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NapoleonsToe · 23/08/2025 09:15

SnowFrogJelly · 23/08/2025 01:28

I’m tired of all the male bashing

I'm tired of all the male bashing too. All the males bashing, punching, kicking, strangling, raping, sexually assaulting and killing women and girls.

We won't shut up until it stops, which, lets face it, it never will. If that tires you, run along.

illinivich · 23/08/2025 08:57

TV and radio presenter Rylan Clark has called for there to be more stories about transgender people amid a “mass wave of hate"

There are already so many stories about transgender people. They are represented in fiction, on tv, the bbc website always has trans stories.

So i dont know what he means? Is that not enough?

What does he mean by a mass wave of hate? Is it the SC ruling and news stories about trans people commiting crime. Or more about online commentary.

If its about the news, why should there be more stories about 'nice' transpeople to change the balance? Isn't that patronising to individual 'communities' and the public in general.

If he means online discussion, he needs to understand that people have different perspectives and experiences to him, and have the right to talk about it.

When women are talking about the man approaching a girl in thr bra department, for example, its strange that Rylan feels the need to distract from that.

So rylan is either unaware of the problems or knows about them and wants to sidetrack the discussion.

If hes as bright as people here claim, its odd that hes unaware, and quite manipulative if he is attempting to drown out safely concerns.

Rylan Clark | The Independent

The latest breaking news, comment and features from The Independent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/rylan-clark

ThatBlackCat · 23/08/2025 01:34

SnowFrogJelly · 23/08/2025 01:30

Who are ‘they’ exactly?! Oh most learned group of women…

Those who suggest we "go and do some 'proper' research", yet never, ever, ever have any research or facts themselves...

SnowFrogJelly · 23/08/2025 01:30

ThatBlackCat · 23/08/2025 01:28

They are not interested in facts or evidence though. They always hope we never have it (though they should know better by now - there is no group of more learned, armed to the gills with receipts than the women in this section) and then get frustrated and flounce when we bring the receipts. Facts and evidence is like kryptonite to them. Like a crucifix held up to a vampire.

Who are ‘they’ exactly?! Oh most learned group of women…

ThatBlackCat · 23/08/2025 01:29

SnowFrogJelly · 23/08/2025 01:28

I’m tired of all the male bashing

Yeah, poor, poor males. How dare we hurt the menz little feels to not get whatever they want whenever they want. How dare anyone hold the oppressor and predator class to account. How dare women defend ourselves.

If you're tired of women defending ourselves, no one is forcing you to come on here.

SnowFrogJelly · 23/08/2025 01:28

ThatBlackCat · 23/08/2025 01:22

You don't understand. It's not 'trans' bashing. It's MALE bashing.

I’m tired of all the male bashing

ThatBlackCat · 23/08/2025 01:22

SnowFrogJelly · 22/08/2025 23:20

I’m not trying to start a fight! Just a bit tired of all the trans bashing on here

You don't understand. It's not 'trans' bashing. It's MALE bashing.

NapoleonsToe · 22/08/2025 23:47

StMarie4me · 21/08/2025 04:01

WTAF?! Are you…. Are you suggesting that any carers, female, male, trans, are SEXUALISING ELDERLY CARE???

Wow. That’s a new low on here. Thought I’d seen all the twisted hate I could, on here, but wow.

Sexualising care. Just wow.

You think that wanting same sex intimate care is twisted hate? Don't be a prat.

My DD was recently completely incapacitated in hospital. Do you think she, and other women and girls shouldn't have the right to ask for a female to wash her genitals? 'Just wow' - to quote your inane phrase.

Plasticwaste · 22/08/2025 23:47

SnowFrogJelly · 22/08/2025 23:20

I’m not trying to start a fight! Just a bit tired of all the trans bashing on here

Yawn.

AnSolas · 22/08/2025 23:43

SnowFrogJelly · 22/08/2025 23:20

I’m not trying to start a fight! Just a bit tired of all the trans bashing on here

He is a gay man.

He has decided to upsell an ideology which undermineds womens rights.

You were choosing to ignoring that men abuse elderly women too and allowing men to claim to be women and be managed under a female risk assessment metric raises the risk factor of a woman being abused.

SnowFrogJelly · 22/08/2025 23:20

RedToothBrush · 22/08/2025 14:30

So you have moved on from ignoring the issue raised upthread and having denied there is a problem because fuck knows reason and start on this which I don't disagree with. He doesn't deserve that. I really like Rylan. His style is his trademark and he makes a joke of it himself.

But all that said he's not without flaw. He's missing the point here as he clearly has a blind spot. I actually understand it given his position. It's not an excuse, but as I say it's surprising it's taken him this long to say something. It suggests he's been put under a certain amount of pressure because he hasn't said anything previously.

And ultimately you are just trying to start a fight. And we can see through it.

I’m not trying to start a fight! Just a bit tired of all the trans bashing on here

SprayWhiteDung · 22/08/2025 14:31

Whatisthisdamnednonsense · 21/08/2025 15:27

Ryland is codeword for “thick AF” in our household eg Stop being a Ryland!

DH added the d at the end of the name and it makes us laugh every time.

Rylan really is being a Ryland in this case.

He has a feature on his own radio show called Desert Ryland Discs, doesn't he?

RedToothBrush · 22/08/2025 14:30

SnowFrogJelly · 22/08/2025 14:24

So Rylan calls for more stories about transgender people and this merits a stream of criticism of his looks and intelligence..

So you have moved on from ignoring the issue raised upthread and having denied there is a problem because fuck knows reason and start on this which I don't disagree with. He doesn't deserve that. I really like Rylan. His style is his trademark and he makes a joke of it himself.

But all that said he's not without flaw. He's missing the point here as he clearly has a blind spot. I actually understand it given his position. It's not an excuse, but as I say it's surprising it's taken him this long to say something. It suggests he's been put under a certain amount of pressure because he hasn't said anything previously.

And ultimately you are just trying to start a fight. And we can see through it.

SnowFrogJelly · 22/08/2025 14:24

So Rylan calls for more stories about transgender people and this merits a stream of criticism of his looks and intelligence..

Merrymouse · 22/08/2025 11:00

As with many, by deliberately failing to get to grips with the issues - women's rights and concerns about medical malpractice - he does a disservice to the people he claims to support.

Lottapianos · 22/08/2025 09:07

'He needs to tone down that hair and beard dye'

I'm sure it's a deliberately extreme signature look, like Claudia Winkleman

bloodymary2025 · 22/08/2025 04:42

He needs to tone down that hair and beard dye. Maybe a light brown would be less...jarring? The black just vibrates in the worst way possible, ovrrdyed to the point it's conducting electricity it's practically buzzing like static or a fly.
That agasint his Vicki pollard/ David Dickingson/Dale Winton ( rip least we forget 🛒) foundation.

RedToothBrush · 22/08/2025 04:38

SnowFrogJelly · 22/08/2025 00:38

Your link is an advert for an American law firm .. suggest you go and do some proper research

I said there were hundreds of websites. That was just the first of many.

If it's an American law firm there's clearly lots of legal cases on the subject.

If that's the best response you've got, I would suggest you aren't taking the problem seriously enough and are part of the problem of not believing elderly people.

It's not about proving me right or wrong because I haven't provided a link you approve of. It's about recognising this is something that actually happens.

I am calling sea lion. For the 'prove it' shite.

No, you go away and take a look and see if I'm making it up and prove me wrong.

ThatBlackCat · 22/08/2025 01:53

SnowFrogJelly · 22/08/2025 00:38

Your link is an advert for an American law firm .. suggest you go and do some proper research

So evidence and research on the universal qualities of males is relegated only to the UK?

AnSolas · 22/08/2025 01:49

TheAmusedQuail · 21/08/2025 16:32

myplace · Yesterday 16:27
Isn’t he very close to his Nan? He needs a little think about who he wants doing her intimate care, or on her hospital ward.

StMarie4me · Today 04:01
WTAF?! Are you…. Are you suggesting that any carers, female, male, trans, are SEXUALISING ELDERLY CARE???
Wow. That’s a new low on here. Thought I’d seen all the twisted hate I could, on here, but wow.
Sexualising care. Just wow.

I know, right? The depths the anti trans brigade will sink to proselytize their message.

So why do you think abusive men would not access easy victims if they are given an opening to access an easy victim?

SnowFrogJelly · 22/08/2025 00:38

RedToothBrush · 21/08/2025 09:40

You are aware that grannies get raped aren't you?

Just because they are old and crinkly doesn't mean they are safe from sexual abuse.

Unfortunately because they are vulnerable they are a target.

Don't forget some men actively placed 'fuck a pig' and have a mentality of 'any goal is a hole'.

Did you think this type of man suddenly developed morals, standards or respect for women after they reached a certain age?

This is the first result I got from Google on the subject. It says that sexual abuse of the elderly is more common than you think with one of the problems being that victims often can't report the abuse or are not believed. (You are aiding that culture here with your disbelief)
https://www.nursinghomeabusecenter.com/elder-abuse/types/sexual-abuse/

The common offender? A carer.

I could have picked many other articles on the subject. This is just the first I looked at. It's widespread and a known significant issue.

Given that patterns of offending do not change following males transitioning, we absolutely should be worried about ALL male carers of women regardless of the age, disability or mental capacity of that woman (or girl).

I'm sorry if this comes as a shock to you, but it's not MN providing this low. We are just aware of the problem, you don't want to acknowledge and you are actively shooting the messenger on this subject.

Go away and do some research.

Your link is an advert for an American law firm .. suggest you go and do some proper research

SnowFrogJelly · 22/08/2025 00:30

Plasticwaste · 21/08/2025 17:32

Sure, MN. Delete my post where I tell the truth about cross-dressing men. Censorship really endears the cause.

Do tell again

SnowFrogJelly · 22/08/2025 00:30

Whatisthisdamnednonsense · 21/08/2025 15:27

Ryland is codeword for “thick AF” in our household eg Stop being a Ryland!

DH added the d at the end of the name and it makes us laugh every time.

Rylan really is being a Ryland in this case.

Hilarious

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