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All the eyerolls 🙄 they/them 'not Daddy!'

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lcakethereforeIam · 26/08/2025 11:39

What nurses have to put up with. His poor wife (although that word's not used*), his poor kids

I'm a non-binary parent but have had to accept being called 'Daddy' | Metro News https://share.google/CdGfmxVnizOeyxBbe

Admittedly, when we arrived at the delivery suite on Tuesday night I did tell the lead midwife that my pronouns are they/them

Of course he did.

The whole article is worth a read, simultaneously hilarious, jawdropping and troubling. I thought he could put it on stage at the next Fringe, it'd bring the house down. It's hard to believe it wasn't ghost written by Glinner as a pisstake.

*hopefully they're not married °so leaving this self obsessed bloke will be easier.

°how would that go anyway? 'I now pronoun you wife and....erm!'

I'm a non-binary parent but have had to accept being called 'Daddy'

I wish that society could be more inclusive towards trans and non-binary folks especially as it pertains to parenthood.

https://metro.co.uk/2025/08/21/im-a-non-binary-parent-accept-called-daddy-23938765/?_gl=1*1w8ogn9*_ga*SFNiMXdlR1ZMSElTQ05RU3ZxdUYxT0I2b3dRZHRUVmZNZE5vdGMzUVl4dkFjUE5zZmdiVzBxSGR1QUpXaFRNeQ..*_ga_MYFQ9GLWWV*MTc1NjIwMjkzMC40MS4xLjE3NTYyMDI5MzEuMC4wLjA.

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Fizbosshoes · 26/08/2025 17:11

Fml those poor children
What to label him (if dad/daddy is unsuitable or not special enough) really is the least of their worries Confused

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 26/08/2025 16:55

JanesLittleGirl · 26/08/2025 15:27

The poor mother: 3 babies to look after.

One small saving grace is that two of them will one day grow up.

Lins77 · 26/08/2025 16:47

MagicSexEssence · 26/08/2025 16:38

Baba can be daddy in Malay as well. Never heard it used for a woman, they have their own words. I suspect there isn't a language that has a gender neutral word for a parent (or, indeed, any important relative), this is just more of the TRA "noble savage" rubbish.

It would be interesting to know if there are any languages where auntie/uncle, niece/nephew, granny/grandad etc are ungendeded. Cousin is the closest I can think of in English. In Chinese and Malay you have specific words for older sister, younger brother etc and these are used for anyone, not just your blood relatives. It's actually quite hard to think of any gender neutral terms of affection. Mate, maybe? But that's quite masculine. Or love but I feel like that wouldn't be said by a man to another man so implies something about the sex of the participants to the exchange.

I suppose we have words like sibling and spouse which are ungendered - can't think of anything for aunt/uncle or niece/nephew though.

I use "my love" and "my darling" a lot (not generally for random strangers). Terms of endearment can be quite regional though.

Coffeeishot · 26/08/2025 16:47

lcakethereforeIam · 26/08/2025 11:53

No septum piercing. Sad times 😥

😀 I wish MN had kept the laugh emoji .

The poor sausage the trauma of being called Dad.

I followed a woman on Facebook who calls her husband "spouse" and same for her eyes fell out of my head and unfollowed!

IDontHateRainbows · 26/08/2025 16:43

I've always thought baba means wise elder of either sex. Baba Vanga, the eastern European psychic for example

AstonsGerbil · 26/08/2025 16:42

Shmoigel · 26/08/2025 13:17

Omg I'm loving that even over in Reddit land this special person is being roasted 😂

MagicSexEssence · 26/08/2025 16:38

Baba can be daddy in Malay as well. Never heard it used for a woman, they have their own words. I suspect there isn't a language that has a gender neutral word for a parent (or, indeed, any important relative), this is just more of the TRA "noble savage" rubbish.

It would be interesting to know if there are any languages where auntie/uncle, niece/nephew, granny/grandad etc are ungendeded. Cousin is the closest I can think of in English. In Chinese and Malay you have specific words for older sister, younger brother etc and these are used for anyone, not just your blood relatives. It's actually quite hard to think of any gender neutral terms of affection. Mate, maybe? But that's quite masculine. Or love but I feel like that wouldn't be said by a man to another man so implies something about the sex of the participants to the exchange.

IDontHateRainbows · 26/08/2025 16:35

I've just come back from a festival which whilst quite woke, had a refreshing number of men just dressed how they wanted, sometimes wearing skirts ( of the long hippie not micro mini variety), flowers in their hair, whatever. Yep, hippies basically. It was quite nice to see. I'm sure they didn't identify as anything other than big ole hippie.

Biscofffan · 26/08/2025 16:34

WhatterySquash · 26/08/2025 16:21

In the 80s, at my school we had loads of hippies, goths, punks, new romantics and everything in between. One 6th-former used to wear pink dungarees, along with his rats-tail hairdo and kicker boots. He was as straight as they come, shagged his way around most of the girls and was v popular, you see no one gave a shiny shite, and the thought of someone being "marginalised" for this "queerness" would have been ridiculous.

It's sad that as time goes on, there are more and more people like Tom who think they are original and special because they have no memory of actual gender non-conformity and actually being yourself, with your own style. Everything about being "NB" seems to involve following a set of prescribed styles and behaviours drawing from the most sexist, simplistic concepts of sex and gender, not because it's who you really are, but because you're desperate to be oppressed and get attention. It's just the new "I'm mad me!"

Exactly this. It was the same when I was at school in the 70s punks, glam rockers, mods etc etc and lots of us girls even had short hair! Shocker!

WhatterySquash · 26/08/2025 16:21

Biscofffan · 26/08/2025 16:06

'hot pink dungarees'
'queering myself'

Middle class first-world (sorry if this term is not correct) narcissism. Silly little man lives in bubble of wokeness. Makes me want to vomit. Pity those poor babies.

In the 80s, at my school we had loads of hippies, goths, punks, new romantics and everything in between. One 6th-former used to wear pink dungarees, along with his rats-tail hairdo and kicker boots. He was as straight as they come, shagged his way around most of the girls and was v popular, you see no one gave a shiny shite, and the thought of someone being "marginalised" for this "queerness" would have been ridiculous.

It's sad that as time goes on, there are more and more people like Tom who think they are original and special because they have no memory of actual gender non-conformity and actually being yourself, with your own style. Everything about being "NB" seems to involve following a set of prescribed styles and behaviours drawing from the most sexist, simplistic concepts of sex and gender, not because it's who you really are, but because you're desperate to be oppressed and get attention. It's just the new "I'm mad me!"

GCAcademic · 26/08/2025 16:11

Lins77 · 26/08/2025 16:07

Oh do fuck off Tom. In what way is he "LGBTQ+"? He's a man with a female partner. He's a white male. Wear your pink dungarees as much as you like, but stop pretending to be terribly discriminated against when people experience real discrimination and oppression in the world.

We should feel sorry for white middle class, heterosexual men. They have to invent their oppression while other groups get it handed to them on a plate.

Lins77 · 26/08/2025 16:07

Babyboomtastic · 26/08/2025 15:59

😂

https://www.thepinknews.com/2022/11/24/cop27-egypt-lgbtq/

Highlights include:

"I’m non-binary and agender and I am visibly queer in most situations"

"During the meal, I was misgendered a number of times, which was good because it meant I was passing as cis, but still made me uncomfortable because it was proof that I wasn’t living authentically.

As soon as I was halfway through the summit, I was already fantasising about re-queering myself. I have booked an appointment to get my ears re-pierced and I will be dying my hair and getting my nails painted. On my first day back in Brighton I felt massive relief when I could put on my hot pink dungarees and go out and have no one bat an eyelid because my queer self is accepted as part of normal life here."

😂😂😂😂

'still passing as cis'
You're a bald bloke mate!!

Oh do fuck off Tom. In what way is he "LGBTQ+"? He's a man with a female partner. He's a white male. Wear your pink dungarees as much as you like, but stop pretending to be terribly discriminated against when people experience real discrimination and oppression in the world.

NotAtMyAge · 26/08/2025 16:07

JanesLittleGirl · 26/08/2025 15:27

The poor mother: 3 babies to look after.

That is almost word for word the comment I left under the article itself. My eyes couldn't roll hard enough.

Biscofffan · 26/08/2025 16:06

Babyboomtastic · 26/08/2025 15:59

😂

https://www.thepinknews.com/2022/11/24/cop27-egypt-lgbtq/

Highlights include:

"I’m non-binary and agender and I am visibly queer in most situations"

"During the meal, I was misgendered a number of times, which was good because it meant I was passing as cis, but still made me uncomfortable because it was proof that I wasn’t living authentically.

As soon as I was halfway through the summit, I was already fantasising about re-queering myself. I have booked an appointment to get my ears re-pierced and I will be dying my hair and getting my nails painted. On my first day back in Brighton I felt massive relief when I could put on my hot pink dungarees and go out and have no one bat an eyelid because my queer self is accepted as part of normal life here."

😂😂😂😂

'still passing as cis'
You're a bald bloke mate!!

'hot pink dungarees'
'queering myself'

Middle class first-world (sorry if this term is not correct) narcissism. Silly little man lives in bubble of wokeness. Makes me want to vomit. Pity those poor babies.

ethelredonagoodday · 26/08/2025 16:03

Coatsoff42 · 26/08/2025 12:17

I enjoyed reading this story so much. It is wild how self centred this man is. Most expectant fathers are worried childbirth will be a bloodbath and the mother/baby might suffer or die, worst case scenario stuff, while they stand there like a helpless spare part.

But not this delight! He’s the main character in this scenario. His identity is his first thought.
I imagine this story following him around for years and years as documented evidence of what a massive self-centred knob he is.

Absolutely agree with this. The levels of self-absorption are staggering.

Babyboomtastic · 26/08/2025 15:59

😂

https://www.thepinknews.com/2022/11/24/cop27-egypt-lgbtq/

Highlights include:

"I’m non-binary and agender and I am visibly queer in most situations"

"During the meal, I was misgendered a number of times, which was good because it meant I was passing as cis, but still made me uncomfortable because it was proof that I wasn’t living authentically.

As soon as I was halfway through the summit, I was already fantasising about re-queering myself. I have booked an appointment to get my ears re-pierced and I will be dying my hair and getting my nails painted. On my first day back in Brighton I felt massive relief when I could put on my hot pink dungarees and go out and have no one bat an eyelid because my queer self is accepted as part of normal life here."

😂😂😂😂

'still passing as cis'
You're a bald bloke mate!!

Going to COP27 as a queer person in anti-LGBTQ+ Egypt isn't easy

Queer journalist Tom Pashby covered the COP27 climate summit from Egypt, where LGBTQ+ people are persecuted, criminalised and abused.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2022/11/24/cop27-egypt-lgbtq/

Lins77 · 26/08/2025 15:58

lcakethereforeIam · 26/08/2025 15:51

And the male patterned baldness.

Really did no-one at the Metro or outside Mx Pashby's little bubble think to say to him, 'Tom, do you really want to submit this for publication? You're going to come across as a massive, narcissistic bell-end'.

Nah - they probably thought "how exciting, a non-binary parent, how marvellous to showcase this marginalised voice!". 🙄

lcakethereforeIam · 26/08/2025 15:51

Lins77 · 26/08/2025 15:17

The facial hair's a bit masculine-gendered.

Try harder, Tom.

And the male patterned baldness.

Really did no-one at the Metro or outside Mx Pashby's little bubble think to say to him, 'Tom, do you really want to submit this for publication? You're going to come across as a massive, narcissistic bell-end'.

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NotAtMyAge · 26/08/2025 15:40

I spotted this on X soon after it was published and commented on it, along with quite a lot of other people. Interestingly the commenters weren't nasty or aggressive, but they were, as far as I could see, totally unimpressed and made that very clear. Within 2 days the Metro had closed comments and hidden or delated the ones that had been made. When will they learn people have simply had enough of unmitigated narcissism?

murasaki · 26/08/2025 15:34

It takes a world beating amount of solipsism to prioritise your pronouns over the well being of your partner and your tiny babies.

He is not fit to be a parent.

JanesLittleGirl · 26/08/2025 15:27

The poor mother: 3 babies to look after.

Lins77 · 26/08/2025 15:27

‘Daddy’s right here for you, okay?,’ said the neonatal medic to my newborn identical twins as they wheeled them to the special care unit.
This was the first time someone had referred to me by this name, but as well as finding it sweet and overwhelming in a good way, I also found it quite jarring.

It's so sad that this beautiful moment, being called "Daddy" for the first time - albeit in worrying circumstances - has been marred for him by a completely invented problem.

BeanQuisine · 26/08/2025 15:21

Pathetic and infantile attention seeking. It's amazing how lacking in self-awareness these clowns really are.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 26/08/2025 15:20

Aria999 · 26/08/2025 14:23

How on earth are the poor medical team supposed to know what alternative to 'Daddy' to call him if he can't even figure it out himself...?

Maybe a combination of Mummy and Daddy = Dummy. Which suits him quite nicely.

Lins77 · 26/08/2025 15:17

Babyboomtastic · 26/08/2025 15:07

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/18562588.tom-pashby-running-green-partys-deputy-leader-job/

Yep, vegan 😂
Not that I have an issue with vegans, but it's a tad predictable for this chap.

The facial hair's a bit masculine-gendered.

Try harder, Tom.