What would you actually do if you saw a transperson in the wrong toilet/changing room for their sex? Thread 2

Whether I confront the man directly depends on the circumstances and whether it's safe to do so but I will be making a complaint to the toilet/changing room service provider every time it happens.

I’m mid fifties and only 5ft1.
I wouldn’t say anything directly but would feel at the least uncomfortable.
If my DD was in there I would hang around (and glare) until she came out with me.
If I could I’d speak to staff - otherwise I’d be chuntering to whoever I was with. I’m not directly confrontational.

I’d report to staff because I’m a wimp. I’d also be terrified that it was just a fug ugly woman and I’d got it wrong.

Most people support the Supreme Court judgement.

Most people think that transwomen should use unisex or men's services.

'...unisex toilets were the most popular response as a solution for transgender people. [41%]'

https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/poll-shows-public-support-for-the-supreme-court-decision/

I already have and I think it's quite a different thing. A man in a women's (or girls') changing room is a pervert afaic and I would find security to deal with it.

Not only that, but that was from a few years ago.

On porn sites at the time, this was a rapidly expanding category. I can only assume that there are now huge numbers of these videos.

But ... apparently, it will never happen. And if it does, there are many posters for who 'it is alright Jack. Doesn't matter to me.'

I would want them to feel as uncomfortable as possible about being in a place they know damn well they're not allowed to be.

They don't give a shit about women feeling uncomfortable, do they?

Being in a space where they know they are making women feel uncomfortable is inappropriate behaviour, decent men don't do that, why is it ok if they throw on a dress?

I noticed one last month, it wasn't until I was washing my hands and could see a very clearly male face in the mirror just along from mine.
I did nothing because it was in a pub, (Spoons), with young staff and it was just before a gig round the corner that I knew would have a very alphabetty crowd, (Mika, in Millennium Square, Leeds), I knew it would be me that would be made to feel I was in the wrong.
I didn’t feel unsafe, it was v busy, but I did feel uncomfortable, I did notice and I bloody well did mind.
I hung back so he wasn't behind me on the stairs.

Yeah, that sounds fair enough tbh.

I wonder too. And the thing is, predatory men with bad intentions are relying on us to ignore that gut instinct.

Ughh that's so grim.

I have no idea why women who say they have 'no problem' turn a blind eye to the fetish part of trans identity.

Is it female socialisation to just let men behave how they wish?

I’d have a problem although until faced with the situation I’m not sure how I’d react. Friend joined a local sports club and the second time she went with her daughter two males were getting changed in the female changing room. She complained but got nowhere. Obviously it doesn’t matter if every female in the club agreed this was fine, if one woman says it’s affected her, she can claim discrimination. Not sure where she’s at with the process but I hope that its resolved with the SC ruling.

Good for you, but that is not the point. A man should not be in a female only facility, toilet or space.

But if they’re only doing what toilets are designed for, why can’t they do it in the men’s?

But what? If TWAW then they should be allowed to play in women’s sports. If not why not? If TWANW, then they should not be in women’s single sex spaces. You can’t have both. Either they are women or they are not

Many, many women are like this.

Women who over-rule their uncomfortable gut instinct that something is not right in order to be polite. Be nice. Not make a fuss.

I wonder if Sarah Everard felt uncomfortable about Wayne Couzens as she got into his car.

Just to point out, there is no an equivalent compilation of female people masturbating in female single sex spaces.

Found parts of that compilation from Nig Heke

This is 'not safe for work' although, I believe much of it has been blurred out.

https://archive.md/83jAx

Just posting this on here. If I remember, at least another male twitter profile joined in and they all started mocking female toilet habits.

But even here, these are male people discussing female toilet habits which they admit to listening to female people pee.

Of course, no harm here some would say. No one was physically attacked at all, after all.

Duplicated.

We really don't want the number of urinals decreasing - they are efficient (and use less water in flushing). More cubicles would sometimes be helpful in the Gents. Personally, I'm not keen on women coming into the Gents; though it doesn't frighten me it is slightly disturbing. For some young men (including me a few decades ago) it may be very disturbing. My view is that people should use the toilets appropriate to their sex; gender is irrelevant in this context; and I am happy for there to be "third spaces" for anyone to use.

Edited to add: as someone with IBS, I really really don't want to have to wait for a transman to finish using a cubicle in the Gents for a pee. The number of cubicles is usually very limited - often just one, occasionally two, except in very high usage facilities such as motorway services.