Transwoman accused of sexual assault after concealing male genitalia on date

You know when I read a load of guff like this, I have to remind myself that approximately half the population have a below average IQ. It's not their fault.

1. Men who say they prefer natural-looking women receive a lot of abuse and are told that they shouldn't be telling women how to style themselves.

1. Women who go for the "Kardashian look" (or any other style that isn't natural) overwhelmingly state that they don't choose that style because men like it, and instead, they are "doing it for themselves." Men's opinions and preferences therefore are not relevant.

I read through this thread over the course of a few hours.

Fascinating stuff that made me feel, if I'm totally honest, so very old and not to mention quite sexually out dated in view of the current curriculum which is way more inclusive and fluid now than it was when I was at school.

I'm 45 and from the days when identifying wasn't even really heard of and I never heard of anyone actually practicing it, nor did I ever read about it.

Whilst I do believe in my own mind what she did was wrong because they were much younger back then and she probably looked much different, I think eventually the laws will have to change to reflect what the youth of today are growing up with and accepting as the new inclusive norm and a safer world for all.

Love is love is the theme of the future, not just today. It is only the biological aspect that is holding us to the ground in that respect that we do still see a difference between men and women. But then we also have non binary people of all ages who are not male, nor are they female. They change sometimes too on a daily or sometimes even an hourly basis.

One thing I notice is that this wouldn't have even been an issue to be considered had she not sent him a message confirming that before the age of 7 she had lived as a male. I cant see this being much of an issue in the future as it will be a much more inclusive and accepting, safer space for everyone.

I feel concern for everyone involved and wish them all the very best if they are reading this. xx

Wouldn't it be nice if straight men became less attracted to surgery face and lots of make up on a woman the so called kardashian look, and started to prefer natural looking girls again because that other style is trans style and too risky. Then these girls won't need to get surgery and spend all their time doing make up and hair. Probably hoping for too much sense from the kind of men who like that look.

Are you saying it’s ok for someone to coerce someone into non consensual sex? You’re condoning rape? Why are you wishing someone who coerced someone into non consensual sex the best?

No to all the above.
They are both young and confused and we are all looking at it from the way we were brought up and the schooling we had about sex education, now its quite the different world, it would appear she got the message but he might not have. Not that it's his fault and she should have been more understanding about his feelings also, I am not condoning anything, but neither do I have a magic wand to undo what happend.

It's not that I am saying its acceptable, I cant even imagine it ever happening WITHOUT consent in the first instance.

Are you saying it’s ok for someone to coerce someone into non consensual sex? You’re condoning rape? Why are you wishing someone who coerced someone into non consensual sex the best?

No to all the above.
They are both young and confused and we are all looking at it from the way we were brought up and the schooling we had about sex education, now its quite the different world, it would appear she got the message but he might not have. Not that it's his fault and she should have been more understanding about his feelings also, I am not condoning anything, but neither do I have a magic wand to undo what happend.

Well the message is to get to know the person you might be falling in love with and to find out who they are BEFORE you have sex with them.

Regardless of it being a trans thing, that is what used to happen in the "good old days".

It sounds like the problem some of you are having isn't with me at all, but the new way of learning the youth are being introduced to. That's my observation here. And in no way have I ever mentioned the perversion of sex with minors, I'm talking to the people who mentioned it above, not to the person I am quoting.

Was the biological woman there when it happend?

It's rather hard (pardon the pun) not to notice the difference. If it was in the dark I suppose that could happen. However, sex is sex at the end of the day, it's up to the two of them to find out what's happening before it takes place. You cant get around that unless they met in the dark and never saw each others bodies.

I don't really see how your scenario could ever happen in the first place. It rather paints the biological women as you explain in a rather bimbo like light that radiates only ignorance, even if they are in pitch black darkness.

What would the biological woman possibly think was going on other than a penis unless it was stated something was going to have to be added in order for that to take place? It's not rape no, she consented and I hope a woman like that in 2025 doesn't exist.

She knew about him, but He wasn't given the chance to find out.

The period lie is was wrong. Had he waited she would have had no excuse but to tell him the truth. They should have explored each others minds before sex.

Well the message is to get to know the person you might be falling in love with and to find out who they are BEFORE you have sex with them.

Regardless of it being a trans thing, that is what used to happen in the "good old days".

It sounds like the problem some of you are having isn't with me at all, but the new way of learning the youth are being introduced to. That's my observation here. And in no way have I ever mentioned the perversion of sex with minors, I'm talking to the people who mentioned it above, not to the person I am quoting.

What is the message?

There's certainly no love involved in duping someone into sex.

@TheseWordsAreMine Hypothetically, suppose a transwoman has penetrative sex with a biological woman. The transwomen does not tell her that she is penetrating her with a real penis. The biological woman only finds out later and would not have agreed to this if she had known. Would you consider that rape?

Are you saying it’s ok for someone to coerce someone into non consensual sex? You’re condoning rape? Why are you wishing someone who coerced someone into non consensual sex the best?

No to all the above.
They are both young and confused and we are all looking at it from the way we were brought up and the schooling we had about sex education, now its quite the different world, it would appear she got the message but he might not have. Not that it's his fault and she should have been more understanding about his feelings also, I am not condoning anything, but neither do I have a magic wand to undo what happend.

Are you saying it’s ok for someone to coerce someone into non consensual sex? You’re condoning rape? Why are you wishing someone who coerced someone into non consensual sex the best?

No to all the above.
They are both young and confused and we are all looking at it from the way we were brought up and the schooling we had about sex education, now its quite the different world, it would appear she got the message but he might not have. Not that it's his fault and she should have been more understanding about his feelings also, I am not condoning anything, but neither do I have a magic wand to undo what happend.

It is a slogan used by those who wish to have sex with children made legal and to remove the stigma from paedophilia.

Anyone who uses it has lost all sense.

The British Heart Foundation print cushions with that quote on it. It's an LGBTQI+ slogan.