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Germany "Neo-Nazi changes gender to serve in women’s prison"

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singthing · 20/08/2025 18:11

Given the German legislature's bonkers decision last year (that allows 14 year old children to change their names and adults to apply for that for children even younger), let's hope this is their Sturgeon moment.

But more importantly than that, let's hope the female inmates at Chemnitz remain safe from this monstrous man. He'll be easy to spot, what with his full lady-moustache and repellent views.

Main link: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/08/20/neo-nazi-changes-gender-serve-womens-prison/
Archive link: https://archive.ph/F7UFn

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SirBasil · 23/08/2025 10:49

I didn't have time to do much reading around yesterday, but the issue of transwomen in women's prisons is a huge problem here. Prison policy is devolved to the individual states in some respects, afaik, and this means that getting information is difficult. Lasst Frauen Sprechen did a FOI but the ministry involved want them to pay a lot of money to get the info because it is such a lot of work (presumably because they don't record sex as well as gender identity)

They have cobbled together info which isn't current, and comes from before the introduction of the selfID law, but each state has at least some. And there have been incidents at some, including towards female warders. The current official position everywhere is "case by case".

My issue with this, as is probably everyone else's on this board, is that it differentiates between "categories" of transwomen. That is not the point of selfID and even while i don't support selfID, i do support consistency, and impartiality, in law. From a TW pov, of course, all TW no matter what they have done (to others, as well as to themselves) are W and therefore belong in women's prisons. And that is the law. So we should uphold the law and tell prisons that they are not allowed to have any discernment AT ALL.

From a safety pov, of course, most of these men belong in men's prisons. (from a sex realist pov, ALL of these men belong in men's prisons). I am fairly confident that at some point the government are going to have a look at SelfID and can it. Somehow.

But i really don't want it to be the NAZIS who are bringing this to the mainstream news finally, when women have been shouting about it (at the risk of fines/prison) for years. Typically the parties who introduced the law - FDP, SDP and particularly the Greens are staying stumm and not answering any questions from the press or womens groups at all.

moto748e · 23/08/2025 10:35

Some top branes at work there.

Lalgarh · 23/08/2025 10:31

Blocked and Reported Reddit has picked this up, and JKRs observation that punching Nazis is good but misgendering one unforgivable

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlockedAndReported/comments/1mxgb8q/german_controversy_surrounds_jail_term_for/

They've also got normie attempts to rationalise Respecting Rpists pronouns

Redditor on misgendering Hitler.
"Gendering someone isnt necessarily respecting the individual, Its just acknowledging the reality...
Same thing with rapists, if someone uses a preffered pronoun we should use that pronoun and refer to them by their gender because It's just what it is. Misgendering someone is weird and dumb in the same way calling your mum 'father' is weird and dumb.
But if, you intentionally misgender a T Person you know irl and repeat it a Lot the person will get sick of you easily, because you know it makes them feel weird and awkward stuff but you keep making them feel like that intentionally and Thats annoying and it makes you disrespect them (not the earned respect, the mandatory kind of respect) for no reason the same way calling your mum father all the time."

https://preview.redd.it/3a91m30npevd1.png?width=1197&format=png&auto=webp&s=d4c44baa09d6e67b5b2766373a062367d8a1b1c2

SirBasil · 22/08/2025 22:19

he's tweeting, tagging JKR into it.

I suspect a publicity stunt - to highlight the absurdity of the self ID law. I would rather politicians listenned to Terre des Femmes and Lasst Frauen Sprechen, tbh.

I've attached the translated version of the tweet

Germany "Neo-Nazi changes gender to serve in women’s prison"
SirBasil · 22/08/2025 22:12

just having a quick scoot around for articles in the German press

Die Welt
(archive link)

http://archive.today/Ia5VZ

Igmum · 22/08/2025 16:08

Boiledbeetle · 22/08/2025 15:36

I'm fairly sure you were there that night!

😂😂😂

Boiledbeetle · 22/08/2025 15:36

Igmum · 22/08/2025 15:28

I can’t help but feel that this bloke is the creation of a group of German GC women who had a drunken conversation in the Bluestocking along the lines of ‘what would it take for the government to realise this policy is insane?’ I can imagine it now:

OK, ok so what if a man with a moustache said he was a woman eh?

And - and - and went to a women’s prison

A moustache AND a hat

Gotta have a hat

And he’s a Nazi!

<drunken laughter as the gerbils bring more Weiss Bier>

I'm fairly sure you were there that night!

Germany "Neo-Nazi changes gender to serve in women’s prison"
Igmum · 22/08/2025 15:28

I can’t help but feel that this bloke is the creation of a group of German GC women who had a drunken conversation in the Bluestocking along the lines of ‘what would it take for the government to realise this policy is insane?’ I can imagine it now:

OK, ok so what if a man with a moustache said he was a woman eh?

And - and - and went to a women’s prison

A moustache AND a hat

Gotta have a hat

And he’s a Nazi!

<drunken laughter as the gerbils bring more Weiss Bier>

SirBasil · 22/08/2025 12:22

Haven't checked the German press yet.

But IIRC they have to use his preferred pronouns or face a fine/jail time.

Will be interesting to see what the trans politicians say too

SirBasil · 22/08/2025 12:16

ChaToilLeam · 20/08/2025 18:38

Thanks for posting! Haven't heard a dicky bird about this here in Deutschland.

Follow Lasst Frauen Sprechen on twitter - they're all over this

lcakethereforeIam · 22/08/2025 12:08

Are the German press even reporting this respecting his pronouns? Wasn't a feminist fined recently for misgendering a bloke? It would be interesting if he sued for that, this could be a neo-nazi money spinner.

TwelvePercent · 22/08/2025 10:05

Popped back to see what the TRA take was on the literal literal nazi situation, but nothing yet? Sad times.

As professional athletes when it comes to mental gymnastics, they MUST have an opinion on why this is fine and actually literally evidences why gender identity is the way.

I'm so here for it.

MoProblems · 21/08/2025 20:50

roseyposey · 21/08/2025 11:11

Wanted to say exactly this too.

I thought we gender critical women were the Nazis and the transgender people were all good, kind, caring citizens?

My lady brain can’t cope with this piece of news that contradicts everything the TG believers have ever insisted on I believed to be true 😜

Me confused. But me thinks:

Trans nazi = oppressed minority.
cis nazi = the most evil wimminz to walk the earth.

Could be wrong…

BunfightBetty · 21/08/2025 20:47

Winterwonders24 · 21/08/2025 19:14

Pronouns:He/Himmler

(Not mine but made me laugh)

🤣 🤣🤣

If only the powers that be had been warned that this would happen….

moto748e · 21/08/2025 20:38

Yes, he's just like those Spanish soldiers in that regard.

ItsCoolForCats · 21/08/2025 20:35

DrSpartacularsMagnificentOctopus · 21/08/2025 10:52

I read it and assumed he's doing it as a stunt to highlight the nonsensical self-ID law.

I don't think it's a stunt as I think he is after an easier ride in prison. But I do think he is laughing at them. I mean, he doesn't even have to bother shaving his moustache. He is legally female. And none of these morons who ushered in self ID can say otherwise.

Bluebootsgreenboots · 21/08/2025 20:09

Winterwonders24 · 21/08/2025 19:14

Pronouns:He/Himmler

(Not mine but made me laugh)

I now use the heart reaction in place of the laugh one. Didn’t feel it was right in this case, so I’ll just say ‘Hah!’

Charabanc · 21/08/2025 19:48

singthing · 21/08/2025 19:37

I am trying to parse the "my enemy's enemy is my friend" statement with the claim that KJK is friends with Nazis*, so this would logically mean they hate Nazis, yet a Nazi is a beloved TW so they surely must love ands care for this poor innocent and vulnerable soul?

I fear if you were to throw a cat with buttered toast on its back into this equation it would be stuck spinning in the air forever more.

*not to mention the whole point of this being a gargantuan lie anyway.

Edited

I fear if you were to throw a cat with buttered toast on its back into this equation it would be stuck spinning in the air forever more.

Heisenberg's cat 🐱

singthing · 21/08/2025 19:37

Namelessnelly · 21/08/2025 05:39

That’s what I don’t get. If Literal Nazis are now trans, then does that mean those opposing gender woo are not Nazis? So if he and his Nazi trans friends turned up to oppose LWS events, the TRA could t claim to be anti fa as they would actually be the literal fascists.

I am trying to parse the "my enemy's enemy is my friend" statement with the claim that KJK is friends with Nazis*, so this would logically mean they hate Nazis, yet a Nazi is a beloved TW so they surely must love ands care for this poor innocent and vulnerable soul?

I fear if you were to throw a cat with buttered toast on its back into this equation it would be stuck spinning in the air forever more.

*not to mention the whole point of this being a gargantuan lie anyway.

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Charabanc · 21/08/2025 19:25

MistyGreenAndBlue · 21/08/2025 14:34

He admitted it. Actually stated this was the reason and they STILL allowed it. Unbelievable!

They have to. If it is the law that a man can self ID as a woman, you have to go through with it.

There isn't a subsection of the law that "They have to be a lovely person".

You reap what you sow. Hope the German media cover this. Obvs they're a tad touchy about neo Nazis, but let's hope.

Charabanc · 21/08/2025 19:23

I am sure that Nicola Sturgeon will be along to invent another gender for "that person", just like she invented the "rapist" gender for Isla Bryson.

But also lol at all the "Look who is standing with you, you literal Nazis!!" TRAs 😆

Winterwonders24 · 21/08/2025 19:14

Pronouns:He/Himmler

(Not mine but made me laugh)

HidingBehindTheWallpaper · 21/08/2025 18:58

Swamphag · 21/08/2025 14:42

They'll be along any minute.
Any minute now...
Taps foot

Has the signal not gone up?

Swamphag · 21/08/2025 14:42

TheSixthBestOption · 21/08/2025 10:46

It would be interesting to know what our resident TRAs think about this.

They'll be along any minute.
Any minute now...
Taps foot

MistyGreenAndBlue · 21/08/2025 14:34

Bluebootsgreenboots · 20/08/2025 18:21

Are you suggesting that this poor man has transitioned just to avoid being incarcerated in a prison with other men?? I’m shocked I tell you. Stunned. Who’d have thought?

He admitted it. Actually stated this was the reason and they STILL allowed it. Unbelievable!