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This thread is specifically for people who think JK Rowling is awful so..

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CurlewKate · 18/08/2025 05:44

If you don't think she is please don’t post. Please can you tell me specifically what she has said or done that is so bad. I promise that I will listen and not argue. If you could include links that would be great. If your inclination is to assume that I’m posting in bad faith and any reasonably well informed person must be stupid or bigoted not to know, then please just let the thread die.

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SapphireSeptember · 19/08/2025 22:57

I love the picture of her with a cigar and whiskey (?) and it gave me a laugh.

The Hallmarked Man comes out in a couple of weeks, can't wait! 😁

fabricstash · 19/08/2025 22:37

The cigar post was a reference to the A- team! Which to be fair younger people might not get. However, it was a response to the Supreme Court ruling. are you saying you wish woman did not mean adult human female in the law? What word are we going to give this group of people then?

CarobBean72 · 19/08/2025 22:13

Bloozie · 18/08/2025 09:49

She’s a divisive social media provocateur, and whether it’s an issue I largely agree with - like hers - or people like Andrew Tate or Katie Hopkins, anyone who is terminally online hunting down things to be offended by and posting provocative statements or photos, I find a bit pathetic.

Yes: she spends ALL her time on social
media & absolutely none at all writing the 4 weighty tomes of the Strike series she’s published since 2020, setting up the charity Beira’s place, having oversight of the Hogwarts game development & the forthcoming Netflix series, being a wife & mother & occasionally hanging out on her massive yacht.

CurlewKate · 19/08/2025 22:01

MyNameIsX · 19/08/2025 19:55

With the greatest respect to the OP - despite proclamations of acting in good faith etc., I for one am not buying it.

To start a thread asserting that if one does not agree with a flawed premise, they should not bother posting, is entirely cynical.

Leopards & spots comes to mind.

Fair enough. You are completely wrong about me, but hey ho!

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CarobBean72 · 19/08/2025 21:58

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:39

Okay. You don’t need to be, because I hold my beliefs and you hold yours. For what it’s worth, I don’t know where I sit on the entire trans thing but I think I lean more towards the views held on this board. I just find it sad when anyone with great wealth becomes like this.

You’re entitled to your own opinion, of course.

But not to your own facts.

When the facts contradict your opinions, you show us all what your opinions are worth.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 21:07

Here’s bra man again, this time continuing to attack the Polari prize. They wanted it gone and now it has gone they’re still bullying them. You cannot ever appease these people, that’s why you should simply ignore them and refuse to bow to their threats.

This thread is specifically for people who think JK Rowling is awful so..
LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 19/08/2025 20:48

Merrymouse · 19/08/2025 17:39

It’s not just that he thinks that women talk about their bras all the time - he thinks they also tweet about it…?

If he is right I can only conclude that I am not a woman.

Me neither, I don’t talk about bras, I don’t watch Love Island and I don’t call my friends ‘the girls’. Maybe I am a man after all.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 19/08/2025 20:43

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:33

She could be addressing things like child poverty, she could be helping people like Marcus rashford did. I just find it all quite sad that the elite in this country focus on the divisive rhetoric rather than actually trying to improve things.

£200m?

What £200m??

Katasaurus · 19/08/2025 20:30

McSilkson · 19/08/2025 19:57

I broadly agree with JKR on trans issues, admire her incredible rags to riches story, and love Harry Potter wholeheartedly.

However, I think she has allowed "Twitter" to poison her significantly. That place tends to do that to people, and I think public figures would do best to avoid it. I can understand why she would be angry about the abuse she's received, but her posting has become increasingly obsessive, petty and/or spiteful, and it's just really not a good look. I find it quite embarrassing, to be honest. The gloating cigar photo was cringeworthy and (ironically?) lived down to her enemies' portrait of her. I wish she would get off Twitter ASAP, and stick to publishing well-reasoned and thoughtful essays via her website, as she started out on this issue. I think she really needs to take a step back at this point.

But it's not just on Twitter, is it? She is constantly defamed and denigrated all over social media, not to mention the real-life death threats and the extraordinary and unashamed hatred posted on placards at 'trans rights' rallies. People who have never read a word of her well-reasoned and thoughtful essay on transgender stuff are consumed with hatred for her. Never has someone been so vilified for publicly expressing the view that people should be free to live their best lives but shouldn't encroach on the rights of women.
At least on Twitter there are many who aren't afraid to express their love and support for her and maybe that's why she stays there, bringing strength and joy to so many of us who've endured the same vilification for the same reason - just on a smaller scale. What seems obsessive, petty, or spiteful to you, comes across as incredible tenacity and humour to many of us.
At the end of the day, she's only human, yet unlike those who've chosen to take offence at her refusal to be cowed by relentless bullying, she has never once publicly wished harm on her detractors.
Long may she continue inspiring those of us who need her example to keep fighting.

TheKeatingFive · 19/08/2025 20:10

McSilkson · 19/08/2025 19:57

I broadly agree with JKR on trans issues, admire her incredible rags to riches story, and love Harry Potter wholeheartedly.

However, I think she has allowed "Twitter" to poison her significantly. That place tends to do that to people, and I think public figures would do best to avoid it. I can understand why she would be angry about the abuse she's received, but her posting has become increasingly obsessive, petty and/or spiteful, and it's just really not a good look. I find it quite embarrassing, to be honest. The gloating cigar photo was cringeworthy and (ironically?) lived down to her enemies' portrait of her. I wish she would get off Twitter ASAP, and stick to publishing well-reasoned and thoughtful essays via her website, as she started out on this issue. I think she really needs to take a step back at this point.

increasingly obsessive, petty and/or spiteful

Can you give some examples of this?

McSilkson · 19/08/2025 19:57

I broadly agree with JKR on trans issues, admire her incredible rags to riches story, and love Harry Potter wholeheartedly.

However, I think she has allowed "Twitter" to poison her significantly. That place tends to do that to people, and I think public figures would do best to avoid it. I can understand why she would be angry about the abuse she's received, but her posting has become increasingly obsessive, petty and/or spiteful, and it's just really not a good look. I find it quite embarrassing, to be honest. The gloating cigar photo was cringeworthy and (ironically?) lived down to her enemies' portrait of her. I wish she would get off Twitter ASAP, and stick to publishing well-reasoned and thoughtful essays via her website, as she started out on this issue. I think she really needs to take a step back at this point.

MyNameIsX · 19/08/2025 19:55

With the greatest respect to the OP - despite proclamations of acting in good faith etc., I for one am not buying it.

To start a thread asserting that if one does not agree with a flawed premise, they should not bother posting, is entirely cynical.

Leopards & spots comes to mind.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 19/08/2025 19:40

She's a rich and powerful woman who gives zero fucks, and people don't like that because women 'aren't supposed' to be rich, powerful and independent.

That is basically it, as far as I can see.

CurlewKate · 19/08/2025 19:39

Shortshriftandlethal · 19/08/2025 19:18

The communication of that purpose was poor, and also misplaced. This forum is not where you would expect to find a gathering of Rowling 'phobes' is it?

Well, it’s where I thought I might find a few reasonably thoughtful ones who are prepared to engage….

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Shortshriftandlethal · 19/08/2025 19:18

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 19/08/2025 17:13

I don't think the OP is ignorant of it. The OP doesn't understand what people think JKR has done wrong and was hoping that some people who hate her could explain why.

The communication of that purpose was poor, and also misplaced. This forum is not where you would expect to find a gathering of Rowling 'phobes' is it?

Shortshriftandlethal · 19/08/2025 19:14

CurlewKate · 19/08/2025 17:07

I’m not ignorant of that. I was assuming there must be more.

To be honest I think your thread starter was a bit 'mangled' and maybe unintentionally provocative and it also came across as being uncertain of its purpose. It semed to alienate most who post on this forum. It was as if you were uncertain of your audience. The people who might take major issue with JK Rowling are not the natural demographic of this forum, and those that are the natural demographic you requested that they didn't post.

borntobequiet · 19/08/2025 19:09

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itsachickeninnit · 19/08/2025 19:08

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:45

Yet she spends all her time on social media dividing society 🤷🏼‍♀️ it’s clear this thread wasn’t started in good faith asking for actual contributions, so I’m out

How do you know how much time she spends on social media? I go on Twitter once a day for about five minutes, the rest of my day is spent doing a wide variety of things. What makes you think she sits all day staring at social media?

borntobequiet · 19/08/2025 19:08

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 18:21

Aiden Comerford AT aidenctweets
On Mumsnet, the social media forum where "gender critical" women discuss things, there are over 2500 threads of public discussions about bras

Oh dear.

He thinks this is an argument.

How many threads on domestic abuse, mortgages and awful MILs?

Well I never. It’s the same for all of them.
But we all know the MN advanced search is rubbish.

BellissimoGecko · 19/08/2025 19:02

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:28

I don’t think she’s as awful as a lot of people seem to.

I just think it’s kind of sad. She has so much money, and she spends all her time on such a minuscule issue compared to what the country is facing. She could do so much good for the nation, and she won’t.

You are kidding, aren’t you? You think women’s rights is a minority, fringe issue??

Rowling has set up Beira’s Place to support women who have been sexually assaulted. She has funded a centre for multiple sclerosis research. She has funded women to escape from Afghanistan. She funded Lumos 20 years ago, and Volant.

Read more here: https://www.thetimes.com/sunday-times-rich-list/feature/article/jk-rowling-interview-2025-philanthropy-wk6hhcfc0

JK Rowling: ‘Nobody who hasn’t been poor can understand what it means’

The author, ranked 168 on The Sunday Times Rich List, opens up about her childhood, life on benefits and the pitfalls of philanthropy

https://www.thetimes.com/sunday-times-rich-list/feature/article/jk-rowling-interview-2025-philanthropy-wk6hhcfc0

PestoHoliday · 19/08/2025 18:41

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 19/08/2025 18:24

@PestoHoliday hope this works

Sodding hell. Fashion, makeup, Love Island and coming out for a coffee "with the girls". (I could make some obvious personal comments about several of those stereotypes and how they do or don't apply to Willoughby, but I am trying to rise above that)

I fail on fashion, make-up and Love Island for a start. And I never ever go for coffee "with the girls", I go for coffee with my friends. Two of them this morning, as it happens. But we aren't "the girls", ffs.

I don't think you can look at JKR's amazing red carpet outfits and not realise she has "fashion" locked down; she looks superb. I have no idea her feelings about makeup or exploitative reality TV, nor do care. I'd have given my eye teeth to win the meal out with her because she seems a bloody good laugh.

But none of that makes her "typical" of the British woman. She isn't, she is exemplary, not the norm.

As for what she has in common with British women... I think being both British and a woman helps, and Willoughby stumbles on that second hurdle.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 19/08/2025 18:26

In the object of fairness I should point out it coffee with the girls rather than cocktails.

But seeing as I don't do that either, I still fail the woman test 😭.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 19/08/2025 18:24

@PestoHoliday hope this works

https://x.com/OkayBiology/status/1946964025436221944

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 18:21

Aiden Comerford AT aidenctweets
On Mumsnet, the social media forum where "gender critical" women discuss things, there are over 2500 threads of public discussions about bras

Oh dear.

He thinks this is an argument.

How many threads on domestic abuse, mortgages and awful MILs?

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 19/08/2025 18:19

RedToothBrush · 19/08/2025 18:15

I am here for the old skool internet pwning like this.

I love trolls being dealt with appropriately. The other person who is this good is James Blunt. (And no I don't like his records)

It's glorious.

This will always be one of my favourites.

James blunt is also epic at it. Hope he published a book of his troll responses one day.

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