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This thread is specifically for people who think JK Rowling is awful so..

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CurlewKate · 18/08/2025 05:44

If you don't think she is please don’t post. Please can you tell me specifically what she has said or done that is so bad. I promise that I will listen and not argue. If you could include links that would be great. If your inclination is to assume that I’m posting in bad faith and any reasonably well informed person must be stupid or bigoted not to know, then please just let the thread die.

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Helleofabore · 19/08/2025 15:49

Posters are not going to post evidence because there is nothing that they can directly link to that doesn't show how weak the evidence is behind their formed opinions.

As I said earlier, those holding her to unreal expectations surely forget that she is an author. She is not in a position where she is absorbing personal abuse for the ‘position’ such as a PM is expected. She is an author.

Yet these posts seem to expect that she is to act in ways that a country’s head of state should act. Along with working on all these campaigns to fix government policies that are not working etc.

And all to suit people’s individual wish list of political aims. A list that if she deviates from that person’s list, she is apparently worthy of being labelled ‘awful’ or worse by that individual.

She is held to account like no author I know.

She is expected to act like a queen or a PM and fix the world while absorbing all the abuse she gets. She is expected to be the penultimate activist while still producing entertainment for the masses and raising a family out of the lime light.

Which other person on this planet is held to this level of expectation across such a wide range of political interests?

reetsreet · 19/08/2025 15:42

Shortshriftandlethal · 19/08/2025 15:23

She gives as good as she gets...that is what people don't like. It's supposedly fine for people like India willoughby to say insulting or plainly ridiculous things; or for people like Boy George to pass comment...but when she fails to be cowed by that...people hate her even more.

hey @Viviennemary can you please give us some specific examples and quotes which underline what you describe as her hate?

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 19/08/2025 15:35

Shortshriftandlethal · 19/08/2025 14:42

You've clearly not been following her many posts on the subject of women's rights in Iran and Afghanistan, or any any other topic. Why not? Perhaps you are simply focusing on what it is that you choose to be offended by?

Nooooo as @MissScarletInTheBallroom says, these posters are just incredibly, exceptionally busy.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 19/08/2025 15:32

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 10:01

Everything, anything, you name it, she did it. All the bad and evil in the world, it’s all down to her.

Oh so she's the reason I had such a terrible headache last weekend. I was going to blame copious amounts of wine (I was at a wedding to be fair) but I should've known it was that bloody woman. 🙄.

Shortshriftandlethal · 19/08/2025 15:27

CurlewKate · 19/08/2025 15:21

Apologies. I had no intention to be provocative or bad faith or any of the other things I’ve obviously appeared to be. And far be it from me to censor anyone- I was just hoping that this thread could be a little more targeted than many of the others. I am surrounded by people I love who are “JKR is a transphobe” inclination-I cannot ask them because we have agreed never to discuss the subject on pain of me losing them. I was hoping that this thread would help me understand their point of view. I was hoping for some clear links to her transphobic statements and beliefs-because I have not been able to find any myself and, frankly I want to be able to say to them. “Oh, I see what you mean! Even if I disagree with you, I see what you mean.”

You won't find what you are looking for, because it really doesn't exist. All of the hatred towards her is based on ignorance ( not even having read in full her original statement) and on the plain old nastiness and prejudice of human nature, which is exacerbated by social media. People really seem to need to have objects of hatred, in order to affirm their tribal belonging.

I think she deserves a medal. The absolute vileness that she has been subjected to is inhuman. All for speaking out in favour of the dignity of women and girls.

theilltemperedmaggotintheheartofthelaw · 19/08/2025 15:26

MarieDeGournay · 19/08/2025 14:40

I just came on to make a similar point, Shortshriftandlethal, but you beat me to it!
I was going to say that if one thing has come out of this thread loud and clear, it's that by saying 'If you don't think she is please don’t post.' the OP has provided us with an opportunity to show what a disobedient, insubordinate, uncontrollable, mutinous bunch we are. Even the magic word 'please' didn't work!
Nobody puts the Feminism: Sex and gender discussion posters in a corner😁

I didn't think it was a bad premise for a thread. We've all had that experience, of asking what's so awful about JKR, and getting side-eye for asking such a transphobic question. There was an outside chance that someone would actually answer, instead of throwing dust with stuff about Quidditch and sweatshops, or telling us to consult trans Reddit (who also never say - she's just axiomatically evil according to them).

Anyhow, transphobe = non-believer. That is all.

Shortshriftandlethal · 19/08/2025 15:23

Viviennemary · 18/08/2025 09:15

I agree. I'm not in favour of trans people taking part in sport in women teams. I'm totally against it, But her anti trans stand borders on hatred which isnt acceptable.

She gives as good as she gets...that is what people don't like. It's supposedly fine for people like India willoughby to say insulting or plainly ridiculous things; or for people like Boy George to pass comment...but when she fails to be cowed by that...people hate her even more.

CurlewKate · 19/08/2025 15:21

Apologies. I had no intention to be provocative or bad faith or any of the other things I’ve obviously appeared to be. And far be it from me to censor anyone- I was just hoping that this thread could be a little more targeted than many of the others. I am surrounded by people I love who are “JKR is a transphobe” inclination-I cannot ask them because we have agreed never to discuss the subject on pain of me losing them. I was hoping that this thread would help me understand their point of view. I was hoping for some clear links to her transphobic statements and beliefs-because I have not been able to find any myself and, frankly I want to be able to say to them. “Oh, I see what you mean! Even if I disagree with you, I see what you mean.”

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Shortshriftandlethal · 19/08/2025 14:42

TheLudditesWereRight · 18/08/2025 09:05

I admire her charity work but dislike her social media presence because I think people with huge reach and influence who engage in petty smackdowns of people they disagree with is not a good look. Does she ever post about anything else?

You've clearly not been following her many posts on the subject of women's rights in Iran and Afghanistan, or any any other topic. Why not? Perhaps you are simply focusing on what it is that you choose to be offended by?

MarieDeGournay · 19/08/2025 14:40

Shortshriftandlethal · 19/08/2025 14:30

Nobody is going to comply with the demands of the thread starter. It is simply provocative, as well as being down right ignorant.

I just came on to make a similar point, Shortshriftandlethal, but you beat me to it!
I was going to say that if one thing has come out of this thread loud and clear, it's that by saying 'If you don't think she is please don’t post.' the OP has provided us with an opportunity to show what a disobedient, insubordinate, uncontrollable, mutinous bunch we are. Even the magic word 'please' didn't work!
Nobody puts the Feminism: Sex and gender discussion posters in a corner😁

Shortshriftandlethal · 19/08/2025 14:39

Viviennemary · 18/08/2025 08:50

Exactly. Just because somebody doesn't agree with you there is no need to act superior. J K Rowling is very divisive. She has managed to fall out with the main actors the Harry Potter films. I've got got friends whose views I don't agree with and they don't agree with mine.

No, JK Rowling is simply a lighning rod for the hatred of other people. The same people who have not been able to tolerate disagreement or dissent for many years. Most haven't even bothered to read her 'original' post...the one supposedly so controversial. People simply bitch about her because that is what they do to pass the time.

Shortshriftandlethal · 19/08/2025 14:35

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:43

I never said she was embarrassing. Other people have labelled me as that.

I saw a really good post on here a few weeks ago about how there are much, much more pressing issues facing us. Our NHS being stripped, children living in poverty, the cost of living crisis. Things like trans people, the “boat people” etc are used by politicians as a diversion tactic to hide that they’re not doing anything to address the actual issues.

You do realise that JK has been a major supporter of multiple charities that support both women and children for many, many years, as well as being a major donor to the Labour Party. ( The first woman ever to have donated a million pounds to Labour) Most of what she does is hidden and she seeks no publicity for it.

You ned to expand your awareness beyond the confines of the twiitersphere.

Shortshriftandlethal · 19/08/2025 14:30

Nobody is going to comply with the demands of the thread starter. It is simply provocative, as well as being down right ignorant.

Coffeetime25 · 19/08/2025 14:27

what exactly word for word did she say?

what does social medias tell you to think about jkr?

what do you think she said

need an honest answer to all three so I can make informed decisions which I no is wrong as I should just do what sm tells me to and think how sm tells me to think but I like to think for myself

PractisingMyTelekenipsis · 19/08/2025 14:24

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 13:52

Of course I was! It was in response to an earlier post by someone saying that JKR would be better off if she wasn’t so ‘spiky and unpleasant’.

Sorry! I can't keep track of who's mocking and who's in agreement!

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 14:17

‘Women talk about bras’ no mate, we really don’t, creepy, obsessed men pretending to be women may talk about them but on the whole women don’t.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 14:12

Merrymouse · 19/08/2025 13:55

😆

Out of interest, do men talk to men about pants?

I’m not sure I want to think about that 👀

RobinEllacotStrike · 19/08/2025 14:02

I think he another one who will never give up as he transed his kid

TheKeatingFive · 19/08/2025 14:02

That guy is unhinged. I think he transed a child and now cannot cope with any commentary that's not total affirmation, 'stunning and brave', right side of history, etc, etc.

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 14:00

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/08/2025 13:57

I’ve always assumed that guy was a bit of a chaser of “trans women”. Just my impression.

He does hang around with them more than seems normal. It doesn't seem a passing 'i just happen to know a few people who happen to be trans' does it?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/08/2025 13:57

I’ve always assumed that guy was a bit of a chaser of “trans women”. Just my impression.

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 13:55

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 13:45

Here’s JKR being spiky and unpleasant again.

Why on earth does this dipstick think women talk about their bras on twitter all the time?

Either he's Searching 'bra' and seeing what posts come up or he's actively following accounts which talk about bras more than is normal.

He seems to think transwomen talk about bras all the time which suggests he's following a lot of transwomen who do talk about bras a lot and he thinks this is normal. Which probably says a lot about him and the accounts he follows.

What he hasn't got is a clue about how actual women behave and thinks he's an authority on what they do. He's got an idea in his head about women are and what women do and thinks this fantasy is reality and then mansplains to us all what being a woman is. He thinks knows more than actual women.

Which is utterly hilarious.

But I don't think we are supposed to point out what a nitwit he is and JKR certainly isn't being she's mean and evil and should remain silent so she's not accused of using the wrong tone.

Meanwhile fuckwit blokes say shite like this.

Merrymouse · 19/08/2025 13:55

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 13:45

Here’s JKR being spiky and unpleasant again.

😆

Out of interest, do men talk to men about pants?

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 13:52

PractisingMyTelekenipsis · 19/08/2025 13:48

Spiky and unpleasant? I see sarcasm which is all that nonsense deserves tbh. Maybe you were also being sarcastic?

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Of course I was! It was in response to an earlier post by someone saying that JKR would be better off if she wasn’t so ‘spiky and unpleasant’.

PractisingMyTelekenipsis · 19/08/2025 13:48

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 13:45

Here’s JKR being spiky and unpleasant again.

Spiky and unpleasant? I see sarcasm which is all that nonsense deserves tbh. Maybe you were also being sarcastic?