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Where do people think the transvestites have gone?

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ItsCoolForCats · 27/08/2025 13:17

I remember a time when a distinction was made between transexuals and transvestites, and there was a recognition that the latter category often cross dressed for fetishistic reasons.

But now everyone is just trans. So regarding those who advocate for any man who says he is trans to access women's single sex spaces, where do they think all the transvestites have gone?

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sanluca · 15/09/2025 10:08

Crazytimes, you said you have facts but I haven't seen any. Could you share what you know about crossdressing and the reasons for it?

I found this after quickly googling:
Transvestism involves recurrent, intense sexual arousal from cross-dressing. Transvestic disorder is transvestism that causes significant distress or substantially interferes with daily functioning.

From the mental disorder handbook
https://www.msdmanuals.com/home/mental-health-disorders/paraphilias-and-paraphilic-disorders/transvestic-disorder

Please share your data.

To answer OPs question, transvestites are under the umbrella of trans and denying that is one of the reasons women are so pissed off.

Transvestic Disorder - Mental Health Disorders - MSD Manual Consumer Version

Transvestic Disorder - Learn about the causes, symptoms, diagnosis & treatment from the MSD Manuals - Medical Consumer Version.

https://www.msdmanuals.com/home/mental-health-disorders/paraphilias-and-paraphilic-disorders/transvestic-disorder

GreenFriedTomato · 15/09/2025 09:59

Janie143 · 27/08/2025 17:01

100% this My XH is one but he"s now getting free electrolysis, a book job and facial feminiastion surgery for free on.the NHS. Nice of the tax payer to fund him getting his rocks off.

This will never not piss me off. Actual women who struggle with their bodies and who would likely benefit from breast enhancement or electrolysis are told to fund it themselves. Yet men who want to be women get it on the NHS for free? This should be self funded, not funded by the tax payer.

ThatBlackCat · 15/09/2025 09:14

TheKeatingFive · 15/09/2025 08:10

Ah I see we've been visited by the Trancels. A particularly bigoted, ageist, misogynistic version.

Is Reddit down or something?

I think it's our mate Howse under another sock. The language and emjois are basically identical. He must have run out of Andrew Tate videos to jerk his little 4 incher to.

OldCrone · 15/09/2025 09:05

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I'm still waiting for you to explain why men crossdress if it's not a fetish.

I've asked several times and you still haven't answered.

I can draw my own conclusions for your lack of response.

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/09/2025 08:58

Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 08:49

Critical thinking doesn’t mean posting one example fits all.

That’s like posting an example of Rosemary west as an example of all women or on Simpson as an example of all black men.

thats not what critical thinking is dear. 😂🤡

bless ❤️

It was but ONE example. I made no claims for ALL. but I've linked to other examples earlier in the thread.

Not necessarily overtly abused, no...but children under parental pressure to perform gender stereotypes or preferences also susceptible, especially if they are nascently gay or lesbian ( See the son of 'Susie Green' whose husband had a real issue with a son who might potentially be gay).

See 'La Petite Fille' - a french documentary about a young boy, age 4, whose mother admits she was absolutely desperate for a girl ( but got him instead) and who spent hours dressing him in girls clothes and brushing his long hair......went on to believe he actually was a girl.

Children grow up in the atmosphere created by the parental psyche and are naturally very receptive to it. Gay clinicians at the Tavistock clinic said that some of the parents bringing their children for gender treatement were clearly homophobic, and that they were 'transing' gay children.

Children inhabit a fluid and imaginal world whilst their identify starts to solidify and take shape.

notnorman · 15/09/2025 08:57

PiggyPigalle · 27/08/2025 17:41

Isn't it strange, that since so many speech rules and laws have been imposed, the worse this country has become.

I have a theory that the word rules keep changing frequently, so as to trip up the innocent user, in order that the virtue signaller can jump in and correct them.

Doesn’t that happen in ‘1984’?

Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 08:50

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Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 08:49

Critical thinking doesn’t mean posting one example fits all.

That’s like posting an example of Rosemary west as an example of all women or on Simpson as an example of all black men.

thats not what critical thinking is dear. 😂🤡

bless ❤️

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/09/2025 08:47

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Have you ever encountered 'critical thinking'? It can come in very handy when composing posts that you want to be taken seriously.

There are plenty of transvestites ( autogynephiles) and prominent trans activists who have spoken very openly about the sexual motivations of their obsession.
Go back to the first page of this thread if you want to see some examples ( Grace Lavery, Andrea Long Chu amongst others). and prominent voices in Britain too......Debbie Hayton, Miranda Yardley.

Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 08:44

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Shortshriftandlethal · 15/09/2025 08:40

Take a step back and see how your posts are making you look utterly juvenile.

Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 08:40

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Shortshriftandlethal · 15/09/2025 08:38

Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 07:34

Nelly / I’m still waiting for your evidence that you know lots of transvestites ( how we don’t know and it’s almost certainly a lie) and for you to prove your statement. It was you who made the statement that most are for fetish reasons. You have provided no evidence to this.

Secondly I challenged that comment further by asking are boys who crossdress from an early age also for fetish reasons?

no response to that either.

I think Nelly we both know you can’t answer either dear

Grayson Perry, who started cross dressing age 4 ( abusive step-father, thought if he was a girl people might be kinder to him), clearly describes how it developed into an erotic drive as he neared towards puberty. Dressing in his mother's or sister's clothes gave him a " stiffy".

TheKeatingFive · 15/09/2025 08:37

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Well I'm glad you're amused. Stacks up that this kind of trolling would amuse you. You are a total trancel, in that you think it's acceptable to insult women, be ageist and misogynistic to them, take away their rights to single sex spaces by letting men into them.

Anywat, I've work to do, children to get to school. I'm sure you've all the time in the world in your parents basement though 🤪

Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 08:32

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TheKeatingFive · 15/09/2025 08:29

Oh and more insults. Whadda surprise.

Your questions weren't addressed to me.

Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 08:24

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TheKeatingFive · 15/09/2025 08:10

Ah I see we've been visited by the Trancels. A particularly bigoted, ageist, misogynistic version.

Is Reddit down or something?

Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 07:41

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Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 07:34

Nelly / I’m still waiting for your evidence that you know lots of transvestites ( how we don’t know and it’s almost certainly a lie) and for you to prove your statement. It was you who made the statement that most are for fetish reasons. You have provided no evidence to this.

Secondly I challenged that comment further by asking are boys who crossdress from an early age also for fetish reasons?

no response to that either.

I think Nelly we both know you can’t answer either dear

Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 07:27

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Namelessnelly · 15/09/2025 07:27

ThatBlackCat · 15/09/2025 07:02

Only joined today. Straight to the FWR. Reads exactly like Mr Howse under another name. Don't pretend you give a flying rats about trans people. They are simply a weapon you use to give your misogyny a veneer of respectability. These posts of yours on other threads prove your hateful Mens Rights/anti-feminist agenda. 'misandry' indeed, lol. With you it never was about 'trans rights', and you and we all know it. You just hate women.

*Crazytimes41 · Today 05:03

As predicted. A typical misandrist responses It seems any deviation from the rad fem closed mindsets is misogyny 😂.
You just proved my point*

and

*Crazytimes41 · Today 04:46

If you are coming on here expecting any positive feedback from the Mumsnet brigade you are very much mistaken. From the radical anti trans men hating brigade no matter what the issue it is always the man’s fault. If it’s lack of sex and the man complains - it’s the man’s fault. If its lack of sex and the woman complains it’s also the man’s fault.
The pattern is the same for all issues. This is also not a place where freedom of expression is tolerated because if you speak up against the tad gems or post a different point of view to their misandrist views your profile gets suspended. ( as Im sure mine will now too)
This is just a place for rad fems to come together and complain about men with no self realisation that some of them are the problem. It does make you laugh reading some of their comments though 😂*

and continually calling women 'dear' and the patronising male use of the clown emoji

*Crazytimes41 · Today 06:47

Push me? Agitated? Not at all dear. Amused by the granny transphobe brigade in all reality 😂. Predictable and amusing*

Just go back to salivating over your Andrew Tate videos, sir.

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Sore someone want to show him about how to tag posters? I wouldn’t want to miss any if his totally convincing arguments.

Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 07:26

Your attempted insults are highly amusing dear.

bless ❤️😂🤡

Namelessnelly · 15/09/2025 07:25

ThatBlackCat · 15/09/2025 07:24

A femphobe and misogynist bigoted incel being married to Mary Palmer and her 5 daughters doesn't count as a marriage.

true. Very true. Why do you think we’ve had so many posters suddenly coming on to spam posts and resurrect zombie threads. Do you think there’s something they prefer us not to talk about?