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What about the adults who have explained that there WAS a point in adulthood when they became ‘trans’? Some of them after watching ‘sissy’ porn about forced feminisation. What about the men who suddenly become ‘trans’ after they’d been arrested for a crime?

You seem to be making very broad and rather inaccurate claims about a very diverse population.

You’re right. But the latter is not an accurate depiction of trans identities so…

The fact that you don’t understand what a trans identity is doesn’t mean trans kids don’t exist.

Trans adults exist. And lots of them explain that there was not some point in adulthood when they ‘became’ trans. None of your lack of understanding means that these kids simply don’t exist.

Almost like I’m not at the beck and call of a random transphobic message board…

Why would I tell you when lots of trans people themselves have done so and you lot just ignore them?

If you want to know how trans kids know they are trans, maybe ask the many trans adults who say they knew they were trans (even if they didn’t have the word for it) when they were children.

The difference is that trans people exist. This is an objective fact.

Every trans adult was once a child. That is an objective fact.

And a great many trans adults describe their experiences as children - both the experience of gender dysphoria and the identity that accompanied it.

Trans kids exist.

You can hold whatever view you want about what support or treatment should be offered to them. None of that wipes out their existence.

Well yes, of course. The bigots playbook never discounts the testimony of a minority when it can be used against them. They just ignore it the rest of the time.

Quite.

But I honestly don't understand what it means anymore. For me it was shorthand for transexual. So old school 'sex change' surgery for a few people (almost always men) with such severe fixation/mental issues that physically altering their bodies was thought of as a somewhat acceptable measure.

Now, it would appear that anyone and anything are trans. Starting with myself according to some. And I really really don't think I am. But it's still not totally clear to me.

My working hypothesis is 'not Barbie, not GI Joe'. So 99.9% of the population then?

We don't ignore trans people when they explain about why they are trans.

Take Andrea Long Chu for example, who said that sissy porn made him trans.

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We all know that for many of these men, it's a sexual fetish. What we don't understand is why children would be saying they're trans.

I'm sure you're not going to suggest that, like Andrea Long Chu, all these children have been watching too much sissy porn. (I hope you're not, anyway.)

So over to you. What makes a child trans?

Looks like the answer is 'trans' means 'trans'.

Why would I tell you when lots of trans people themselves have done so and you lot just ignore them?

If you want to know how trans kids know they are trans, maybe ask the many trans adults who say they knew they were trans (even if they didn’t have the word for it) when they were children.

We should go back to basics.

What does 'trans' mean?

Why would I tell you when lots of trans people themselves have done so and you lot just ignore them?

If you want to know how trans kids know they are trans, maybe ask the many trans adults who say they knew they were trans (even if they didn’t have the word for it) when they were children.

And whilst you tell us how a child knows they are trans, maybe you explain why that is any different to a child knowing they are a dinosaur or a digger - because children might “know” they are something they can’t possibly be, but it is not reality.

Being attracted to a particular sex is not the same as disliking or rejecting the stereotypes associated with your sex.

HTH.

Being trans is not a sexual orientation. You are (probably deliberately, and in bad faith) conflating two separate things, so your question makes no sense

Yes. A child with a nascent or developing same sex attraction will not be (should not be, legally or morally) acting on that. So there will be no real material impact of a child identifying as LGB.

A child identifying as T, however, is instantly a target for people like those running 'Anne health'.

Drugs that are banned in the UK for children, surgery that is also not approved for children, the slowing or halting of development, unknown health risks - these are the risks faced by and child who is 'gender questioning'. Because people make money out of selling them to vulnerable children.

The NHS uses 'gender questioning', and the Cass Report explicitly did not use the term 'trans child'.

Leaving aside how soon children experience sexual attraction, you should be able to see that you aren’t comparing similar things.

A human can feel attraction to another human being of either sex.

A human cannot change sex.

I can explain what sexual attraction is

You will not be able to objectively explain what gender identity is in a way that does not rely on sexist tropes (I am confident about this because nobody has yet done so).

Perhaps most importantly, people don’t openly suggest that a gay child needs drugs or surgery.

But answer came there none

I'm not convinced that encouraging a child to label themselves is a good idea in general.
However an older child will begin to realise that they might be gay if they find themselves consistently attracted to members of the same sex.
How does a child 'know they are trans'? Maybe you can tell us

I'm not convinced that encouraging a child to label themselves is a good idea in general.
However an older child will begin to realise that they might be gay if they find themselves consistently attracted to members of the same sex.
How does a child 'know they are trans'? Maybe you can tell us