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This thread is specifically for people who think JK Rowling is awful so..

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CurlewKate · 18/08/2025 05:44

If you don't think she is please don’t post. Please can you tell me specifically what she has said or done that is so bad. I promise that I will listen and not argue. If you could include links that would be great. If your inclination is to assume that I’m posting in bad faith and any reasonably well informed person must be stupid or bigoted not to know, then please just let the thread die.

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Espressosummer · 18/08/2025 09:35

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:39

Okay. You don’t need to be, because I hold my beliefs and you hold yours. For what it’s worth, I don’t know where I sit on the entire trans thing but I think I lean more towards the views held on this board. I just find it sad when anyone with great wealth becomes like this.

She helped to stop our justice system putting rapists in women's prisons. The fact you consider that a miniscule issue says a lot more about you than it does about JK Rowling

sanluca · 18/08/2025 09:35

Helleofabore · 18/08/2025 09:24

Ahhh. So yes. She should just turn the other cheek so to speak.

She should allow male people who constantly abuse her on social media to continue to do that, because that is the bar of standard of behaviour you feel she, personally, she aspire to. Just ignore the abuse, and it will go away? Right?

Except she did ignore the abuse, it didn’t go away.

Or is it that she should just ignore the abuse regardless because she should just absorb all of it? Is this the expectation for all abused people then? Or just her?

She ignored the abuse so they started posting porn on threads on x that were meant for children to show their drawings (parents uploading them of course as children can't have x accounts)

Zapx · 18/08/2025 09:34

TheLudditesWereRight · 18/08/2025 09:05

I admire her charity work but dislike her social media presence because I think people with huge reach and influence who engage in petty smackdowns of people they disagree with is not a good look. Does she ever post about anything else?

She often posts about women in Iran and Afghanistan, and she personally helped some women escape Afghanistan when the Taliban took over again.

crumpet · 18/08/2025 09:34

Viviennemary · 18/08/2025 08:50

Exactly. Just because somebody doesn't agree with you there is no need to act superior. J K Rowling is very divisive. She has managed to fall out with the main actors the Harry Potter films. I've got got friends whose views I don't agree with and they don't agree with mine.

How did she fall out with them? What happened?

Helleofabore · 18/08/2025 09:33

theilltemperedmaggotintheheartofthelaw · 18/08/2025 09:17

I think that her getting a bit salty or triumphalist does play into TRAs' hands. But, fuck it, I enjoy it. Let others be Patient Griselda.

See, this is the thing though. I look at it with the view that she, like everyone, should not have to accept abuse. I think that the same standards of behaviour should be applied to her as to anyone who is only a private citizen.

I don’t consider that her being an author should obligate her to act as if she is a vessel for absorbing abuse.

toastedbreadcrumbs · 18/08/2025 09:33

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/08/2025 09:25

She doesn’t owe him anything, she gets to choose who she interacts with whether she agrees with them or not.

He gave up everything he had to protect women, a little goodwill from JKR is only fair.

Mischance · 18/08/2025 09:32

Viviennemary · 18/08/2025 08:32

I will bite. I dont like her because she comes across as she thinks her opinions are worth more because she is rich and a successful author. Compare her tosomebody like Val Mcdermid who comes over as a really down to earth and nice person. . That hasn't got an inflated ego because of success.

The issue is OP trying to understand the content of her views, not the state of her ego.

TheLudditesWereRight · 18/08/2025 09:32

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/08/2025 09:23

Fighting for the rights of half of all the people on the planet tends to make people a bit obsessive, as does wanting to protect children from a nonsensical, harmful ideology.

I don’t know if you know much about the history of women’s rights, but they are always under threat, and some of us would rather fight to hold onto them, than blithely hand them over to men pretending to be women.

Doing it in an offputting communicative style is counter-productive.

CurlewKate · 18/08/2025 09:32

Helleofabore · 18/08/2025 08:36

But do you understand that you have started a thread inviting only views from those who are likely inclined to abuse her? Ie. no balancing posts because you stated you don’t want to those who don’t believe she is ‘awful’ to post.

As I said it is probably not your intention, but that is what you are inviting with your OP.

The reason I asked that question is that I am fully aware of all the philanthropy, and I know what is said about her. What I want is some actual quotations, of her actual words which will explain the dislike people have for her. So far nobody has quoted anything. Obviously I can’t stop anyone posting anything they want to! So far, I think the only quotation is her saying “Merry Terfmas” which is a bit juvenile, but surely not enough to provoke death threats?

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sanluca · 18/08/2025 09:32

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:43

I never said she was embarrassing. Other people have labelled me as that.

I saw a really good post on here a few weeks ago about how there are much, much more pressing issues facing us. Our NHS being stripped, children living in poverty, the cost of living crisis. Things like trans people, the “boat people” etc are used by politicians as a diversion tactic to hide that they’re not doing anything to address the actual issues.

Wearelumos.org

How many billionaires do you know of that setup and fund charities such as this? So many children in poverty, JK helps and you still think it is not enough

echt · 18/08/2025 09:32

She's bloody marvellous. More power to her elbow.

theilltemperedmaggotintheheartofthelaw · 18/08/2025 09:31

Gofaster2023 · 18/08/2025 09:18

I don't think she is awful at all. I think she is clever, witty and can be very subtle. I love her books, she has used her money to rescue an area of natural beauty and environmental importance near me. I just dont have to agree with every thing she does. She probably wouldn't like me putting milk in with the tea bag before adding the water. You dont have to hate someone to dislike something that they do.

putting milk in with the tea bag before adding the water

😱

MrsSkylerWhite · 18/08/2025 09:31

I don’t think she’s awful but I really hate that photo of her smoking a cigar and drinking, presumably whisky or similar.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/08/2025 09:30

DrBlackbird · 18/08/2025 09:19

This thread seemed to be started in good faith and the op merely asked for reasons why people don’t like her. It’s disappointing that some responses are mocking posters who don’t know of JKRs philanthropy. Yes, some posters will hate JKR because she supports women’s rights but others had reasons that can be refuted with measured facts.

The posters who complained she doesn’t do enough to help the country, seem to forget she isn’t a politician so it isn’t her job, but she does give away a massive amount to causes that are important to her. It isn’t mocking to point something out to people who are labouring under a misapprehension.

Miriabelle · 18/08/2025 09:30

She has so much money, and she spends all her time on such a minuscule issue compared to what the country is facing. She could do so much good for the nation, and she won’t.

@ThatCyanSheep Do you mean good like funding a huge charity for orphaned children and tackling child poverty, giving away huge amounts of money to other charities, funding neurological research into degenerative brain conditions plus an entire neurology clinic, funding women’s domestic violence shelters, paying large amounts of money to fly out Afghan women and girls escaping the Taliban? That kind of good?

I can only think that you are just a bit ignorant about this, but it would be good if you could actually find out about it before making statements like the above.

https://www.annerowlingclinic.org/

https://www.wearelumos.org/

https://www.documentwomen.com/j-k-rowling-donates-substantial-amount-of-money-saves-lives-of-female-afghanistan-lawyers

Anne Rowling Regenerative Neurology Clinic | Advancing research, building hope.

https://www.annerowlingclinic.org

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/08/2025 09:29

I still have time for Glinner, but I wish he’d just give it a rest re JKR and other women.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/08/2025 09:28

theilltemperedmaggotintheheartofthelaw · 18/08/2025 09:17

I think that her getting a bit salty or triumphalist does play into TRAs' hands. But, fuck it, I enjoy it. Let others be Patient Griselda.

I have the exact same attitude. I think laughing at the excesses of the TRA movement is the best way to undermine it.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/08/2025 09:25

toastedbreadcrumbs · 18/08/2025 09:19

I'm not Graham, but you know that.

I take it that you don't agree she's deliberately ignoring him for some unknown reason?

It's starting to come across as cruel and intentional at this stage.

She doesn’t owe him anything, she gets to choose who she interacts with whether she agrees with them or not.

Helleofabore · 18/08/2025 09:24

TheLudditesWereRight · 18/08/2025 09:18

She could just block them. She has huge power on social media and I don't think she uses it well. She increasingly comes across as an obsessive crank. That's my opinion, feel free to disagree.

Ahhh. So yes. She should just turn the other cheek so to speak.

She should allow male people who constantly abuse her on social media to continue to do that, because that is the bar of standard of behaviour you feel she, personally, she aspire to. Just ignore the abuse, and it will go away? Right?

Except she did ignore the abuse, it didn’t go away.

Or is it that she should just ignore the abuse regardless because she should just absorb all of it? Is this the expectation for all abused people then? Or just her?

Viviennemary · 18/08/2025 09:24

PestoHoliday · 18/08/2025 09:21

You couldn't be more wrong about Val McDermid. I have rarely met a more arrogant person convinced of her own Rightness In All Things.

Oh well. Shame!

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/08/2025 09:23

TheLudditesWereRight · 18/08/2025 09:18

She could just block them. She has huge power on social media and I don't think she uses it well. She increasingly comes across as an obsessive crank. That's my opinion, feel free to disagree.

Fighting for the rights of half of all the people on the planet tends to make people a bit obsessive, as does wanting to protect children from a nonsensical, harmful ideology.

I don’t know if you know much about the history of women’s rights, but they are always under threat, and some of us would rather fight to hold onto them, than blithely hand them over to men pretending to be women.

PestoHoliday · 18/08/2025 09:21

Viviennemary · 18/08/2025 08:32

I will bite. I dont like her because she comes across as she thinks her opinions are worth more because she is rich and a successful author. Compare her tosomebody like Val Mcdermid who comes over as a really down to earth and nice person. . That hasn't got an inflated ego because of success.

You couldn't be more wrong about Val McDermid. I have rarely met a more arrogant person convinced of her own Rightness In All Things.

toastedbreadcrumbs · 18/08/2025 09:19

TinselAngel · 18/08/2025 09:12

She’s not your Mum, Graham.

I'm not Graham, but you know that.

I take it that you don't agree she's deliberately ignoring him for some unknown reason?

It's starting to come across as cruel and intentional at this stage.

DrBlackbird · 18/08/2025 09:19

This thread seemed to be started in good faith and the op merely asked for reasons why people don’t like her. It’s disappointing that some responses are mocking posters who don’t know of JKRs philanthropy. Yes, some posters will hate JKR because she supports women’s rights but others had reasons that can be refuted with measured facts.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/08/2025 09:19

Helleofabore · 18/08/2025 09:13

So, she should just ignore the people who target her with abuse and only take the high road in your opinion?

Should all women just respond to abuse in this way? Or just her?

Women are just expected to absorb it all didn’t you know? It’s not very feminine or nice or kind to defend ourselves against male aggression, especially when we could just be at home, behind the kitchen sink, preferably barefoot and pregnant.

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