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This thread is specifically for people who think JK Rowling is awful so..

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CurlewKate · 18/08/2025 05:44

If you don't think she is please don’t post. Please can you tell me specifically what she has said or done that is so bad. I promise that I will listen and not argue. If you could include links that would be great. If your inclination is to assume that I’m posting in bad faith and any reasonably well informed person must be stupid or bigoted not to know, then please just let the thread die.

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BerryTwister · 18/08/2025 09:01

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:33

She could be addressing things like child poverty, she could be helping people like Marcus rashford did. I just find it all quite sad that the elite in this country focus on the divisive rhetoric rather than actually trying to improve things.

@ThatCyanSheep she has given about £200,000,000 to different charities over the years. You may not like what she says, but you can’t deny her philanthropy.

theilltemperedmaggotintheheartofthelaw · 18/08/2025 08:59

Rowling tweeted support for Maya Forstater, the expression of whose views constitute harassment and victimisation of transwomen and discrimination against them.

Rowling spoke out against a Devex article for using the phrase "people who menstruate" instead of "women". She stated that denying the reality of biological sex erases the experiences of women worldwide and eliminates the possibility of same-sex attraction. Harassment etc, as above.

Rowling published an essay on her personal website in 2020 in which she revealed that she was a survivor of domestic abuse and sexual assault, and stated that "When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he's a woman...then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside". This conflates TW with male predators.

Rowling argues that adults are promoting an ideology that is harmful to children, and claims the term cisgender is "ideological language signifying belief in the unfalsifiable concept of gender identity." Thus denying the existence of trans people and fulminating against healthcare for them.

She is a hypocrite who claims that her beliefs arise out of a sincere concern for transgender people, and in particular, young transgender men.

Rowling opposes legislation to advance gender self-recognition and enable transition without a medical diagnosis.

She also voiced opposition to the Scottish Gender Recognition Reform Bill, aimed at allowing transgender people to change their legal gender more easily and subsequently she donated £70,000 to the legal challenge brought by For Women Scotland against the Scottish Ministers in the UK Supreme Court, which, on 16 April 2025, ruled that the legal definition of a woman in the UK Equality Act 2010 is based on biological sex.

In response to Edinburgh's rape crisis centre being run by a trans woman, Rowling established a sexual assault crisis centre, Beira's Place in December 2022 that excludes trans women.

In response to a fan praising this decision, Rowling tweeted "Merry Terfmas".

Rowling has also expressed her opposition to the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act 2021, and when this went into effect in April 2024, she deliberately misgendered several transgender women to challenge the new law.

TLDR

She doesn't believe that humans can change sex.

ApplesinmyPocket · 18/08/2025 08:58

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:33

She could be addressing things like child poverty, she could be helping people like Marcus rashford did. I just find it all quite sad that the elite in this country focus on the divisive rhetoric rather than actually trying to improve things.

Could you at least address this, Cat, even if you don't come back to post, but for your own sake look into the VAST amounts of money she has given away to charities, including Lumos which she FOUNDED, and was specifically set up to help disadvantaged children?

It's alarming to see someone make such a sweeping WRONG statement without even having checked the facts. For your own sake I'd think you'd want to know, so you don't make such an idiot of yourself again?

Helleofabore · 18/08/2025 08:58

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:43

I never said she was embarrassing. Other people have labelled me as that.

I saw a really good post on here a few weeks ago about how there are much, much more pressing issues facing us. Our NHS being stripped, children living in poverty, the cost of living crisis. Things like trans people, the “boat people” etc are used by politicians as a diversion tactic to hide that they’re not doing anything to address the actual issues.

And did you think maybe that it is arrogant of others to tell people what issues they should be focusing their attention on?

Just because you and some other people believe that people’s attentions should be focused on issues you believe are the most important, doesn’t give the right to shame others for not putting their focus there, or from not just putting their focus on the political aims that you value more.

You do you. And if you don’t believe the government is spending the right amount of effort on some issues, I really do encourage you to write to ministers and MPs. And make sure you vote for every election you are eligible for and vote according to your political aims in the future, although I would hope you already do these things.

toastedbreadcrumbs · 18/08/2025 08:54

My only problem with JK Rowling is that she hasn't defended Graham Linehan, until she came along he was the biggest celebrity in this fight and the TRAs took his career, wife and family away from him.

I think she should show him the respect he deserves.

Venalopolos · 18/08/2025 08:52

Everyone is rightly defending JKR against blatant misinformation - but it’s derailing the OP’s original question which I’m also interested in hearing the answer to.

So far, we’ve got people don’t like her as she doesn’t come across as down to earth (fair enough I supposed) and that she doesn’t shout enough about the causes she gives millions of pounds to (weird criticism as they’re not unheard of causes so don’t really need attention drawing to them), and instead she uses her privileged position to talk about things a lot of us are scared to speak publicly on, a topic which is intrinsically linked with the safety of women and children, a cause that JKR feels passionately about and financially supports in many different ways - including using a voice on social media, but this is too divisive a topic and she should only talk about things that we all agree is bad (and infringing women’s rights is a good thing for some people so she shouldn’t opine on it).

Any other reason why we should boycott her as the devil incarnate?

Viviennemary · 18/08/2025 08:50

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:39

Okay. You don’t need to be, because I hold my beliefs and you hold yours. For what it’s worth, I don’t know where I sit on the entire trans thing but I think I lean more towards the views held on this board. I just find it sad when anyone with great wealth becomes like this.

Exactly. Just because somebody doesn't agree with you there is no need to act superior. J K Rowling is very divisive. She has managed to fall out with the main actors the Harry Potter films. I've got got friends whose views I don't agree with and they don't agree with mine.

Igneococcus · 18/08/2025 08:49

Viviennemary · 18/08/2025 08:32

I will bite. I dont like her because she comes across as she thinks her opinions are worth more because she is rich and a successful author. Compare her tosomebody like Val Mcdermid who comes over as a really down to earth and nice person. . That hasn't got an inflated ego because of success.

Ah yes, Val McDermid, Nicola Sturgeon's bestest buddy who can't bring herself to stand up for other lesbians, if these lesbians don't believe in genderwoo, that Val?

Arsed · 18/08/2025 08:48

Viviennemary · 18/08/2025 08:32

I will bite. I dont like her because she comes across as she thinks her opinions are worth more because she is rich and a successful author. Compare her tosomebody like Val Mcdermid who comes over as a really down to earth and nice person. . That hasn't got an inflated ego because of success.

I don’t think she comes across like this at all.

She uses the fact that she’s insanely rich to enable to her speak the truth say things that others can’t because she’s immune from being cancelled or sacked!

OldCrone · 18/08/2025 08:48

OldCrone · 18/08/2025 08:43

You seem very uninformed about all the good work she's been doing for decades.

This is a charity she set up in 2004 to help children.

https://www.wearelumos.org/who-we-are/our-story/

And this is a support service she runs for women and girls who have experienced sexual assault. She funds this out of her own money.

https://beirasplace.org.uk/

Homepage

Beira’s Place: Edinburgh Sexual Assault Support Centre

Sexual violence support service for women across Edinburgh and the Lothians, offering practical and emotional help to women in a safe and supportive environment.

https://beirasplace.org.uk

Maaate · 18/08/2025 08:47

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:45

Yet she spends all her time on social media dividing society 🤷🏼‍♀️ it’s clear this thread wasn’t started in good faith asking for actual contributions, so I’m out

Lol, even when it's demonstrated how wrong you were you have to swivel to something else to slate her about.

Something else that's factually wrong btw 🤡

ShesTheAlbatross · 18/08/2025 08:47

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:33

She could be addressing things like child poverty, she could be helping people like Marcus rashford did. I just find it all quite sad that the elite in this country focus on the divisive rhetoric rather than actually trying to improve things.

Helping people like Rashford did?

She donated £15.3m to establish a clinic at the university of Edinburgh to look into neurological conditions like MS. It’s named after her mother.

All global royalties for The Cuckoo’s Calling were donated to The Army Benevolent Fund.

She set up the charity Lumos, giving about £60m.

So I think you can disagree with her views on some things. But she has given a lot to charity. Forbes estimated about £200m in donations across various charities.

mardirousse · 18/08/2025 08:46

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:33

She could be addressing things like child poverty, she could be helping people like Marcus rashford did. I just find it all quite sad that the elite in this country focus on the divisive rhetoric rather than actually trying to improve things.

How much do you need her to do for child poverty?
She set up a charity to combat it.
Although maybe her support of victims of sexual abuse and domestic violence cancel it out.

"Based on her earnings and diverse revenue streams, Rowling’s net worth could be considerably higher, were it not for her commitment to philanthropy. Forbes estimates she has donated more than $250 million in the past 20 years, primarily to three causes: Lumos, which has helped more than 280,000 abandoned children in orphanages in Romania, Haiti, Colombia and Ukraine; Volant, which supports victims of sexual abuse and domestic violence as well as at-risk children in Scotland; and the Anne Rowling Regenerative Neurology Clinic, which treats patients with neurological conditions such as MS, the disease that took her mother’s life when Rowling was just 25."
From J.K. Rowling Is A Billionaire—Again https://share.google/3FrY5d8hZ22xMxGpA

Maaate · 18/08/2025 08:46

myplace · 18/08/2025 08:43

JKR is a truly great philanthropist. Lumos is just one of her amazing charities supporting children, @ThatCyanSheep .

Isn't she the only person to lose her place on the "rich list" because of the amount of money she gave to charities?

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:45

myplace · 18/08/2025 08:43

JKR is a truly great philanthropist. Lumos is just one of her amazing charities supporting children, @ThatCyanSheep .

Yet she spends all her time on social media dividing society 🤷🏼‍♀️ it’s clear this thread wasn’t started in good faith asking for actual contributions, so I’m out

illinivich · 18/08/2025 08:45

Helleofabore · 18/08/2025 08:25

Did you mean to start a thread that invited people to abuse JK Rowling? I understand that it is not your intention, but will be the logical outcome ?

Agree.

Also, you cant limit who posts on a thread. If you want a private chat, dont do it on a mn forum.

Ask for DMs or something.

Maaate · 18/08/2025 08:44

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:39

Okay. You don’t need to be, because I hold my beliefs and you hold yours. For what it’s worth, I don’t know where I sit on the entire trans thing but I think I lean more towards the views held on this board. I just find it sad when anyone with great wealth becomes like this.

Becomes like what?

Pays all her taxes in full in this country?
Puts millions into charities for children, abused and raped women, people with MS?

What an absolute cow.

myplace · 18/08/2025 08:43

JKR is a truly great philanthropist. Lumos is just one of her amazing charities supporting children, @ThatCyanSheep .

OldCrone · 18/08/2025 08:43

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:33

She could be addressing things like child poverty, she could be helping people like Marcus rashford did. I just find it all quite sad that the elite in this country focus on the divisive rhetoric rather than actually trying to improve things.

You seem very uninformed about all the good work she's been doing for decades.

This is a charity she set up in 2004 to help children.

https://www.wearelumos.org/who-we-are/our-story/

Our story

We have been working to end the systematic institutionalisation of children since 2005.

https://www.wearelumos.org/who-we-are/our-story/

CaptainSevenofNine · 18/08/2025 08:43

I hate that I’m not JKR. Does that count?

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:43

heldinadream · 18/08/2025 08:41

Becomes like what?
Passionate about truth and justice and safety for women? Not really embarrassing as far as I can see, but an explanation of what's embarrassing about it would be enlightening, so please provide one.

I never said she was embarrassing. Other people have labelled me as that.

I saw a really good post on here a few weeks ago about how there are much, much more pressing issues facing us. Our NHS being stripped, children living in poverty, the cost of living crisis. Things like trans people, the “boat people” etc are used by politicians as a diversion tactic to hide that they’re not doing anything to address the actual issues.

heldinadream · 18/08/2025 08:41

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:39

Okay. You don’t need to be, because I hold my beliefs and you hold yours. For what it’s worth, I don’t know where I sit on the entire trans thing but I think I lean more towards the views held on this board. I just find it sad when anyone with great wealth becomes like this.

Becomes like what?
Passionate about truth and justice and safety for women? Not really embarrassing as far as I can see, but an explanation of what's embarrassing about it would be enlightening, so please provide one.

Maaate · 18/08/2025 08:41

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:33

She could be addressing things like child poverty, she could be helping people like Marcus rashford did. I just find it all quite sad that the elite in this country focus on the divisive rhetoric rather than actually trying to improve things.

Wow.

A quick Google would have saved you embarrassing yourself like this.

Helleofabore · 18/08/2025 08:41

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:39

Okay. You don’t need to be, because I hold my beliefs and you hold yours. For what it’s worth, I don’t know where I sit on the entire trans thing but I think I lean more towards the views held on this board. I just find it sad when anyone with great wealth becomes like this.

I really suggest you read more deeply about her charities and what other charities she contributes financially to.

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:39

HermioneWeasley · 18/08/2025 08:37

I’m embarrassed for you

Okay. You don’t need to be, because I hold my beliefs and you hold yours. For what it’s worth, I don’t know where I sit on the entire trans thing but I think I lean more towards the views held on this board. I just find it sad when anyone with great wealth becomes like this.

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