Bluesky suspending over JKR hate

Always with the "but"....

I believe that some people believe in gender and other beliefs even though I know it's completely made up. Like unicorns.
If only more people thought they were unicorns they could run around being happy instead of threatening people.
Of course if men want to wear dresses but use males spaces that's great too.
Edited to add 'some'

And in fact I still messed up the links...

Given what Gretchen Felker-Martin wrote about JKR in his "novel" about JKR (archive.ph/tNumK) and has said <a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230219145419/nypost.com/2023/02/18/gretchen-felker-martin-tweets-that-she-wants-to-slit-j-k-rowlings-throat/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">elsewhere too, I am surprised they let him on Bluesky in the first place.

As for wishing ill, well I am sure we'd be guilty of that for someone, but I doubt we'd publish it online, and in any case what was said about JKR is so unhinged and detached from reality that it'd be comical were TRAs not so inclined to violence against all women for saying 'No'.

Edited as I kept messing up the links.

This is an instructive argument. Someone is Jewish, very devout (or pick another religion) and male. All I have to do is know they are Jewish and respect their rights. But say that person steps onto a plane and says that because they are devout, and can’t sit next to a woman, I have to give up my seat. And that I’m a hateful bigot if I don’t. Well, no. You can buy two seats, you can buy first class, you can choose not to fly.

I don’t have to give up my rights for your beliefs. As with so many rights-based arguments your right to wave your arms around ends where my nose begins.

Not you, BeLemon, obv!

Imagine if you were Jewish and someone tells you that you are not

But no one is saying they aren’t trans Judith. We’re saying they’re not women. We accept their faith in gender, just not their assertion that their faith changes material reality. For everyone. Including non believers.

I would love to see Judith Butler in a room of British TERFs.

"What the fuck are you on about Judith?"

I wasn't agreeing I just thought it stood by herself.

She has something about claiming we commit "psychic violence" on transwomen by pointing out some of them are rapists.

Language doesn't 'yield reality', you dafty.

If anyone was wondering, what does Judith Butler think? (Probably not but I've read and highlighted bits). Here we are...

"Of course, Stock and J. K. Rowling both are rightly appalled by the online bullying they have received, and I will not condone that kind of behavior, no matter who does it. We surely need a better conversation. But one reason that better conversation is difficult to have is that TERFs are denying the existence of people who have had quite a hard time gaining social recognition, legal protection from discrimination, and adequate and affirming health care. Neither Stock nor Rowling would agree that they are denying anyone’s existence, but that is because they believe they possess the only language that yields reality, and anyone who disagrees is deluded. In this way, they once again concur with right-wing discourse on trans life. Imagine if you were Jewish and someone tells you that you are not.".Judith Butler - "Who's afraid of gender?".

I agree it's incitement to violence, especially in the context that there's actually various cases of TrAs attacking TERFs. Cases can be hard to prosecute.

I’ll never understand why pro-trans people 1. Think it’s ok (cos many of them are perfectly normal law-abiding citizens) and 2. Are allowed by many services/organisations/providers to incite violence, openly threaten death and horrific violence against people who don’t agree with them when there has not been a single instance, to my knowledge, of an anti-trans group threatening harm against them. It just makes them look like unhinged psychopaths and undermines their whole argument

A sickening comment. Imagine being so blithe and also fundamentally misunderstanding the whole dynamic of dv.

I think most would be aware that her skull would be easier to split than his. Makes me think of Jane Fae’s grim tweet about why the effects of men’s violence towards women was mostly women’s fault

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3710570-Astonishing-thread-from-Jane-Fae-Darvo-at-its-finest?reply=90614180&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

There was that one man who said that men who identify as women can't possibly be accused of rape, even if they have sex with a woman against her consent, 'because of the power dynamic'.

Deluded and bloody dangerous.

The entire ideology reeks of misogyny.

A good display of vulnerable narcissism.

'I'm so powerless and she made me sad, so I was forced to harm her"

It’s just deliberate narc trolling/gaslighting. They get a kick out of it.

The ‘power dynamic’ of a male saying (or agreeing) he wishes to split a woman’s skull is that her skull would be easier for him to split than vv. Do they really not know this or simply not care?

(and of course jkr has wished trans people no ill at all, let alone making violent threats)

Haha I didn’t even see they were indeed whining about “safe spaces” when I made my comment. Beyond parody.

https://www.assignedmedia.org/breaking-news/can-you-wish-ill-jk-rowling-bluesky

https://archive.ph/2sOBa

“we took action because the user stated that they wanted to ‘split the skull’ of another person, who they named. This violates our policy of explicit death threats.”

Quote in that article from a trans activist:

“They ignore power dynamics and context. A trans person saying they wish a powerful, wealthy anti-trans bigot ill is an expression of anger and frustration from someone without power,” said Earl, “If Rowling said the exact same thing about me, it would carry an entirely different weight—leading to harassment and real harm to me directly.”

So, men who say they are trans should be perfectly free to send a woman death threats, because said men identify as having 'no power'.

Yes, surely it's incitement to violence.

It's a fucking joke when women actually get arrested for using the word castration and hanging ribbons in a tree.

I'd be right behind J. K. Rowling if she decided to sue them. There seems to be some kind of current viewpoint that you can wish violence on any woman you like, purely on the basis that you don't like her and nor does your mate.

And the comments on that Advocate article on bluesky provide handy examples of just how kind and full of love trans activists are:

'I don't wish her ill, I worse her far, far worse than that. Absolutely disgusting and unredeemable.'

'Still wish absolute ill on JKR'

'I wish I'll upon JK Rowling. I wish she experiences all the pain she has inflicted upon trans folks.'

'May black mold consume her amen'

'J. K. Rowling is a world class cunt.'

'Fuck JK Rowling for being a disgusting terf. '

'may she rot and perish in whatever slum can match the yawning, barren void of her rotting, charred heart'

'I wish ill on that mouldy old crone.'

'Personally I think it would be very unfortunate for JK Rowling to catch treatment resistant gonorrhoea.'

'I hope Rowling keeps herself safe.'

'Remember kids, its always morally correct to take a shit in front of her home when in Edinburgh, Scotland'

'hey bluesky, i don't just mildly criticise jk rowling, i want this piece of shit beaten up'

archive.ph/tYq6d

And to be clear -- I wish upon JK Rowling everything she wishes upon trans people

this bit was sweet….but only because they have no idea what JKR actually thinks

It’s incitement to violence. Doesn’t matter if it was JKR or the woman on the Clapham Omnibus no social media site should tolerate it for a second. The fact that he thinks it’s acceptable because it’s about someone he disagrees with says a lot about him as a person.