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Who‘s coming to FiLIA?

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lanadelgrey · 23/08/2025 10:33

I‘m starting to get excited.
Are there plans for a MN meetup?

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PronounssheRa · 13/10/2025 12:03

Gullye · 13/10/2025 11:58

Too little and too late.

And she is still banging on about how she trusts Hamas.

Filia will need to address this at some point, specifically why they platformed people who are vocally supportive of a proscribed terrorist organisation.

Im all for difference of opinion, but this goes way beyond that.

Gullye · 13/10/2025 11:58

inkognitha · 13/10/2025 11:55

Too little and too late.

inkognitha · 13/10/2025 11:55

Apologies from Sathi

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Shinyredbicycle · 13/10/2025 11:33

With you Hermiaxx!

TinselAngel · 13/10/2025 11:31

Well if Julia is joining me in the FILIA “trouble maker” club, I couldn’t be happier with the company.

Hermiaxx · 13/10/2025 11:22

@ShinyredbicycleI stand with the thousands of women who attended FiLiA in sisterhood and solidarity to support victims and discuss how to achieve a better world for women and girls. Shame on all detractors!

Shinyredbicycle · 13/10/2025 11:19

Though, yes, if the shoe fits.
Attending a feminist conference to provoke, be outraged and set up a counter protest outside, call it bad acting if you will.

Shinyredbicycle · 13/10/2025 11:17

I didn't. I named her separately. To me, from what I observed, she appeared delighted to find something to be outraged about do early on which I believe runs counter to sisterhood and solidarity.

You're very welcome to a different opinion. This was just what I saw

Gullye · 13/10/2025 11:17

TinselAngel · 13/10/2025 11:07

Calling Julia Long a “bad actor” is outrageous.

Agree, an awful slur on a fantastic feminist.

You should be ashamed of yourself @Shinyredbicycle

TinselAngel · 13/10/2025 11:07

Shinyredbicycle · 13/10/2025 11:02

Give the tiny organising team at Filia a bit of time to make a robust statement. There was so much going on, not just what was in the building, but in the build up, what was happening on social media and other forums and the inevitable fallout.

Women who you'd hope would want to build not destroy like Julia Long, who was clearly delighted to find something to feel outraged about so early on and who took the cue to create some divisive action, and Jean Hatchet, whose modus operandus seems to be to provoke, then lie and paint herself as a victim on social media didn't help.

A few bad actors. Thousands of women there in sisterhood and solidarity. Choose who you want to lift up.

Calling Julia Long a “bad actor” is outrageous.

Shinyredbicycle · 13/10/2025 11:02

Give the tiny organising team at Filia a bit of time to make a robust statement. There was so much going on, not just what was in the building, but in the build up, what was happening on social media and other forums and the inevitable fallout.

Women who you'd hope would want to build not destroy like Julia Long, who was clearly delighted to find something to feel outraged about so early on and who took the cue to create some divisive action, and Jean Hatchet, whose modus operandus seems to be to provoke, then lie and paint herself as a victim on social media didn't help.

A few bad actors. Thousands of women there in sisterhood and solidarity. Choose who you want to lift up.

ArcheryAnnie · 13/10/2025 10:49

I agree entirely, @Pri0n1, about those two awful women (the Norwegian woman and her friend) who attended the meeting just to call the rest of the room "colonisers". Utterly disgraceful, and entirely appropriate that they were marched out of the room by security. They can have whatever opinions they like, however much I may disagree with them, but that was entirely the wrong place to bring them to - insensitive and cruel.

Gullye · 13/10/2025 10:45

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/10/2025 10:29

What I’m confused about is why Aja and Jean Hatchet were thrown out and not JCJ and Lucy Masoud?

It's simple, Jean & Aja don't support muslim rapists.

PriOn1 · 13/10/2025 10:38

ArcheryAnnie · 13/10/2025 10:28

So if you were there, @Pri0n1, you knew it wasn't a "small room", as you claimed? Why are you trying to paint everything in the worst possible light? What's your motive here?

And it wasn't an off-the-record meeting. It was being filmed, which was announced at the meeting near the beginning.

I’m angry. I spent close to a thousand pounds and some of my precious annual leave to spend time with other women and instead of an uplifting experience, I spoke to women who’d had to leave, who’d been spat on, and I witnessed shocking anti-Semitism in a space where all women should have felt supported.

I understand women have different opinions on this and that FiLiA had no control over what happened in the opening ceremony or of the awful Norwegian woman who chose to attend simply to bully those women again, but a robust statement condemning those actions would have (for me) sorted this all out.

PriOn1 · 13/10/2025 10:33

IamSarah · 13/10/2025 07:03

Unfortunately I think this would be like asking speakers to avoid gender ideology because it sparks division and causes fights. Isreal Gaza is very topical, many women and girls have been affected and continue to be. Feminists will inevitably have strong feelings. FiLiA should be a place where those views can be aired and debated respectfully.

What actually happened couldn’t have been foreseen and was swiftly dealt with by organisers.

In what way was it dealt with? The speaker left the stage immediately afterwards as she had finished and the woman compeering ignored it. They made no public statement condemning her actions, but gave a weak response, in which they failed to name the problem.

I’m glad they found a space for those women who wanted to meet. It would have been better to have two minutes silence in the main auditorium or some kind of statement in the closing session as that would have been a genuine public action supporting those women.

It’s good that there are women here who managed to enjoy it. Unfortunately I and many others were left with a bad taste in our mouths with how it was dealt with, or rather wasn’t.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/10/2025 10:29

IamSarah · 13/10/2025 07:03

Unfortunately I think this would be like asking speakers to avoid gender ideology because it sparks division and causes fights. Isreal Gaza is very topical, many women and girls have been affected and continue to be. Feminists will inevitably have strong feelings. FiLiA should be a place where those views can be aired and debated respectfully.

What actually happened couldn’t have been foreseen and was swiftly dealt with by organisers.

What I’m confused about is why Aja and Jean Hatchet were thrown out and not JCJ and Lucy Masoud?

Aquascooter · 13/10/2025 10:28

I’ve just been catching up on the awful antisemitism that FiLiA subjected Jewish attendees to at the event.

My heart goes out to all the Jewish women who had to leave, and to those watching on in horror who couldn’t attend.

ArcheryAnnie · 13/10/2025 10:28

So if you were there, @Pri0n1, you knew it wasn't a "small room", as you claimed? Why are you trying to paint everything in the worst possible light? What's your motive here?

And it wasn't an off-the-record meeting. It was being filmed, which was announced at the meeting near the beginning.

PriOn1 · 13/10/2025 10:19

ArcheryAnnie · 13/10/2025 10:05

If you really had been there during the meeting on Sunday lunchtime (not morning) to bring together Jewish women and their allies, you'd have heard a FiLiA comms woman - clearly there on her own account - say that the woman who chanted from stage at the opening rally had specifically been asked not to do that, and did it anyway, and that the rest of the FiLiA team were really angry and upset with her for (as she put it) "taking a shit" on all their work bringing women together.

You say this meeting was in a "small room" as a "sop" - this is the third biggest room in the centre which takes up to 400 people. If you've ever worked in events (which for much of my life has been my day job) you will understand that finding and allocating a room of this size on the fly in the middle of a conference is quite a task. I'm very glad they did it though - the original call had been for us to do a 2-min silence in the auditorium - which i tuned up for, and then found we'd been moved - but this meant we could have a proper meeting with a lot of women speaking.

Be angry all you like, you won't be alone (as the comms person very clearly said), but it's important to be accurate about what happened.

“you'd have heard a FiLiA comms woman - clearly there on her own account - say that the woman who chanted from stage at the opening rally had specifically been asked not to do that, and did it anyway, and that the rest of the FiLiA team were really angry and upset with her for (as she put it) "taking a shit" on all their work bringing women together.”

I did hear that, because I was at the meeting.

Saying it, off-record and only to the women who went to that meeting, but not confirming to the wider audience that they condemned the chanting was cowardly and it made me doubt her sincerity.

PriOn1 · 13/10/2025 10:13

lanadelgrey · 12/10/2025 23:06

As I Am Sarah said, there were many sides to the conference. A lot of comments from people who weren’t o the room where it happened.
There is no ‘management’. I attended the lunchtime meeting. Views were robustly aired, no one was thrown out of that meeting.
The close of the conference was truncated but it included a live link with three women from Kokoma. That was important.
Ok women did not solve all the problems on the world and every woman’s experience of the conference was different because they went to different sessions. Women are not perfect, FiLiA is not perfect according to anyone‘s lights but it provides a space and an energy that no other women‘s organisation does. Get involved, change or influence by being in the room and doing the work.
And if you were there, I was a Sarah too.

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Which lunchtime meeting did you attend? If it was the one in support of Jewish women, a young Norwegian woman was thrown out.

No filming was suddenly announced on the last day, so presumably there’s no video of her abuse, but it occurred.

ArcheryAnnie · 13/10/2025 10:05

PriOn1 · 12/10/2025 21:09

I was there, including the opening ceremony.

The excitement and feeling of solidarity was building through all the local women, talking about women’s history and Brighton suffragettes. It felt positive and wonderful. My first FiLiA.

Then the Hamas sympathizer started chanting, “Free, free Palestine.” Some women in the audience stood up and joined in, a few women walked out and the rest of us sat there in stunned silence.

It took all the joy out of the occasion and divided the room. The compere could easily have apologized and said that the chanting wasn’t appropriate or that FiLiA didn’t condone it, but there was nothing said. The poor woman who came on to speak last had to talk to a room where everything had fallen flat.

This morning, perhaps as a sop to the FiLiA consciences, a small room was allocated for a meeting of those who wanted to support the Jewish women. Even there, some anti-Semitic women gatecrashed and when one was given the microphone, started on an anti-Israel rant. She was ejected, but it was honestly shocking to do that on the one small session given to the support of Jewish women, some of whom had family members who were directly affected on October 7th. I know they asked FiLiA to say something at the closing ceremony. I didn’t expect FiLiA to say what that group of women hoped they would say, but I did hope they’d at least give some kind of indication that they sympathised.

I waited to see if any apology or even recognition was forthcoming from FiLiA to say that the flag waving and chanting wasn’t appropriate. There was nothing.

The closing ceremony was shortened and fairly muted. After we’d all left, FiLiA sent out an email and I opened it, still hoping for some comment, but it was an email saying there had been two women banned for their actions at the disco. Those women were Jean Hatchet and Aja.

So there has been zero acknowledgment from the management that some women came to FiLiA with the deliberate intention of expressing their anti-Semitism and celebrating terrorists.

There were some brilliant sessions, particularly the Supreme Court session this morning, but the attitude of the FiLiA management in not condemning those who came to cause trouble and hurt genuinely put a dampener on the whole event and I won’t be going again, which is honestly really sad. It should have been amazing, but I can’t give my money to this organisation again.

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If you really had been there during the meeting on Sunday lunchtime (not morning) to bring together Jewish women and their allies, you'd have heard a FiLiA comms woman - clearly there on her own account - say that the woman who chanted from stage at the opening rally had specifically been asked not to do that, and did it anyway, and that the rest of the FiLiA team were really angry and upset with her for (as she put it) "taking a shit" on all their work bringing women together.

You say this meeting was in a "small room" as a "sop" - this is the third biggest room in the centre which takes up to 400 people. If you've ever worked in events (which for much of my life has been my day job) you will understand that finding and allocating a room of this size on the fly in the middle of a conference is quite a task. I'm very glad they did it though - the original call had been for us to do a 2-min silence in the auditorium - which i tuned up for, and then found we'd been moved - but this meant we could have a proper meeting with a lot of women speaking.

Be angry all you like, you won't be alone (as the comms person very clearly said), but it's important to be accurate about what happened.

TinselAngel · 13/10/2025 08:29

Dopeydoraz · 13/10/2025 06:48

I think that is repulsive behaviour. Disagree all you want. Run your own conference. Please don’t report organisations to the charity commission because you disagree on politics. The world needs filia

Oh you’re back on the thread. Care to clarify in what way I’m a “trouble maker”?

Shinyredbicycle · 13/10/2025 08:19

I was at Filia from first thing Friday morning to Sunday afternoon. I agree with everything that Hermiaxx, I AM SARAH's and ItsAllGoingToBeFine say. Two and a half thousand women coming together, hundreds of speakers, stalls all organised and coordinated by volunteers. So much joy, so my laughter, so much solidarity. It was a remarkable event.

Some individuals' behaviour upset others. Some individuals' behaviour was completely out of order. Some individuals came to provoke, and others chose to react to this. I'm not convinced that the individuals posting video footage on social media sought or obtained the consent of those in the footage - it's an assumption on my part, but I believe that these individuals did this to stoke their own egos and airbrush out their own part in events.

All the demands that Filia make an immediate statement are egotistical and abusurd. These women were in the middle of organising a huge conference - why can't they be permitted a few days or weeks to think about what happened, process it and issue measured, thoughtful words rather than be pushed into a corner to try to appease women who think it's all about them?

Thank you, Filia. Thank to the women who came in good faith with sisterly intentions and who want to build rather than destroy.

PronounssheRa · 13/10/2025 07:58

UrsulasHerbBag · 12/10/2025 23:05

They managed to do due diligence when they refused to let Virago have a place to display their art because they didn’t like the tiny representation of KJK.

In which case Filia really dont have any excuse.