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Why are so many GC women pro-Israel?

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Krakinou · 21/08/2025 23:09

This is a feminist forum. It’s in the name. I’m a feminist, therefore logically atheist and frankly anti-religion. Certainly against any kind of religious nationalism (Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, etc.)

But surely feminism is about liberation for all women, not just the ones we agree with? The destruction of patriarchal structures, not of women and children who are conditioned by them?

I constantly see snarky comments in GC articles about Gaza and dehumanizing comments about Palestinians and Muslims generally on this board. And minimizing of the suffering of the tens of thousands of people being murdered in an internationally recognized genocide. I don’t get it. It seems out of sync with the general mumsnet feeling too - I get the impression most people on mumsnet are pretty horrified by Israel’s actions.

Does anyone else get the same impression? If so, what is the connection between being Gender Critical and being anti-Palestine? Is it just that the leftist terfs aren’t so represented here?

I’m in a feminist group in Spain and it doesn’t have the same issue at all.

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Catabogus · 21/08/2025 23:25

I think this is a reasonable question, and have also sometimes wondered this (not just on here - also in real life). I did wonder if the fact that many TRA supporters are also, via some form of general omnicause activism, so militant on the pro-Gaza front, that this has forced some GC feminists towards a more pro-Israel stance.

I mean, I have literally been caught up in a trans rights joint with Palestinian rights protest, for which the main slogan being chanted was “one struggle, one fight, Palestine and trans rights” as if the two things inevitably go together. Obviously they don’t, and shouldn’t, but I suspect it causes some forced teaming of pro-Israel views with anti-TRA activism?

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Krakinou · 21/08/2025 23:24

@WishSheWouldGoAway I think it should be obvious that I’m against sexual violence of any form especially as a weapon of war. I don’t think 50 deaths per person in revenge is proportionate response. You do?

Anyway, I’m not trying to make an argument about Palestine here. I’m asking for people’s feelings on the correlation (or not) on this board.

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WimbledonWhites · 21/08/2025 23:24

The snarky comments I see about Gaza tend to be about groups like Queers for Palestine. I would genuinely be interested to see examples of posts dehumanising Palestinians on this board because I don’t recall seeing any. Palestine and Israel aren’t discussed all that much to be honest.

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Krakinou · 21/08/2025 23:21

potpouree, I haven’t made a calculation. Just a feeling I get and wondering if other women on here have the same impression and how people feel about it.

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potpourree · 21/08/2025 23:20

I have to say that being on this forum for a long time I've never noticed it at all - most GC women have indicated that they think all violence is despicable.

SabrinaThwaite · 21/08/2025 23:20

OP, if you’re going to throw those kinds of accusations around, you’re going to need to produce the receipts.

I won’t hold my breath …

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Krakinou · 21/08/2025 23:18

I AM GC! And not a racist thanks.

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potpourree · 21/08/2025 23:18

What proportion have you calculated to be pro-Israel and how did you reach this figure?

Bit hard to have an actual discussion on it if we're all guessing what you're talking about as "so many". Three? 90%?

Or by all means don't bother if you want this to be a logic-free thread of throwing guessed accusations around.

WishSheWouldGoAway · 21/08/2025 23:18

But surely feminism is about liberation for all women, not just the ones we agree with?

That's why the utter silence of most of the women on mumsnet, about the brutality and sexual torture, israeli women were subjected to on the seventh of october, appalls me.

You first as a feminist, have you not spoken out about the rape and torture these women were subjected to?

Or do you just parrot the word genocide like all the rest.

MindytheWonderHorse · 21/08/2025 23:18

I don’t think this is right at all. There is an anti-trans strain in politics which is v right wing and pro Israel and wanting to enforce gendered norms of behaviour. That’s completely separate from GC feminists who are across the spectrum politically (although IME more on the left) and very much against the idea of gendered norms.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 21/08/2025 23:17

Right wing belief system.

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Krakinou · 21/08/2025 23:16

@curious79 I know one doesn’t logically follow the other. That’s why I’m confused/upset about it. A small example but reading the thread about the new party and people slagging off “GazaMPs”, making sweeping statements about Muslims marrying cousins, “Jezbollah” etc

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Hoardasurass · 21/08/2025 23:14

Ah the forced teaming of gc=racist haven't you got anything original

curious79 · 21/08/2025 23:11

No, I don’t get the same impression at all that you do
I feel like you’re trying to conflate two different sets of views. One does not automatically follow the other.