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This thread is specifically for people who think JK Rowling is awful so..

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CurlewKate · 18/08/2025 05:44

If you don't think she is please don’t post. Please can you tell me specifically what she has said or done that is so bad. I promise that I will listen and not argue. If you could include links that would be great. If your inclination is to assume that I’m posting in bad faith and any reasonably well informed person must be stupid or bigoted not to know, then please just let the thread die.

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SternJoyousBeev2 · 18/08/2025 13:41

Bloozie · 18/08/2025 09:49

She’s a divisive social media provocateur, and whether it’s an issue I largely agree with - like hers - or people like Andrew Tate or Katie Hopkins, anyone who is terminally online hunting down things to be offended by and posting provocative statements or photos, I find a bit pathetic.

Don’t be silly.

justteanbiscuits · 18/08/2025 13:36

eatfigs · 18/08/2025 13:31

Thanks for the info. Are you sure JKR retweeted this? By searching on that tweet and the name, there's no mention of her doing so. Usually there'd be a reaction from transactivists for her making such an error.

Yes thank you. I am quite sure this happened.

But I'm thrilled that quizzing me on this is more important than a group of adults causing teenage girls to be bullied. Which was my point. You see it across all areas at the moment - "we're just protecting the women" but actually, they're not. They want to protect some women, but not all of them.

eatfigs · 18/08/2025 13:31

justteanbiscuits · 18/08/2025 13:20

Trying again with the image.

Thanks for the info. Are you sure JKR retweeted this? By searching on that tweet and the name, there's no mention of her doing so. Usually there'd be a reaction from transactivists for her making such an error.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 18/08/2025 13:29

Also, (and this is a hill I'm almost prepared to die on) - Quidditch makes NO SENSE. You go to all the effort with the bludgers etc and then the opposing team just have to get the Golden Snitch and suddenly it's game over. So what's the point of all the Quaffles? None! It's so stupid.

Oh my god, you really have spectacularly missed that that was the entire point! 🙈🙈🙈

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 18/08/2025 13:24

eatfigs · 18/08/2025 13:01

Searching on X for jkr "deleted" "retweeted" and rowling "deleted" "tweeted" along with several similar rewordings shows nothing like what @justteanbiscuits described.

Just people claiming that she deleted a load of tweets about Imane Khelif after being hit with a lawsuit (which is false) and that she deleted a retweet of Stephen King and deleted tweets praising him (which is true).

So I wonder, did this happen without anyone else noticing or am I searching for the wrong words to find any mention of it?

I could be wrong but I think she didn't delete anything and this is one of the TRAs bizarre untrue allegations against her.

justteanbiscuits · 18/08/2025 13:20

Trying again with the image.

This thread is specifically for people who think JK Rowling is awful so..
justteanbiscuits · 18/08/2025 13:18

This is one of the two tweets that JKR retweeted of Glinners. I haven't copied the rest of the tweet which includes her name etc. (It was a paper from a old job she had regarding self harm reduction in 'trans children) and included a photo.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 18/08/2025 13:17

TheLudditesWereRight · 18/08/2025 09:05

I admire her charity work but dislike her social media presence because I think people with huge reach and influence who engage in petty smackdowns of people they disagree with is not a good look. Does she ever post about anything else?

Yes. The plight of women in Afghanistan for example. HTH

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 18/08/2025 13:16

theilltemperedmaggotintheheartofthelaw · 18/08/2025 08:59

Rowling tweeted support for Maya Forstater, the expression of whose views constitute harassment and victimisation of transwomen and discrimination against them.

Rowling spoke out against a Devex article for using the phrase "people who menstruate" instead of "women". She stated that denying the reality of biological sex erases the experiences of women worldwide and eliminates the possibility of same-sex attraction. Harassment etc, as above.

Rowling published an essay on her personal website in 2020 in which she revealed that she was a survivor of domestic abuse and sexual assault, and stated that "When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he's a woman...then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside". This conflates TW with male predators.

Rowling argues that adults are promoting an ideology that is harmful to children, and claims the term cisgender is "ideological language signifying belief in the unfalsifiable concept of gender identity." Thus denying the existence of trans people and fulminating against healthcare for them.

She is a hypocrite who claims that her beliefs arise out of a sincere concern for transgender people, and in particular, young transgender men.

Rowling opposes legislation to advance gender self-recognition and enable transition without a medical diagnosis.

She also voiced opposition to the Scottish Gender Recognition Reform Bill, aimed at allowing transgender people to change their legal gender more easily and subsequently she donated £70,000 to the legal challenge brought by For Women Scotland against the Scottish Ministers in the UK Supreme Court, which, on 16 April 2025, ruled that the legal definition of a woman in the UK Equality Act 2010 is based on biological sex.

In response to Edinburgh's rape crisis centre being run by a trans woman, Rowling established a sexual assault crisis centre, Beira's Place in December 2022 that excludes trans women.

In response to a fan praising this decision, Rowling tweeted "Merry Terfmas".

Rowling has also expressed her opposition to the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act 2021, and when this went into effect in April 2024, she deliberately misgendered several transgender women to challenge the new law.

TLDR

She doesn't believe that humans can change sex.

Are these supposed to be bad things she's done?! 🤔

Setting up a rape crisis centre. What a baddie she is. /s

P.s. Maya won her case because her views and the expression of the are WORIADS. HTH

justteanbiscuits · 18/08/2025 13:08

eatfigs · 18/08/2025 12:31

So she didn't fact check something before retweeting and then deleted it soon after when she realised it was false? It's a mistake anyone could make. No need to despise her for it.

She could have apologised. She could have called out the others incorrectly mislabelling someone. She could have stopped kids bullying my friends children on the back of her tweet by actually saying something.

OverTheWater28 · 18/08/2025 13:06

ThatCyanSheep · 18/08/2025 08:33

She could be addressing things like child poverty, she could be helping people like Marcus rashford did. I just find it all quite sad that the elite in this country focus on the divisive rhetoric rather than actually trying to improve things.

She funds a women’s refuge…

eatfigs · 18/08/2025 13:01

Searching on X for jkr "deleted" "retweeted" and rowling "deleted" "tweeted" along with several similar rewordings shows nothing like what @justteanbiscuits described.

Just people claiming that she deleted a load of tweets about Imane Khelif after being hit with a lawsuit (which is false) and that she deleted a retweet of Stephen King and deleted tweets praising him (which is true).

So I wonder, did this happen without anyone else noticing or am I searching for the wrong words to find any mention of it?

CurlewKate · 18/08/2025 12:57

justteanbiscuits · 18/08/2025 12:16

OK, I should have said "I feel..." I apologise for that. But that is the feeling I get about them. Would they stop and fact check whether they were joining in to ruin someones life? Or would they see "Oh, that is a man pretending to be a woman because this man just told me so.." and take pleasure from sharing the images / videos / tweets?

I honestly don't care you don't believe me. I truly don't. Live in your bubble where Graham Linehan is a hero, and JK Rowling a God and dismiss everything else that is said as lies. Carry on a keyboard crusade while others actually go out and try and make meaningful change.

You could completely disabuse people of what you consider to be their erroneous view of JKR in one stroke simply by c&p a tweet (obviously redacting any information that might identify you). This is exactly the sort of thing I was hoping for when I started the thread.

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anyolddinosaur · 18/08/2025 12:55

@MarieDeGournay I recently bought most of the Strike series. They probably wont class as great literature, I dont actually care. I wanted stories that make me want to keep on reading. They do, I'd recommend them. You could, of course, get them from the library but I like books and intend to pass these on when I've read them.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 18/08/2025 12:54

justteanbiscuits · 18/08/2025 12:28

I'm not posting on MN for credibility. I was sharing an experience. Which you, and others, have chosen not to believe because I won't share the exact details. Which is your choice. I was simply pointing out that, like SO many claiming they're just protecting women, they're only interested in protecting the women that meet their criteria. JKR, and others, showed zero interest in protecting my friend and her children (including daughters) from harm.

To me. Either all women matter or none do. I will continue work to support all women - whether they agree with my opinions or not. I don't pick and choose.

Do you support JKR, or just "all women"?

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/08/2025 12:42

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/08/2025 12:35

If JKR had ever tweeted “I only care about women that I agree with” I’m sure more people would have remembered it. So it’s a loaded paraphrasing, at best.

I also suspect that my understanding of what a woman is in no way the same as that poster.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/08/2025 12:39

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 18/08/2025 12:32

God so much main character energy going on here. Start your own thread.

Quite.

Namelessnelly · 18/08/2025 12:37

Viviennemary · 18/08/2025 08:32

I will bite. I dont like her because she comes across as she thinks her opinions are worth more because she is rich and a successful author. Compare her tosomebody like Val Mcdermid who comes over as a really down to earth and nice person. . That hasn't got an inflated ego because of success.

So how many charities and rape crisis centres has Val funded? How many Afghan women did Val rescue?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/08/2025 12:35

If JKR had ever tweeted “I only care about women that I agree with” I’m sure more people would have remembered it. So it’s a loaded paraphrasing, at best.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/08/2025 12:32

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/08/2025 10:36

‘When I asked her, straight out, if she supported all women what ever their POV on the trans issue, she said no, she only supports the women who agree with her. Which is her right, but she says it so nastily.’

It would be lovely to see the proof of that, as surely if someone like her interacted with you you would take a screenshot. Because if not, it’s just hearsay.

I simply don’t believe that poster’s account of JKR tweeting that, and since they have neglected to provide any evidence, I have no reason to.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 18/08/2025 12:32

justteanbiscuits · 18/08/2025 12:28

I'm not posting on MN for credibility. I was sharing an experience. Which you, and others, have chosen not to believe because I won't share the exact details. Which is your choice. I was simply pointing out that, like SO many claiming they're just protecting women, they're only interested in protecting the women that meet their criteria. JKR, and others, showed zero interest in protecting my friend and her children (including daughters) from harm.

To me. Either all women matter or none do. I will continue work to support all women - whether they agree with my opinions or not. I don't pick and choose.

God so much main character energy going on here. Start your own thread.

eatfigs · 18/08/2025 12:31

So she didn't fact check something before retweeting and then deleted it soon after when she realised it was false? It's a mistake anyone could make. No need to despise her for it.

Menier · 18/08/2025 12:29

justteanbiscuits · 18/08/2025 11:55

Explain the irony please. I am missing something here.

I think you seem to be getting the irony now from your retractions on later posts but it’s because you yourself are making ( very dramatic) public assumptions about posters based on no actual evidence.
The behaviour that you display in your posts is the same as the behaviour that you describe as being disgusted by.

justteanbiscuits · 18/08/2025 12:28

Clarissaclaire · 18/08/2025 12:23

So, now you are assuming I live in a bubble, and you are assuming you know what I think about Lineham and Rowling. You are off the scale with your assumptions.
Go learn how to make substantiated cases about things, learn how to argue and debate properly.
As I said before, you have no credibility.

I'm not posting on MN for credibility. I was sharing an experience. Which you, and others, have chosen not to believe because I won't share the exact details. Which is your choice. I was simply pointing out that, like SO many claiming they're just protecting women, they're only interested in protecting the women that meet their criteria. JKR, and others, showed zero interest in protecting my friend and her children (including daughters) from harm.

To me. Either all women matter or none do. I will continue work to support all women - whether they agree with my opinions or not. I don't pick and choose.

justteanbiscuits · 18/08/2025 12:24

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/08/2025 12:18

You do know that I have absolutely no idea who you are? And I have absolutely no interest in finding out? You seem to have made up a whole scenario in your head about me and my motivations which is wholly bizarre. I am not responsible for whatever has happened to you or your friends or your friend’s children, on SM or anywhere else.

This thread is about JKR, whose stance on the rights of women and girls I support.

And I pointed out that JKR isn't always the angel she is made out to be. But you chose to say you don't believe me. You asked for proof, and I explained that would give away personal information about me I don't trust you with - having had private information shared on this platform before that I sent in a private message.

As I said to someone else. I don't really care if you don't believe me. But don't claim to be protecting women, or claim that JKR just wants to protect women, when actually she only wants to protect women who are in agreement with her.

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