Duolingo is trying to queer us again.

Afraid not.

Perhaps if you actually listened to trans and non-binary people, to the very many gay and lesbian people who either also identify as queer or are comfortable sitting within the queer umbrella, you may get things wrong a bit less.

Afraid not.

Perhaps if you actually listened to trans and non-binary people, to the very many gay and lesbian people who either also identify as queer or are comfortable sitting within the queer umbrella, you may get things wrong a bit less.

Here you are literally admitting that it means spicy straight.

The idea of gay and straight non binary people is fucking hilarious.

So you believe you're neither male nor female but you also know you are attracted to people of the same/the opposite sex to yourself.

Righty-oh.

This is not an innocent stumbling this is a language app listed company including a child user in an adults sex life.

If a person was to open that type of conversation with a child via the internet it would be recognised as grooming behaviour and this for profit company is allowing that interaction to take place on its platform.

Ok, I'll try to follow your logic but I will need to unpack it a bit so please bear with me.

What do you mean by a non-binary heterosexual person? Do you mean they are only attracted to other non-binary people?

What is the definition of "straight" and how does that differ from "heterosexual"? The two were always synonymous when I was growing up.

Indeed, what in your understanding is the difference between "straight" and "queer", since you think they are mutally exclusive terms?

If a straight monogamous person who enjoys BDSM sees themself as queer, are they wrong?

(I will re-iterate my inital point that you do seem to be using a different definition for queer than I thought was common usage these days.)

I’m using straight to specifically refer to non-queer people, not just heterosexual. Someone might be non-binary and heterosexual and identify as queer for example.

Someone yes BDSM is not something that only queer people do.

As the thread has gone on though the claim that any unacceptable sexualising of children is ‘queering’ - even if it’s done by AI, or regardless of motive - is wrong and it is used with a very specific and hateful intent.

The post you quote literally gives an example of someone who might be heterosexual and queer.

I use 'straight' to refer to someone who is not queer.

Did someone dare you to wedge as many logical (and actual) fallacies into one sentence?

It now turns out that the context of this is some sort of (I'd say) ill judged innuendo based joke about a parent who claims to be a lion tamer, and a child taking that explanation at face value.

Of course that sort of comedic trope - child stumbling innocently across some aspect of their parents sex life to the mortification of the parent - is a pretty age old and hackneyed feature of e.g. movies aimed at both adults and children. You can like it or not. I don't.

But unless you think a large number of family movies over the last number of decades are all about 'queering', the OP's claim remains absolute nonsense, and a desperate effort to get the concept of queerness mashed together with nefarious intentions towards child sexualisation.

Edited to add - in case wondering about those fallacies. Hundreds/thousands of lesbians marched in London Pride. I guarantee you not one of them was asked for their openness to trans women as sexual partners in order to do so. There is also no new focus on fetishism in Pride - kink/fetish has been a very small part of pride for a long time and this year was no different.

No it doesn't.

I tend to agree that as content for adults, it is no differernt than hundreds of perfectly fine films, televisions and books, using that exact same joke set up.

Where Duolingo have gone wrong I think is because a lot of their users are underage, and schools etc will recommend it for kids. And it's a bit weird as a joke in a language learning program. For the same reason it would have been a weird joke to see in your french textbook at age 15.

I expect it is because the AI doesn't understand that kind of social nuance.

No it doesn't.

No it doesn't.

Did someone dare you to wedge as many logical (and actual) fallacies into one sentence?

It now turns out that the context of this is some sort of (I'd say) ill judged innuendo based joke about a parent who claims to be a lion tamer, and a child taking that explanation at face value.

Of course that sort of comedic trope - child stumbling innocently across some aspect of their parents sex life to the mortification of the parent - is a pretty age old and hackneyed feature of e.g. movies aimed at both adults and children. You can like it or not. I don't.

But unless you think a large number of family movies over the last number of decades are all about 'queering', the OP's claim remains absolute nonsense, and a desperate effort to get the concept of queerness mashed together with nefarious intentions towards child sexualisation.

Edited to add - in case wondering about those fallacies. Hundreds/thousands of lesbians marched in London Pride. I guarantee you not one of them was asked for their openness to trans women as sexual partners in order to do so. There is also no new focus on fetishism in Pride - kink/fetish has been a very small part of pride for a long time and this year was no different.

Queer means spicy straight.

Umm you know that (some) straight folk also have leather and BDSM kinks?

What specifically is queer about this?

I think it means challenging/breaking boundaries around sex (in the sense of sexual fantasies or activity) now, whether or not that was its original intention. That’s why Pride now seems to be about transgenderism and sex fetishes, and excludes lesbians who aren’t prepared to become bisexual.

The post you quote literally gives an example of someone who might be heterosexual and queer.

I use 'straight' to refer to someone who is not queer.

What is a non-queer person?

I only know "straight" as heterosexual, seems like you think it means something else - can you elaborate?

If a straight monogamous person who enjoys BDSM sees themself as queer, are they wrong?

Yes this, Im surprised someone has to ask this. Its not about gay or straight anymore, its about being your true self. Whatever that is.

It’s not though. The concept of queering is inherently related to challenging norms around sexuality and gender.

Claiming that any example of inappropriate sexualisation of children is ‘queering’ is both wrong and dangerous.