you expect those powerless women to protest the violent neonazis that transactivist were afraid to instead? It seems rather that transactivists don’t actually object to neonazis

No. In this particular circumstance, the TRAs were aware of what KJK represented and were protesting against that. This neonazi group is particularly unpleasant and known for their shock tactics. Why provoke them further?

What about when that far right is holding a banner saying “Destroy Paedo Freaks” as the neonazis were at the rally? I’m sure the TRAs would object to that. They seem natural opposites.

No. In this particular circumstance, the TRAs were aware of what KJK represented and were protesting against that. This neonazi group is particularly unpleasant and known for their shock tactics. Why provoke them further?

They're finally talking about trans widows and haven't invited Tinsel? She IS the voice of trans widows!

It's the name of her organisation, ffs.

Did they say why?

That TRAs don’t object to the far right.

So you are saying TRAs only demonstrate against women because they know they can intimidate them with their violence and know women are less powerful than them and can’t do anything about it? So it is just a show of male violence against women. A display of male power?

Oh, so it's ok for them to scream at the feminists, but not nazis, because they're men and 'excitable'....

Newsflash, they didn't even try to chant at the nazis. They didn't even bother. I'm in Australia. The rally and subsequent various angles of footage shows the TRAs saw and knew the nazis were there but they paid them no attention. They just screamed and drowned out the women.

Have just seen on the whose going to FiLia thread that the organisers have had the arrogance to organise a workshop on TransWidows and guess who have not been invited to speak.

@TinselAngel

This is so typical of left cooption of important issues.

They have to own everything,

What a disgrace.

Sadly this has been going on for decades. All the politcal carpet baggers finding a niche spot for themselves based on the ground work of somebody else.

What does this mean exactly?

Ah. I see. Are you implying the TRAs there were closet Nazis? That has already been explored and debunked.

I do think if there is an opposing group of neonazis - holding offensive banners targeting trans people - and protesters have already been cautioned to keep calm by a heavy police presence, the TRAs aren’t going to be screaming at the neonazis. They’re an excitable bunch.

lol no kjk doesn’t welcome all women. Far from it. She welcomes all women that aren’t as well known as she is. Would she welcome Jean hatchet? Kathleen stock? Julie Bindel? Stella o Malley? Jane Claire jones? Sal Grover? Rhona hotchkiss? Sarah Ditum? Rosie Duffield? Sonia sodha? Helen Lewis? Hadley Freeman? Janice turner?