This thread is specifically for people who think JK Rowling is awful so..

Her charity work is great and no woman should have to face any sort of abuse but she takes get pleasure in attacking mocking and marginalizing one of the most victimised groups in society. I am all for womans rights but this does not mean trans people should be protected as well. But according to her you only deserve support of you were born a woman. It's just plain wrong. If I murder someone but help out my elderly neighbours this does not cancel out the wrong that I have commited and it's the same in this case

Maybe I should have been clearer that 1) and 2) in my post are both heterosexual women.

And all three of them have given birth to children.

Well...
You know what hapoened to the Messiah?

JKRowling could be the actual next messiah and she STILL would be 'getting it wrong' and not 'morally virtueous enough' for some of these people.

They just want to destroy her. And yet its supposedly her who is hateful.

And we are all supposed to not see this and pretend its not sexism.

If you don't think she is please don’t post. Please can you tell me specifically what she has said or done that is so bad. I promise that I will listen and not argue. If you could include links that would be great. If your inclination is to assume that I’m posting in bad faith and any reasonably well informed person must be stupid or bigoted not to know, then please just let the thread die.

Deleted it days later. After the damage was done. And didn't bother posting an apology or correction. Just quietly deleted it.

I'm not saying she should be burnt FFS. Just that all of these "we're just protecting women" speeches aren't about protecting women. They don't want to protect women who may not agree with them. They don't want to protect women who don't tick their boxes.

And she deleted it when she realised she was wrong, yes?

But by all means, let's burn this witch. Every woman getting challenged in the toilet clearly comes back to this specific action.

I mean, jeez. 🫠

What is your message to the men who infiltrated women's spaces that didn't belong to them, continue to do so, thus creating a climate where women can't be sure if their spaces are single sex or not?

Or are you blaming these men's actions on JKR too?

She retweeted someone claiming someone was trans, with their name, a link to their linkedin, and a photo of the person saying "you can see the five oclock shadow" (you couldn't. It was just a black and white photo). She has an enormous following, and with that comes the responsibility to double check that you're not putting someone at risk with your tweets.

If you can't see why that is, frankly, dangerous and the total opposite of 'protecting women', then I despair.

She would only delete anything if she thought she’d got it wrong.

So you think this is JKR's fault because she retweeted and then deleted something?

Dear god in heaven, wtf is wrong with you?

Not a word about the men who created this climate off suspicion by infiltrating women's spaces in the first place, I note.

But why blame the men actually responsible when can burn the witch instead I guess? Much more satisfying. 🙄

As I said, JKR was involved with retweeting it. (She did delete them after a few days). It is JKR who is giving people the supposed freedom to abuse who ever they like (not JKR alone).

That's a total non sequitur.

What has this got to do with JKR?

You’ve been dining out on this for quite a while now.

So, the fact that Graham Linehan tried to ruin a friends life is down to trans women, not him?

Riiight.

1. A relative. A fair butch lesbian. Not even particularly tall. Wore a dress once for a night out. A group got her thrown out of a nightclub because she couldn't prove she was female and this group decided she shouldn't be using the women's toilets.

Good heavens, how many butch lesbians ARE there in the population?
And where were they all in my clubbing days??

They seem to be popping up everywhere now, and all of them have straight friends who post on MN, and all of them get not only challenged, but actually chased out of women's toilets.
I didn't know there were enough butch lesbians to go around!

So, the fact that Graham Linehan tried to ruin a friends life is down to trans women, not him?

Riiight.

Don’t believe the nightclub story….at all.

Either this sort of thing was happening before trans became a thing (though I doubt it), in which case it’s some women being nasty, or it only started after trans became a thing, in which case it’s down to men self identifying into women’s spaces and spooking women. That’s if it’s really happening at all; it may be, IDK.

Either way it’s not the fault of JKR, or sex realistic beliefs women generally.

Funny, also, that these It’s True It Happened To A Friend stories are always about ‘butch lesbians’, as if no heterosexual woman has ever been challenged in the women’s toilets, or been addressed as ‘Sir’, or in any other way mis-identified. Only ever lesbians, hmm?

When the sarcasm?
Last August!
The context might explain why the sarcasm.

I agree. All the lesbians I know were supremely delighted by the Supreme Court ruling. Including all the 'butch' ones. Now, finally, they can have lesbian-only events/apps free of bepenised people. And they all continue to be delighted by it, though cross with its bumpy, delayed-in-some-areas rollout.

Very, very occasionally, a woman (of any sexual orientation) may appear quite masculine to another woman. And she might get challenged with a "This is the ladies!?" for example.

But women - even very tall ones with very short hair, no makeup and wearing androgynous clothing - will still have a woman's voice, move like a woman and react to a challenge like a woman.

My lesbian friends don't know of any incidences where a quick (slightly embarrassing) chat hasn't resolved this confusion very quickly. And any claims to the contrary are misinformed nonsense on stilts.