Where do people think the transvestites have gone?

FFS!

It’s never just about presenting as female and enjoying wearing women clothes though. The clothing in question always features short dresses or skirts, tights (another well known fetish), with heavy make-up and lipstick.

And fake breasts. The giveaway that it's not just about the clothing. If it was just about wearing dresses they would just wear dresses cut for men on obviously male bodies.

It’s never just about presenting as female and enjoying wearing women clothes though. The clothing in question always features short dresses or skirts, tights (another well known fetish), with heavy make-up and lipstick. There is a sexual gratification coming from it. Going out in public dressed up that way, i’m pretty sure fulfills a fantasy of being admired and desired by other men, regardless of whether they pass or not. They never dress as the overwhelming majority of women do on most days, wearing just comfortable clothes (pants and sweaters have no place in the transvestite/gender-fluid wardrobe).
An entire system of thought built out of thin air, with myths like sex vs gender and new language like “cis” or “assigned at birth” has allowed this kind of kink to be protected and its perpetrators to be included in our daily lives. This is about sexual needs and the power to satisfy them, nothing more. It’s an “I’ll do whatever I want and there’s nothing you can say about it” type of mentality.

For those unaware there something called "boy mode" where transwomen (biological males) still present as male part of the time.

Some claim it's because they don't "pass" or for safety which may be the case.

It would also be a very easy way to be a modern transvestite.

For Transgender people the idea is to look like a transgender person

I’ve seen so many examples of this. Some take hormones to make themselves look ambiguous and dress a certain way. I think they like the discomfort and confusion they can cause people.

Also for the fifty year old men who just wear a wig and dress I wonder if they’re deluded to think they can pass or if they again just like inflicting an awkward situation on people.

And my understanding was that transvestites just like wearing womens clothes.

Another interesting point here is that for Transsexuals, and this is from several transsexuals youtube videos, (buck angel, blair white, Marcus Dib and possibly Brianna Wu) the aim of being a transsexual was always to pass. To look like the sex that you want to be.

For Transgender people the idea is to look like a transgender person.

It’s this business of getting off on making women uncomfortable that’s the real problem, isn’t it? The clothes don’t matter. But a lot of us have experienced men wanting to see us unnerved or distressed and clearly enjoying it. That makes me a bit sceptical about the ‘just want to pee’ line.

His aggression towards young women is a really important aspect of this that we don’t often make explicit. For lots of men who get off on this, it isn’t just that they get off on wearing the clothes - it’s directed at women, they want women to see them, they want women’s reactions and discomfort

Thank you, that's v helpful.

I began thinking along those lines bc I read of this very disturbing case that happened in early 2000s in China recently..As is normal in small villages there, a 13yo boy was left alone by his parents for a week. He was found dead when they got back, hanging, wearing a red dress. Apparently he was dressed as a popular effeminate male anime character.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=thechinaproject.com/2018/05/23/china-unsolved-the-boy-in-the-red-dress/&ved=2ahUKEwiq_6nv-66PAxU_TkEAHVmXGDEQFnoECB0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw31-Y4YDgKa0NzVK7sYwQby

It is thought that he had autogynephilic & autoerotic fetishises, which he hoped to play out when his parents were away & which led to the tragic consequences. 😢

Obvs this is an extreme case, thankfully, tho ofc the implications of fetishises go beyond simply being life threatening. But it's important to recognise that in the worst cases, fetishes can be potentially deadly

I loved Eddie Izzard in the 90s. Saw him live every tour and always admired his stance on 'equal clothing rights' but then he drank the transgender Kool aid and his pronoun and name change is just laughable.

This is a matter of language rather than transvestites no longer existing. They still do. The term transvestite literally translates as "across clothing" and is nothing to do with gender identity. We hear so much in the media about transgender that the excepted term for any man appearing to present themselves as female are thought of as being (and referred to as) transgender which is, in my opinion, doing a diservice to many men who still want to be men but like wearing women's clothes. It must be terribly confusing for a young man who discovers they enjoy wearing women's clothes. They must end up thinking that they must be transgender and perhaps this is why some end up detransitioning. I've known several women with transvestite husbands who have enjoyed very happy and loving marriages.

I agree - it really is misogynistic. And I hate the fact we are not allowed to say so, except on an anonymous forum.

WTF

A man can claim he’s a woman and get free electrolysis and a boob job.

It really is a man’s world.

Eddie Izzard shows that a man in a dress is a man in a dress just as well as any other men in dresses do.
We're just not supposed to state facts but he can tell us that he's a man in a dress or lie and say he's a woman and we have to accept it.
The trans label is a golden ticket to say what you are and to tell others to obey.
Much more exciting than the old labels so they've died down.

Same here. I used to live in London and remember once seeing Izzard walking down a street in Soho in heels and a mini-skirt (circa 2000), - striding like a catwalk model - and I thought he looked brilliant, and just really admired his confidence.

How different the world is now.

Yes, drag is a form of bawdy entertainment - e.g. Dame Edna Everage, - and Barry Humphries was famously a straight, non-transvestite male who did drag merely for comedy. He saw through the trans brigade facade, saw it for what it is - a fiction and a pretence.

Nevertheless, over 90% of so-called trans-identifying men don't have 'bottom' surgery - they have penises. And I've seen enough videos on X, of such men, wearing a laughable approximation of women's clothes, filming themselves in women's public toilets, masturbating. It is most definitely a fetish.

I think part of the blind spot around this is that we aren't supposed to consider anything sexually deviant now.

Where did the transvestites go? They simply walked out of the privacy of their own homes and into the sunny uplands of being stunning and brave. Such an historic journey.

“Transvestitism, also known as cross-dressing, is the practice of wearing clothes and adopting the behaviours traditionally associated with the opposite sex or gender. This behaviour can be for various reasons, including personal satisfaction, an expression of cross-sex identification, or sexual gratification. The terms were coined by Magnus Hirschfeld in 1910. While it involves adopting the appearance of a different gender, it is important to distinguish it from gender identity or sexual orientation, as most transvestites identify as the gender they were observed at birth.”
Drag is the very antithesis of ‘entertainment’. It’s akin to blackface.

This is one of many things that people don’t consider. I think as well if you bring it up with trans supporters they immediately just hear you calling all trans women deviants and get defensive.

If they were honest they’d have to acknowledge that there are men with fetishes that are connected to dressing as women.

It's fetish-laundering. Plain and simple. Bundle the middle-aged AGP males in with the teenage, self-loathing females and pretend it's all one, equally vulnerable superset. Farcical. And anyone with a brain and a moral spine can see it.

I'm really sad about Eddie Izzard. I used to think he was both hugely funny and dead sexy. Suzy who uses women's loos bleurgh.

It’s such an excellent question OP. Eddie Izzard is an example isn’t he? I’m sure he called himself a transvestite in the 90s. But now he’s Suzy who uses women’s loos.